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Old 08-09-2018, 10:28 PM   #36
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Is the MBT considered to be as durable and reliable as a milspec trigger?
They are a vast improvement over "mil-spec" . Have a whole bunch of
7.62 OBRs at work that run them.
Very go to go. Side by side cant tell the difference between a 200.00 G/A and an MBT.
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They will take a while to get to you.
There's typically a wait unless you pay extra to expedite your name to the front of the list. Imagine how backed up they are now? I'd rather them take their time and do the good job they have been doing rather than rush these things out.
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Old 08-10-2018, 09:18 AM   #38
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Just got my ship notice on both of mine this AM.
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Old 08-10-2018, 11:26 AM   #39
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Same here on the LaRue
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Old 08-10-2018, 02:33 PM   #40
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Got mine this morning also
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mine will be here in a few days got my shipping notice this morning. Ordered on 7-22
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Old 08-13-2018, 11:56 PM   #42
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Somehow mine is taking a week to get from Austin to San Antonio
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I love my MBT's (got three so far) but I ordered one a few months back and got impatient, so I decided to give one of these a try (https://dsgarms.com/dsg-4202-0012).

Not as crisp as an MBT, but breaks about the same, and probably the next best thing I've ever used for the money. Definitely nicer than a RRA National match/varmint trigger which I also own FWIW. Currently only $75 too...

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Old 08-18-2018, 08:57 PM   #44
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I put a 2 stage Geissele G2S in a 9mm PSA stripped lower with a 16" PSA upper.
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The 2 stage triggers don't reliably reset. https://www.ar15.com/forums/AR-15/Th...rs-/15-713015/
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Hmm... Thanks for the link. I'll keep and eye on it next time I take it out.
Closing the loop on an earlier conversation... I took the 9mm AR out again today putting more rounds on it and had no issues with the trigger. I guess the trigger & bolt I have play nice together.
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Old 08-19-2018, 12:12 PM   #45
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Got my MBT 2 stage in this week. For the money, I think it can't be beat. I do like my Geissele SSAE more, but the difference isn't huge between the two. The Geissele has a little lighter second stage and a shorter reset. Only thing I don't love about the LaRue is the width of the trigger. Overall it's a killer deal for the price and I wouldn't hesitate to buy another.
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Curtis I got mine on thursday its going in the gun today and ill probably make it to the range to break it in later today.
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Ordered a handful of them 8/16, got the shipping notification today. Just under 4 weeks. But well worth the wait.
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Old 09-06-2018, 05:28 PM   #48
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I agree they are great trigger , well worth the money. So much better than the original one in my ar that my POI changed when I first shot it with the Larue.
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The LaRue MBT-2S has to be it. Was on sale for $99 before and now they dropped the price to $87 through Christmas. It was a great deal before. Now it is a no brainer imo. Just as nice as the Geissele SSA-E. Blind folded it would be hard to tell a difference.

If you are doing an AR build or want to upgrade your trigger to something nicer, get this. Seriously, you will thank me later.


https://www.larue.com/products/larue...bt-2s-trigger/
Agreed in 100%. Holy FK! LaRue totally nailed that one with performance and price. Giselle, you have your ass kicked on that one!
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So this would go good with my PSA 20" FN'd 7.62 AR-10 upper?

Looking for a DMR role with the 3x18 scope ontop.
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So this would go good with my PSA 20" FN'd 7.62 AR-10 upper?

Looking for a DMR role with the 3x18 scope ontop.
Absolutely!
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I am looking at one for the AR. The SSA and SSA-E are hard to swallow at $240. Now Geissele makes a SG2 which is a cheaper SSA. But still is more exp than the larue. Any feedback on the larue yet?
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Any feedback on the larue yet?
It's hard to find somebody who doesn't like theirs. I got one at $99 a while back. Liked it so much, next time they went on sale for $99, I got 3 more. Still liked them. Now that they're $87, I got another handful of them. I got a stack of lower receivers that I have no clue what I'm gonna do with. But I do know that they'll be getting larue triggers in them.

If I had to pick something to complain about, I wish the trigger was skinnier or rounded and I really, really wish they worked right in pistol caliber ARs.
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I forgot to come back and leave an update on mine:

I got mine it shortly before my Nilgai hunt (which I didnt get, but I did get a huge hog).

