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Old 01-17-2017, 01:22 PM   #141
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Just bought a case for hunting and STHF. If I kill a hog I'll post results here.
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Old 01-17-2017, 06:02 PM   #142
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Awesome, sorta wish we had hogs in my AO.
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Old 01-20-2017, 09:29 PM   #143
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Got some of this 8m3 and going to make some gel to test it on...hope to get a vid up.
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Old 01-20-2017, 09:33 PM   #144
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Got some of this 8m3 and going to make some gel to test it on...hope to get a vid up.
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Old 01-21-2017, 06:30 PM   #145
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Just ordered 1K of 8m3 and 1K of Sellier and Bellot 9mm. PTR-91 purchase will have to wait a little longer.
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Old 01-22-2017, 12:03 PM   #146
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As soon as I saw the Chopping Block video I ordered 500 rds from SG. My order arrived Jan.21 now I can't wait to shoot a hog with this ammo ! But my latest hog kill meat arrived from the local butcher Jan.17 so my freezer is full, LOL.

I have been hoping that Golden Tiger would come up with a HP round as GT shoots cleaner than most.
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Old 01-22-2017, 01:08 PM   #147
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Couple of notes about my experience with these rounds, it does seem to be a bit dirty and out of 40 rounds I shot I had one that did not go off the first time. The primer was dented really well so it was a good firing pin strike, new gun too so definitely not a weak hammer spring issue. It did go off on the second try. Just my experience so far. Didn't get a chance to really test accuracy as I was simply cycling them for function at the time.
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Old 01-29-2017, 04:05 PM   #148
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I picked up some vintage "Sapsan" lacquered and sealed 8M3 ammo at the gun show yesterday. Box says it was manufactured by Uly...I don't know how old it is but the box lists an email contact and I found some online mentions of it back around 2006


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Old 01-29-2017, 04:18 PM   #149
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There ought to be a lot number and a date on the boxes.
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There ought to be a lot number and a date on the boxes.
I did not see any lot number on the outside or inside the box, so I just sent an inquiry to the Ulyanovsk Machinery Plant email on the box
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Old 02-06-2017, 01:22 AM   #151
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Definitely don't need more 762 at the moment because I am plenty stocked but going to buy a case of this just so that Sam can see that it is selling well and it sticks around for the long haul.
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Old 02-12-2017, 11:58 AM   #152
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I just ordered another case.

Because Sam has always been a stand-up guy and never tried to take advantage of us when other vendors did, and now it's time to give back some of that support.

And in spite of best intentions and efforts, there are no guarantees that any more 8M3 will come in.
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Old 02-13-2017, 12:47 AM   #153
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Tula is the dirtiest AK ammo I have ever used hands down with GT being the cleanest based on my "experience" not hearsay. I haven't had a chance to shoot the 8m3 Tula yet.
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Old 02-13-2017, 12:34 PM   #154
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Tula is the dirtiest AK ammo I have ever used hands down with GT being the cleanest based on my "experience" not hearsay. I haven't had a chance to shoot the 8m3 Tula yet.
From which plants did that Tula ammo come?
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I have no pictures or videos to show you...

But I can confirm from shooting this stuff that it's just as dirty as regular Tula. Accuracy is typical Tula quality. So.... outside of the possible "8M3 Effect", it's just regular Tula stuff.

