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Old 11-04-2018, 08:38 AM   #1
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I find it interesting salt isnt talked about much. Finding salt is a requirement in a SHTF situation. Native Americans could not survive without it, nor could early settlers survive without salt. If you live near an ocean aquiring salt is no big deal. For the rest of us finding salt can be the difference of life or death.

The Native Americans and early settlers in my AO gathered salt from brine springs. They would boil the water leaving behind the salt. Hell, my county of residence is named after salt, licking county.

One way to find salt and mineral deposits is to study deer and other wildlife. Deer will eat the dirt in areas of high salt content or eat the dirt near brine springs.

Salt is a necessity for preserving food and maintaining health. I think it would be smart for preppers to find a natural source of salt and study ways to extract it. Research your area for salt sources, it might just save your life.
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Side note

One could enjoy a relaxing weekend in the woods locating a salt source. It would require nothing more than boiling water from natural springs or water weeping spots. You might find that some springs have a higher salt content than others. The higher the salt content, the less work it will take to extract it. The importance of salt can not be taken lightly. Good luck and happy hunting.
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iodided salt as well. and Angelina Jolie pics. does everyone have their SHTF Angelina Jolie pics?



can you show us your preparation AJ pics?





I found this prepper site for you to check out:



please scroll to third level of pics for some of my prep items

https://www.pinterest.com/jdmarq/ama...en-iv/?lp=true

be aware of you contaminants. some salt can be ruined in close proximity to ink based products



seen below Salt contanimation





too much Salt can cause issues as well. Salt attracts moisture. If salt is wet you should expose to low humidity. putting salt in the sun to dry can make your salt easier to handle and transport in your vehicle.

Some preppers enjoy consuming salt and measures should be made to contain salt properly for long term storage



when handling salt be sure to wash your hands thoroughly. Getting salt in your eyes can affect your vision

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Natives such as Pocahontas were into water sports and licking armpits
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iodided salt as well. and Angelina Jolie pics. does everyone have their SHTF Angelina Jolie pics?



can you show us your preparation AJ pics?





I found this prepper site for you to check out:



please scroll to third level of pics for some of my prep items

https://www.pinterest.com/jdmarq/ama...en-iv/?lp=true

be aware of you contaminants. some salt can be ruined in close proximity to ink based products



seen below Salt contanimation





too much Salt can cause issues as well. Salt attracts moisture. If salt is wet you should expose to low humidity. putting salt in the sun to dry can make your salt easier to handle and transport in your vehicle.

Some preppers enjoy consuming salt and measures should be made to contain salt properly for long term storage



when handling salt be sure to wash your hands thoroughly. Getting salt in your eyes can affect your vision

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sorry, I didn't mean to pour salt on an open wound fellas.

morning medication I guess

Having iodized salt is important.

here's a link on salt storage, longterm

http://www.happypreppers.com/salt.html

"Pioneers packed 10-lbs. of salt per person for their six month
journey along the Oregon trail, which is equivalent of ten Morton
iodized salt containers. As a general guide, with 10-lbs. of salt
you can cure around 200 lbs. of meat."
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sorry, I didn't mean to pour salt on an open wound fellas.

morning medication I guess

Having iodized salt is important.

here's a link on salt storage, longterm

http://www.happypreppers.com/salt.html

"Pioneers packed 10-lbs. of salt per person for their six month
journey along the Oregon trail, which is equivalent of ten Morton
iodized salt containers. As a general guide, with 10-lbs. of salt
you can cure around 200 lbs. of meat."
No problem, my hatred for leftists runs deep! Thanks for the link!
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Back on topic only $8 for 100 tablets pure non coated tablets it's strong!

https://www.amazon.com/Sodium-Chlori...t_sims?ie=UTF8

Perfect if your in for a hard night of drinking

A long range hiking trip in summer

And most importantly if you have a vomiting bug/diarrhea
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Back on topic only $8 for 100 tablets pure non coated tablets it's strong!