Folks, I cannot stress how good of a trigger this is. I have shot many G's, RRA, I own 4 POF single stage, Hiperfire's , hell even slicked up competition triggers on M14s from Vietnam. I have never used an out of the box trigger better than the MBT! I immediately got home an ordered 2 more.

I have always loved a 2 stage trigger, and this one is the best one out there for me. My friend went with me and has always been a Geisselle fan, till he shot this. He was asking me for order info as soon as we got home from the hunt (4am). There is almost no declarable difference in the 2, but I like the wider trigger face on the MBT better. If you shoot these side by side and think the G is worth over twice as much, you are crazy. I will begin fazing out all of my triggers except for the POF ETP2 in the coming months in order to get in on the Pre-Christmas sale.
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lol. Have you read this thread before you posted?
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LaRue master race.

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@giantpune ...are you using the 4.5 lb trigger spring or the 6 lb spring?
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I use the light one that comes preinstalled on them. Never had a reason to even try installing the heavy one.
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I use the light one that comes preinstalled on them. Never had a reason to even try installing the heavy one.
kewl, I've used the LaRue trigger that a buddy had it in his gun and just ordered a pair of them for myself. I just had been reading up that a lot of people on Arfcom didn't like how weak the trigger reset was on the softer spring for a duty gun, or for 3gun and used the 6 lber... was just seeing how it was in the "wild" so to speak

and do you have any issues just dropping them in? I saw a few guys on a few other forums wondering if they'd have issues with some safety selectors since the MBT uses a full "width" shoe on the trigger itself (where it meets the safety selector cutout) and might need to be trimmed (either the trigger shoe or selector)
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Never had any issues with the mbt plopping right in and haven't had to fit anything. I also don't use any exotic safeties. All mine are plane-Jane mil-spec safeties.
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Never had any issues with the mbt plopping right in and haven't had to fit anything. I also don't use any exotic safeties. All mine are plane-Jane mil-spec safeties.
sounds good. sorry for the newbie questions. I got to finger fuck one the other day from a buddy's gun that came with it (LaRue lower) and fell in love. Grabbed 2 and wanted to make sure I could have my ducks in line to just get them installed asap. I've never used anything but plane jane mil-spec triggers and safeties before so I wasn't sure

I'm super tempted to just grab another 3 on top of the 2 I bought to put in future builds or some other guns of mine

EDIT: Oh, one last question. You mentioned the 2 stage triggers not working in pistol caliber ARss... I'm assuming you mean pistol calibers like 9mm, 45 yadda yadda, rather than 5.56/.223 AR Pistols (just wanna double check as one is going into one of those PSA SBA3 Ar pistol kits they've been going nuts with)

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If you bought an MBT, expect to wait.

Let me preface this by saying that I've never bought an MBT, so take from this what you will:

Before this sale, you had two options: "can't wait, gotta have it now" = pay more, get it sooner. Or, "have plenty of time" = pay less, it'll get to you when it gets to you.

It may take a few weeks/month, at least, but it'll arrive.
Yep, I haven't bought one YET, but I have looked every year and seen that.

I am genuinely curious how long the extended wait time is to be delivered.
I'm in no rush, just always been curious what that time frame is.

Cheaper is ALWAYS better......thanks for sharing Burning
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The LaRue MBT-2S has to be it. Was on sale for $99 before and now they dropped the price to $87 through Christmas. It was a great deal before. Now it is a no brainer imo. Just as nice as the Geissele SSA-E. Blind folded it would be hard to tell a difference.

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https://www.larue.com/products/larue...bt-2s-trigger/


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You mentioned the 2 stage triggers not working in pistol caliber ARss... I'm assuming you mean pistol calibers like 9mm, 45 yadda yadda, rather than 5.56/.223 AR Pistols (just wanna double check as one is going into one of those PSA SBA3 Ar pistol kits they've been going nuts with)
Correct. Its something about the shape of the 9mm and 45 bolts. They won't reliably reset the MBT trigger. You can have the bolt sent off to somebody like Macon Armory and Rudy can reshape it a bit to work with the aftermarket triggers.
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Yep, I haven't bought one YET, but I have looked every year and seen that.

I am genuinely curious how long the extended wait time is to be delivered.
I'm in no rush, just always been curious what that time frame is.

