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Old 01-11-2018, 04:44 PM   #1
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Default 5.56 AK Pattern... Galil Ace vs SLR 106?

So obvious difference in the price, but what is the thought?

I know I can get an ar for cheap but I prefer the AK pattern.

Already flush in the 7.62x39 world and looking to add something in 5.56 for ammo options.

Which would you take?
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Old 01-11-2018, 04:49 PM   #2
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I would take the SLR but the only problem is getting the mags for them.
The up side of Galil ace is they take AR mags.
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Old 01-11-2018, 05:07 PM   #3
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Their both very, very rugged, durable, and reliable.
The SLR is a bit lighter, which is nice, but the mags are at least $40 each, and not available from too many places, a deal breaker for some. (Get the excellent Polish Beryl for the SLR)
Of course the Ace's got AR-15 mags, super cheap, and everyone's got 'em. Big plus.
The Ace has that bolt hold open too, so you know when your run dry.
More mounting options on the Ace too.
Personally, I like the "look" of the SLR more than the Ace, though I think the Galil looks even better!
Come to think of it, I'd strongly suggest getting the original, real steel - Galil!
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Old 01-11-2018, 05:07 PM   #4
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ignoring cost, galil ace hands down
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Old 01-11-2018, 05:07 PM   #5
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Coming from someone who really loves the 106 rifles I really really want a 5.56 ACE in my life. It's a real military rifle used around the world, and was designed to be a real 5.56 rifle as opposed to the 106 being cobbled together with a bunch of different AK parts.

If you had the dosh to spend I'd just get the ACE. 6 106 mags in this market is going to run about 350, so you're almost there just between mags and rifle alone.
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Old 01-11-2018, 05:12 PM   #6
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Coming from someone who really loves the 106 rifles I really really want a 5.56 ACE in my life. It's a real military rifle used around the world, and was designed to be a real 5.56 rifle as opposed to the 106 being cobbled together with a bunch of different AK parts.

If you had the dosh to spend I'd just get the ACE. 6 106 mags in this market is going to run about 350, so you're almost there just between mags and rifle alone.
Only thing that concerns me is does the top cover hold zero if removed , put back on? I'm sure it would have to in order for foreign militaries to buy it...but haven't seen any actual tests
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Old 01-11-2018, 05:29 PM   #7
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Only thing that concerns me is does the top cover hold zero if removed , put back on? I'm sure it would have to in order for foreign militaries to buy it...but haven't seen any actual tests

I think I recall Vickers saying it's best for red dots and not magnified optics, as it's going to have some play to a degree. That's all I'd put on it anyway.
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Old 01-11-2018, 05:36 PM   #8
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"Only thing that concerns me is does the top cover hold zero if removed , put back on? I'm sure it would have to in order for foreign militaries to buy it...but haven't seen any actual tests"
Yes, absolutely, it does (hold zero).
And AK type top covers can be "adjusted" for tightness.
You can even mount a light optic, like the lighter ACOG's.

I too really love the 106, after getting the first 106F, I got three more, fantastic guns.

I guess, like indyguy333 said, "ignoring cost, galil ace hands down", the bolt hold open and mag cost/availability are real big pluses, but still, I like the 106 more.

"6 106 mags in this market is going to run about 350...."
Six Beryl mags will be $240, and they're excellent quality, milspec - actual military issue (unlike the circle 10 5.56), and they offer much faster mag changes than the Circle 10 mags. (I know $240 is not cheap)

Using my head, I'd say get the Ace. I guess it's a "better" gun.
Using my heart, I'd say get the 106. I just like it more.
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Old 01-11-2018, 09:24 PM   #9
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I own a 106 and the ACE in .308.

If I was choosing one to get into now I would get the ACE.

-More features
-Cheaper, easy to find mags
-Excellent IWI build quality

Even though I like the regular AK sights, if you like having peep sights then the ACE is for you.