I'm not terribly impressed with it. But then again, I don't have any gel to do tests on.
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Old 02-13-2017, 05:43 PM   #156
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Bought some from SGammo. Keep it up guys, so SGammo keeps them in stock!
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Old 02-13-2017, 10:25 PM   #157
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I think we need an enterprising reloaded to pull bullets and load into either better quality steel with better powder (think GT but with the 8m3 bullet) or straight up reverse Mexican match with good US brass and powder. I'd love to see the real life accuracy potential of the bullets themselves without the Tula limitation.
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Old 02-14-2017, 12:44 AM   #158
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I think we need an enterprising reloaded to pull bullets and load into either better quality steel with better powder (think GT but with the 8m3 bullet) or straight up reverse Mexican match with good US brass and powder. I'd love to see the real life accuracy potential of the bullets themselves without the Tula limitation.
I know you can reload sort of ( steel case) not the best idea. Lots of work IMO for little results.
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Old 02-14-2017, 11:13 AM   #159
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There needs to be more tests done on this ammo. Anyone have anything in the works?
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I know you can reload sort of ( steel case) not the best idea. Lots of work IMO for little results.
Not true at all. You can reload steel just fine and good steel casings can be reloaded as often as brass. Look up Mexican match: it's been around for a while and works. What I'm talking about is the reverse, though: using the 8m3 bullet in a better case with better powder so we can test the bullet itself.
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Old 02-15-2017, 07:43 AM   #161
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Not true at all. You can reload steel just fine and good steel casings can be reloaded as often as brass. Look up Mexican match: it's been around for a while and works.
Sounds interesting. will do.
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If any of you guys get to wanting some once fired 7.62x39 steel cases to reload........just let me know. I've been saving mine. Don't like hitting them with the mower and been thinking about a bead curtain project (bullet curtain man cave idea) which hasn't been started yet.

By the way. Is it just the Tula 124gr HPs that are 8M3 as described? Or is the Wolf MC 124gr HP the same stuff? If not....what makes it different? Maybe I missed something if this was covered earlier in the thread.

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So I was out hunting and a friend using my Galil ACE loaded with 8m3 saw a raccoon and hit it at about 25-35 yards, wasn't until we rolled it over did we see it was a ginormous feral tom cat, crazy

Needless to say the round went into the side, and went through 3-4 inches of flesh and bone, the exit wound was roughly 2 inches wide and it looked like the wound channel was a hole dug through the center of the car at least 2 inches down

This round is fucking brutal
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Old 03-04-2017, 06:55 PM   #164
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So I was out hunting and a friend using my Galil ACE loaded with 8m3 saw a raccoon and hit it at about 25-35 yards, wasn't until we rolled it over did we see it was a ginormous feral tom cat, crazy

Needless to say the round went into the side, and went through 3-4 inches of flesh and bone, the exit wound was roughly 2 inches wide and it looked like the wound channel was a hole dug through the center of the car at least 2 inches down

This round is fucking brutal
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Old 03-06-2017, 02:41 AM   #165
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hmmm someone needs to chrono tula 5.45 if it's as hot as their 7.62x39mm we have a top tier commercial 5.45x39mm round
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I heard that it barley reaches 2,500 FPS.

I plan on testing Tula, wolf MS, and the new GT in terms of velocity and accuracy this coming weekend.
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I heard that it barley reaches 2,500 FPS.

I plan on testing Tula, wolf MS, and the new GT in terms of velocity and accuracy this coming weekend.
Awesome! Looking forward to seeing your results.
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Old 03-13-2017, 10:28 PM   #168
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Ive put 100 rounds of it through my m92, its good to go.
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Good stuff! Stock it folks......
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Devastating! Thanks for postings......should be bookmarked...
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Old 06-29-2017, 06:51 PM   #171
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Just for clarification, what is important is that the OP is showing consistency amongst the three rounds.
Yes, if the gel is colder than standard or the water content lower than standard the test will show less stretch and this appears as under performing. This is true with milk container using water tests also. Hotter water tends to explode more. The two extremes of this concept can be seen shooting near boiling water versus water near freezing. Huge difference. I think that recording the block temperature and keeping it consistent from test to test is fair. Also, a bb depth calibration test also helps to keep things fair. I am totally sure about this part, but reusing gelatin over and over again may cause density changes that will affect the performance. A fresh batch each time might reduce this variable.
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Just ordered some, where can I get gel at a good price to compare it to the SST and Zmax (it's actually Vmax but turned retarded market gimmick) ammo I also have?
The original Zmax did perform like a varmint load. This was much better for people defense than the SST deer load. Good point.
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Old 06-30-2017, 10:14 AM   #173
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I'm surprised that there aren't more videos of ballistic testing with the 8m3. There was the initial hype but it's died down.
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Holy s***! That's awesome
Just ordered 300 rounds right now from Sam. I'll order another 300 probably next month if he has it available.
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