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Old 08-11-2017, 02:43 PM   #1
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Default Vertical grip AOW $5 transfer

I have an Omega OM9-RS on layaway (very excited) and I'm wanting to add a vertical grip on the cheap. My understanding is according to the atf.gov if I send the pistol to an ffl/sot he can add the vertical grip submit a form 2 then transfer the firearm back to me on form 4 which results in a $5 transfer tax.

My question is who can do this in the San Antonio-Austin area? Any recommendations? Thankyou
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Old 08-12-2017, 07:36 PM   #2
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I'm pretty sure it's a $200 tax stamp to register it then it can be transferred for a $5 stamp.
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Old 08-12-2017, 07:39 PM   #3
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I'm pretty sure it's a $200 tax stamp to register it then it can be transferred for a $5 stamp.
No, read what the OP has written.

For a FFL with a manufacturing FFL, it is "freely" manufactured under the auspices of their license.

It then becomes transferable with a $5 NFA tax for the end user.



If the OP were to "do it himself" ( which he's NOT asking about ), it'd cost a him a $200 manufacturing tax ( no $5 involved anywhere with this path )
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Right now, with wait times being at over a year, you would most likely be better off paying the extra $195 for your form 1 permission stamp (no idea what the FFL07 would charge to hold on to your firearm for a year on top of "manufacturing" it).

Not to mention that you have the versatility to add a stock if you choose to do so. If wait times were only a couple months, and the total cost was under $200, I would be interested in your idea for my B&T P26.
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Old 08-13-2017, 12:05 PM   #5
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Agreed, If I have to wait 8 months then the $195 is irrelevant, might as well go all the way and sbr it.

I should know this week.
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I'm 99% sure that even a sot manufacturer has to transfer at the $200 tax rate unless it's transfers exclusively to the US government or exempted agencies.

Atf Tax code chapter 4.1

If you read all of it, it says if you transfer aow items to anyone other than the government or other sot you have to pay the manufacturer tax the first time it is transferred and then after it transfers on a $5 transfer stamp.

Then again I'm no tax lawyer.

(Isn't it kind of weird that all aows are about $200-300 more than regular than their non aow counterparts even from manufacturers?)
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I'm 99% sure that even a sot manufacturer has to transfer at the $200 tax rate unless it's transfers exclusively to the US government or exempted agencies.
Might want to work on your reading skills.

A SOT pays a huge tax every year and can make as many NFA weapons as s/he likes under this tax ( and their FFL 07 ). S/he keeps track of all NFA weapons made on their daily ledger.

They do not have anything to do with the taxes ( that's between the recipient & the government and involves a form 4 ).

When the FFL 07/SOT receives a copy of an approved form 4 for the item in question, they make sure their service / product payment is taken care of and yellow form the item to the recipient.
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And it says clearly that a sot transferring a aow to anyone other that an exempted agency must pay a $200 manufacture stamp before transferring.

Just confirmed it with the atf.
$200 manufacture tax (even from an sot holder)
+ $5 transfer stamp.

Long story short, an aow can't be sold to the public without a $200 manufacture tax being paid. It then transfers on a $5 stamp.
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And it says clearly that a sot transferring a aow to anyone other that an exempted agency must pay a $200 manufacture stamp before transferring.

Just confirmed it with the atf.
$200 manufacture tax (even from an sot holder)
+ $5 transfer stamp.

Long story short, an aow can't be sold to the public without a $200 manufacture tax being paid. It then transfers on a $5 stamp.
Reading skills.
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Reading skills.
4.2.3
Sot is not required to pay $200 manufacture if they conduct business exclusively with government agencies.
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