https://www.amazon.com/Sodium-Chlori...t_sims?ie=UTF8

Perfect if your in for a hard night of drinking

A long range hiking trip in summer

And most importantly if you have a vomiting bug/diarrhea
Most definitely a prepper's short term survival item. Im thinking mass quantities of salt for preserving meat as well as a bartering tool. Stockpiling food and supplies will only last so long. Plus the cost factor. Im always trying to figure out ways to become self sufficient. I believe longterm survival of my group depends on it. Salt in the long run will be worth more than gold if we find ourselves living in the 18th century due to a SHTF situation.
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Good thread

Need to store even more of it

A lot of prepared prepper food is loaded w sodium
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Salt in the long run will be worth more than gold if we find ourselves living in the 18th century due to a SHTF situation.
If a "SHTF situation" drives the price of salt to surpass that of gold, we'll be living back in the "before Christ" times.

Salt was a household commodity in the 1800s.
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Back on topic only $8 for 100 tablets pure non coated tablets it's strong!

https://www.amazon.com/Sodium-Chlori...t_sims?ie=UTF8

Perfect if your in for a hard night of drinking

A long range hiking trip in summer

And most importantly if you have a vomiting bug/diarrhea

That's about $36.00 a pound. You can buy a 40# bag of Morton solar water softner salt, that is 99.7% pure salt, for about 6 bucks, or about 15 cents a pound. The tabs will cost you about $1440.00 for the same amount of salt.

Water softner salt is the way to go to stock salt, and it is multi use. In your water softner, for weight in the back of your truck, or melting ice on the drive or walkway in the winter, for use in your ice cream maker in summer. You can also put it in your salt grinder for the table, use it to make a brine to preserve and pickle foods, or pack fish and meat in it to preserve. Makes a decent weed killer as well.

Cheap, easy to store, never goes bad and has a myriad of uses. Definitely should be near the top on every preppers list..

Stand by for allesennogwat to tell us how it is bad for your health, causes high BP etc though.
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Few good videos on youtube that explain salting pork and other meats for long term storage!
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I would agree agree about the youtube videos about salting meats and flavoring. And a few good books for when electricity is gone.
Wilbur F. Eastman Jr-A guide to Canning, Freezing, Curing & Smoking Meat, Fish & Game
Philip Hasheider-The complete Book Of Butchering, Smoking, Curing, And Sausage Making
Michael Ruhlman & Brian Polcyn-Charcuterie The Craft of Salting, Smoking & Curing

And thanks for the tip about bulk softwater softener salt. It is a lot easier to stock up on that than the cylindrical morton salt containers. Having a small supply of food grade potassium iodide (Ki) with instructions for dilution is a good idea to have. The Ki is good for radioactivity and for adding to salt in shtf scenarios.

Another good item to have on hand to mix in with regular table salt or sea salt for curing meats is a supply of food grade sodium nitrite. As well as large glass jars or ceramic ware for pickling.

And for those into long term storage for your eggs check out this youtube video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTlcCvvUjl0
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I would agree agree about the youtube videos about salting meats and flavoring. And a few good books for when electricity is gone.
Wilbur F. Eastman Jr-A guide to Canning, Freezing, Curing & Smoking Meat, Fish & Game
Philip Hasheider-The complete Book Of Butchering, Smoking, Curing, And Sausage Making
Michael Ruhlman & Brian Polcyn-Charcuterie The Craft of Salting, Smoking & Curing

And thanks for the tip about bulk softwater softener salt. It is a lot easier to stock up on that than the cylindrical morton salt containers. Having a small supply of food grade potassium iodide (Ki) with instructions for dilution is a good idea to have. The Ki is good for radioactivity and for adding to salt in shtf scenarios.

Another good item to have on hand to mix in with regular table salt or sea salt for curing meats is a supply of food grade sodium nitrite. As well as large glass jars or ceramic ware for pickling.