So while the ACE rifle is more expensive out of the box it is about the same if not cheaper than if you were to do upgrades to a SLR with all the money you would drop on it to match the ACE if that is your thing.

Also for those concerned about the dust cover on the ACE for optics I would say it is a non-issue. Unlike the regular AK, the recoil spring latch to hold down the cover goes out much further making it harder to do with just your fingers. I had to use a flathead screwdriver to get it out of the way to remove it. To get it back on I had to use a rubber mallet to get the dust cover situated along with it being aligned with a slot on the front between the rail systems since it doesn't just snap back in like on a regular AK. It is an entirely different process. Those dust covers are rock solid.

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Old 01-11-2018, 09:41 PM   #10
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I own a 106 and the ACE in .308.
For .308 I went Zastava M77

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Old 01-12-2018, 10:52 AM   #12
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106 mag problem solved:

http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=315843
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Old 01-12-2018, 08:43 PM   #13
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Well given I am sitting on some 5.56 standard mags I went ahead and ordered up a Galil Ace!
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Old 01-12-2018, 09:10 PM   #15
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I woulda got a Norinco
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Old 01-13-2018, 08:56 AM   #16
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I went through the pros and cons of the same dilemma. Ultimately the jerks on this forum convinced me the CZ Bren was a better use of my money (it’s really nice).

Here was my logic prior to that.
The Ace is ~$400 more
You need 20 mags minimum (that’s my floor for rifles)
Ace mags can be had for about $8. I used $30 as my number for 556 AK mags.
$22 x 20 = $440
If you already have AR’s (I did) then the price gap goes away.

I had a chance to fire a 556 Ace. It’s the nicest AK type rifle I’ve ever fired. It’s heavier than a normal AK on a scale but I did not notice any big difference shooting it. I didn’t carry it around all day. As compares to the SLR, I have a 107FR. The Ace, in my mind, is superior in every way. Again as a reference point: if I could only keep one of my dozen or so semi auto rifles I would keep the 107 (it edges the Bren out because I’m better set up with mags and ammo).

All that said I’m buying two rifles in 2018. One will probably be a 5.56 AK but I’m going to look really hard for a Definitive Arms 556 VEPR before I buy anything else. The other will be the x39 Ace.

You’re not going to go wrong with either rifle, they’re both nice.
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Old 01-13-2018, 10:57 AM   #17
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We already know milled vs stamped by default here. But you also have AR-15 compatible mags vs having to get 5.56mm AK mags for the 106. That's unless you can get DA to make a AR-15 magwell conversion on the 106, and DA's owner is no fan of especially early SLR-106s.

Also, the Galil Ace can probably use any 1/2x28 muzzle devices, while the SLR-106 is 24mm unless you convert it to something else.

It depends on what you want it for, what modifications (if any) you want to make, and how much cash are you willing to part with. The Ace is more expensive to start out, but if you have a bunch of AR-15 mags, you're set with that instead of having to get a mag well conversion or part with money for the relatively rare AK 5.56 mags.
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Old 01-13-2018, 06:58 PM   #18
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"You need 20 mags minimum (that’s my floor for rifles)"
Agreed 100% - 20 mags at least - per each rifle owned.
(You may not be in a position to recover your used mags)

"You’re not going to go wrong with either rifle, they’re both nice."
Absolutely true!
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Old 01-15-2018, 01:33 AM   #19
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Well given I am sitting on some 5.56 standard mags I went ahead and ordered up a Galil Ace!
You made the correct move, congratulations.
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Old 01-20-2018, 09:31 AM   #20
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I woulda got a Norinco
I went with the Norinco BWK-92. A fine weapon. There is a lot of discussion on the various boards about magazine availability but I haven't had a problem bought a bunch off of fleebay and there are standard caps on gunjoker.
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Old 01-22-2018, 10:19 PM   #21
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Just got my ACE in and I am very pleased. This thing is a tank.
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