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Extended wait time for me has been 3 weeks for the one I received 2 weeks ago. The weird thing is, it was ready in 2 weeks, but somehow took over a week to get from Austin to San Antonio by mail.
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lol. Have you read this thread before you posted?
I ordered mine and they told me 3 weeks this was on Tuesday. A few reviews that say it's better than SSA but not as good as an SSA-E . I dont have either of those or know anyone that does to compare so that comparison to me doesnt mean much. I'm just trying to figure out if these originally sold for $250 and now are $87 for the same trigger how Geisselle is still charging that much for his trigger. I dont have one now. But after just putting in an ALG E in the AK. I never really thought about it until I came across this thread. I guess if it's being compared to a Geisselle $240 trigger and its $87 there is really nothing to lose. When I ordered there was no option to get it earlier as someone mentioned.
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I ordered mine and they told me 3 weeks this was on Tuesday. A few reviews that say it's better than SSA but not as good as an SSA-E . I dont have either of those or know anyone that does to compare so that comparison to me doesnt mean much. I'm just trying to figure out if these originally sold for $250 and now are $87 for the same trigger how Geisselle is still charging that much for his trigger. I dont have one now. But after just putting in an ALG E in the AK. I never really thought about it until I came across this thread. I guess if it's being compared to a Geisselle $240 trigger and its $87 there is really nothing to lose. When I ordered there was no option to get it earlier as someone mentioned.
You asked if there was any feedback and I was just messing with you by asking if you had read the thread. There are multiple posts before yours stating how much members love this MBT-2S trigger and how great it is. If you had read the thread, I am sure you had read the feedback that owners of the trigger had posted.

Yes it is better than a SSA and I would argue as good as a SSA-E. If I was blindfolded, not sure I could tell the difference between the MBT-2S and the SSA-E. That is how nice the LaRue trigger is. Different shooters will prefer different triggers and how they feel, how they break and how they reset. The LaRue is perfect imo.

Ask Mark how he can make them and sell them this cheap. He has a great facility if you watch some of the YT videos. He has a shop just for making these triggers. He is just cranking these out. Went through a divorce recently, so trying to make some cashola to get back straight again I guess. Plus he is probably trying to take a market share away from Bill Geissele.


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Ask Mark how he can make them and sell them this cheap. He has a great facility if you watch some of the YT videos. He has a shop just for making these triggers. He is just cranking these out. Went through a divorce recently, so trying to make some cashola to get back straight again I guess. Plus he is probably trying to take a market share away from Bill Geissele.


lol, yeah Mark LaRue is kind of liked and hated in the industry. On a few insider style forums I'm a member of they kind of consider him a plague on the AR industry, claiming that he'll undercut the entire market on some things just to drive one of them out of business and take a loss just to spite them. I'm pretty sure Mark isn't making a wild amount on the MB2, maybe going a few bucks over break even to get to the 50,000 number. However, that tells you just how much profit there is in Bill Geissele's triggers though, and explains why they're terrified of him stealing the market right now
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lol, yeah Mark LaRue is kind of liked and hated in the industry. On a few insider style forums I'm a member of they kind of consider him a plague on the AR industry, claiming that he'll undercut the entire market on some things just to drive one of them out of business and take a loss just to spite them. I'm pretty sure Mark isn't making a wild amount on the MB2, maybe going a few bucks over break even to get to the 50,000 number. However, that tells you just how much profit there is in Bill Geissele's triggers though, and explains why they're terrified of him stealing the market right now
Yeah I see Mark's posts over on ARFCOM. He is a like him or hate him type of guy it seems. Whatever, he is what he is. He makes a great product. Supports the Constitution and 2A. Supports our soldiers. And has really good dillo dust. He is a-ok in my books.

The AR industry is hurting. So I can't imagine what his competitors are thinking with him dropping the price of the trigger and then also coming out with his ultimate upper kits and killing it on value there too. Good for the consumer imo.
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Yeah I see Mark's posts over on ARFCOM. He is a like him or hate him type of guy it seems. Whatever, he is what he is. He makes a great product. Supports the Constitution and 2A. Supports our soldiers. And has really good dillo dust. He is a-ok in my books.

The AR industry is hurting. So I can't imagine what his competitors are thinking with him dropping the price of the trigger and then also coming out with his ultimate upper kits and killing it on value there too. Good for the consumer imo.
oh yeah, I don't care as a consumer. If he makes a good product and it's half the price of his competitors? fuck it, I"m in. I don't play loyalty games. I'm loyal to whomever gives me good products for a good price with good service. In that category LaRue is kicking ass right now (at least for us)
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