And for those into long term storage for your eggs check out this youtube video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTlcCvvUjl0
Awesome post, thanks for the information and future reads!!
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Awesome post, thanks for the information and future reads!!
I've thought of future reading abilities and challenges that could face us. Tonight is my first effort in research for best supplies to use for paper records.

hard copy documentation is necessary if you even have a chance to use knowledge saved to paper.... don't use those thermal paper receipts. Will you have electricity...

http://copar.org/bulletin14.htm

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Paper: Use acid free paper. Though archival supply catalogues carry acid free bond paper it is usually expensive; regular paper suppliers carry inexpensive acid free paper. Note that, because of Federal (and much State) requirements for the use of acid free paper in creating government records, much paper is currently acid-free even when it does not say so. To test paper, an inexpensive acid-tester pen is available from many of the supply catalogues listed in CoPAR Bulletin No. 11.
Paper: Do not use: yellow (or any other color) note pads; colored paper of any kind; brown wrapping paper; manila envelopes.
Do not use rubber bands for long-term storage, as they will harden and snap in pieces, or soften and expand. Keep things together by using folders.
Use stainless steel, plastic-covered, or plastic paper clips. Staples are acceptable for temporary storage; archivists may remove them later."
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I've thought of future reading abilities and challenges that could face us. Tonight is my first effort in research for best supplies to use for paper records.

hard copy documentation is necessary if you even have a chance to use knowledge saved to paper.... don't use those thermal paper receipts. Will you have electricity...

http://copar.org/bulletin14.htm

"Paper based records:

Paper: Use acid free paper. Though archival supply catalogues carry acid free bond paper it is usually expensive; regular paper suppliers carry inexpensive acid free paper. Note that, because of Federal (and much State) requirements for the use of acid free paper in creating government records, much paper is currently acid-free even when it does not say so. To test paper, an inexpensive acid-tester pen is available from many of the supply catalogues listed in CoPAR Bulletin No. 11.
Paper: Do not use: yellow (or any other color) note pads; colored paper of any kind; brown wrapping paper; manila envelopes.
Do not use rubber bands for long-term storage, as they will harden and snap in pieces, or soften and expand. Keep things together by using folders.
Use stainless steel, plastic-covered, or plastic paper clips. Staples are acceptable for temporary storage; archivists may remove them later."
Its been found that writings etched in stone is hard to beat for withstanding the tests of time.
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I find it interesting salt isnt talked about much. Finding salt is a requirement in a SHTF situation. Native Americans could not survive without it, nor could early settlers survive without salt. If you live near an ocean aquiring salt is no big deal. For the rest of us finding salt can be the difference of life or death.

The Native Americans and early settlers in my AO gathered salt from brine springs. They would boil the water leaving behind the salt. Hell, my county of residence is named after salt, licking county.

One way to find salt and mineral deposits is to study deer and other wildlife. Deer will eat the dirt in areas of high salt content or eat the dirt near brine springs.

Salt is a necessity for preserving food and maintaining health. I think it would be smart for preppers to find a natural source of salt and study ways to extract it. Research your area for salt sources, it might just save your life.
Not completely accurate...
No salt in lives of the Anishinabee Ojibway in Minnesota in the old days,wild rice has a high amount of salt and that was what all they had...
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Thanks for the reminders on salt and ways to find it!!

I have a thumb drive with tons of manuals, and most of the survivor library. Check it out if you have not. Thousands of books on pre industrial life. Also have a lot of references on the iPad, with a solar panel and battery to keep it going. If you are concerned about EMP throw a cheap laptop into your faraday cage with your thumb drive, etc.
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No salt in lives of the Anishinabee Ojibway in Minnesota in the old days,wild rice has a high amount of salt and that was what all they had...
You do realize that you said no salt in their lives and that they ate wild rice with high amounts of salt, right?

I am assuming that you mean wild rice has higher amounts of naturally occurring.. um, what's that word...oh yeah, SALT!
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You do realize that you said no salt in their lives and that they ate wild rice with high amounts of salt, right?

I am assuming that you mean wild rice has higher amounts of naturally occurring.. um, what's that word...oh yeah, SALT!
Lol, I wonder how he thinks the rice is magically high in salt!
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Thanks for the reminders on salt and ways to find it!!

I have a thumb drive with tons of manuals, and most of the survivor library. Check it out if you have not. Thousands of books on pre industrial life. Also have a lot of references on the iPad, with a solar panel and battery to keep it going. If you are concerned about EMP throw a cheap laptop into your faraday cage with your thumb drive, etc.
Now this is a badass idea. I have a few Faraday cages I made at work out of galvanized metal.
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Good thread. I stock several pounds of salt and it's probably about time I check my inventory as I've had it for 5+ years. I like the idea about water softener salt, I didn't realize it was food grade.
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I like the idea about water softener salt, I didn't realize it was food grade.
It's not "food grade", but it's safe to ingest so long as you don't get the stuff with "added cleansers" and "algae reducing agents" and such.
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If a "SHTF situation" drives the price of salt to surpass that of gold, we'll be living back in the "before Christ" times.

Salt was a household commodity in the 1800s.
Nails, I think the point wasn't really the price, but that salt is such a common thing now that no one even thinks about it.

And yes in those times things were a tad different. Entire wars were fought over salt, what's that ancient highway across Europe simply for the salt trade?


Not directed to anyone individually.


I keep a couple pounds of salt on hand. It takes me a long time to go through one lb. like a year or so at the rate I use it now. If the shtf, I have enough, or I don't have any if a twister takes my house out, or someone else has enough cause I'm dead. That is about my options.
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It's not "food grade", but it's safe to ingest so long as you don't get the stuff with "added cleansers" and "algae reducing agents" and such.
That's why I specified Morton "solar" salt (blue bag, natural crystals).

I contacted them and asked what was it in, and they responded with an email that it was 99.7% pure salt. That is usable for any purpose you would want salt for.

Now the yellow bagged pellets and the green bag iron stain preventer pellets (that may be better for your softener) have a very small percentage of other added cleaners, flow enhancers, etc., but the blue bag is going to be purer than anything you are going to find in the natural mineral deposits mentioned in the OP. but that is good knowledge to have too, as one never knows what might happen, and where you'll be when it does.

In this day and age even with the low cost of salt and its prolificy in our world, $5.99 for 40 pounds is a good deal. And it lasts literally forever .
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Good thread. I stock several pounds of salt and it's probably about time I check my inventory as I've had it for 5+ years. I like the idea about water softener salt, I didn't realize it was food grade.
The main thing to do to keep salt is not to let it get wet, not that that would hurt it for use in an emergency, but it will wash it away and into places where it can cause havoc with corrosion.

The thing to look for in softener salt, is as I stated above, the natural crystals. In the Morton brand that is their "Solar" natural crystals in the blue bag. You can find them at Wally world, the local grocery or home improvement stores.

https://www.mortonsalt.com/home-prod...SAAEgLapPD_BwE

Kept dry, it will last for thousands of years, just as it has underground. It is just a rock after all.

It will also store wet as in the sea, the other major source, but as I mentioned that can be problematic, and dry is much more convenient.

Most salt in the U.S. is either mined deep below ground(likely in Ohio or Quebec), or more commonly, taken from large evaporative pools like those Morton and other producers have on both coasts.

Another good source for salt to store that stacks nice, is cattle salt blocks of the pure white variety(non mineral added) They are shaped and have a hole in the middle for stacking, and some come vacuum plastic sealed. You can find them at Tractor Supply and such and other farm/feed type stores.

Also setting a few of these out on your property at regular intervals, if you live in the country, will insure a steady visit of game animals, should you ever need to take advantage of that resource.
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The main thing to do to keep salt is not to let it get wet, not that that would hurt it for use in an emergency, but it will wash it away and into places where it can cause havoc with corrosion.
Recycle your cat littler buckets for salt storage ( you know, wash them out when they've been emptied of cat litter, let them dry and store your salt in them )


One of these buckets holds 40# of salt, and while not 100% waterproof, will keep the salt just fine in your pantry.

As a matter of fact, these buckets - cleaned out - can be used to hold a variety of bulk foods for immediate usage ( not long term storage )
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A good alternative bucket is if you can make friends with a local bar or greasy spoon...the 5 gal buckets that their deep fryer oil probably comes in are food grade...just gotta wash the oil out.
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A good alternative bucket is if you can make friends with a local bar or greasy spoon...the 5 gal buckets that their deep fryer oil probably comes in are food grade...just gotta wash the oil out.
That is not good advice, IMHO.

Oil & plastics share molecular chains and they can intermix permanently ( this is why your tupperware turns & stays orange after you store chili in it, for instance )

Doughnut shops & grocery bakeries have the same food grade buckets available, but without the oily mess due to their daily requirement for tasty fillings.


With salt, it doesn't have to be "food grade" as the salt is not going to absorb anything from what it's bein' stored in ( so a "Homer bucket" with a magazine laid across the top [ to keep the dust out ] will do just as good a job for salt storage as a "food grade" bucket.

I'd not use any containers that had hazmat in them, though.
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Interesting....
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Just found "salt creek" on a forest map where I work. Nice secluded area where I hunt, and the only locals close by are ranchers. I have not checked it out, but I do have a new mission for my next bear hunt in the area
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The main thing to do to keep salt is not to let it get wet, not that that would hurt it for use in an emergency, but it will wash it away and into places where it can cause havoc with corrosion.

The thing to look for in softener salt, is as I stated above, the natural crystals. In the Morton brand that is their "Solar" natural crystals in the blue bag. You can find them at Wally world, the local grocery or home improvement stores.

https://www.mortonsalt.com/home-prod...SAAEgLapPD_BwE

Kept dry, it will last for thousands of years, just as it has underground. It is just a rock after all.

It will also store wet as in the sea, the other major source, but as I mentioned that can be problematic, and dry is much more convenient.

Most salt in the U.S. is either mined deep below ground(likely in Ohio or Quebec), or more commonly, taken from large evaporative pools like those Morton and other producers have on both coasts.

Another good source for salt to store that stacks nice, is cattle salt blocks of the pure white variety(non mineral added) They are shaped and have a hole in the middle for stacking, and some come vacuum plastic sealed. You can find them at Tractor Supply and such and other farm/feed type stores.

Also setting a few of these out on your property at regular intervals, if you live in the country, will insure a steady visit of game animals, should you ever need to take advantage of that resource.
Interesting, had to look into it. Apparently the only difference in this and food grade is in the pellet making process. It just might not be as clean in that process. I'll have to dig a little deeper to see if it's worth the savings.
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Good advice Nails. I generally use new food grade buckets, but I have been going through a lot of them lately and they ain't getting any cheaper.
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Interesting, had to look into it. Apparently the only difference in this and food grade is in the pellet making process. It just might not be as clean in that process. I'll have to dig a little deeper to see if it's worth the savings.
Actually, the "Solar" salt in the blue bag, is not in pellets, just natural crystals. That is the one I was referencing that I wrote them about. I found the email they sent and this is the text:

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Thank you for contacting Morton Salt, and for your interest in our products.

Morton® Pure and Natural (formerly known as Solar Salt) crystals are 99.7% pure salt harvested from natural salt brine through solar evaporation. There are no additives in this product.

Should you have additional questions or comments, feel free to contact us via our toll-free number (800) 725-8847, Monday through Friday 8:30 a.m. - 4:30 p.m. CST, or via our website at www.mortonsalt.com. Again, thank you for contacting Morton Salt.


Sincerely,
Consumer Affairs & Engagement
Morton Salt, Inc.
As far as the pelletized stuff in the yellow and green bags, I don't know if it has additives. FWIW I do know the yellow bagged pellets tend to last longer in my water softener than the crystals, and don't clump up.

So I generally use the pellets in my softener, but keep a few bags of the crystals around, especially in winter for weight in the back of the truck, and to melt ice on the driveway and walk. It actually is usually cheaper than the ice melt salt they sell.
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