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Old 04-16-2019, 08:29 PM   #106
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.40 is fine, I like 10mm better.

.40 really should be called 10mm short, or 10mm for panty boys or something like that.
I jokingly refer to it as 40 Short&Weak but 10mm Short&Weak works too.
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Old 04-16-2019, 08:56 PM   #107
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Strange to hear people complain about recoil from any of the popular pistol cartridges. I've taken many women shooting and never had one complain about recoil from a pistol. If they recoiled like some of the magnum revolvers I would be more willing to understand some concern over controllability or recoil sensitivity. My daughter has been shooting my .40 for years now and she's a very small 16 year old.

For me I prefer the 40 if given the choice of a pistol chambering. I own some of every common pistol cartridge including 10mm. I think the 40 fits the bill fine and covers everything a pistol is intended to do.
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Old 04-16-2019, 09:08 PM   #108
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There is so much misinformation and opinion in this thread it would take a septic truck to unpack all this shit, my advice to anyone is stear clear of this place for pistol or ballistics advice.


Now we return you to the circle jerk of opinions.
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Old 04-17-2019, 07:43 PM   #109
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I guess I'm a little curious about .40 too. My main handgun is a full sized M&P 45, which I love. I am however, starting to think about ccw, and something like a glock 23 is pretty attractive, it's much more compact than the M&P, and fits my hand wonderfully, plus it holds 3 more rounds in the mag. I love the m&p, but if I had it to do over again, I'd haev bought a .40, not .45. Considering that 250 rounds of .40 fmj is about $80 where I live, that makes it more attractive for stocking than .45. The only thing that would make me hesitate is that I have heard Glock .40s have a reputation for cracking, can anyone tell me whether this is true, or just rumor?
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Old 04-17-2019, 07:48 PM   #110
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just rumor?
Yep, internet hot air
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Old 04-17-2019, 09:22 PM   #111
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Old 04-17-2019, 10:06 PM   #112
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I have a FS M&P40 because I sort of inherited it. I practiced with it and kept it close only because it has more capacity than my 1911. Shoot it OK and I like it. Never thought about going any smaller. I did get an M&P9 over the winter, since everyone else has a 9mm, but haven't had it out yet. I've probably shot someone's 9mm in the past but don't remember it. Maybe I'll see what I've been missing.

Can't believe this hasn't been posted.

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Old 04-17-2019, 11:30 PM   #113
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Can't believe this hasn't been posted.

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Old 04-18-2019, 09:30 AM   #114
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Bc it sucks, that’s why. More recoil for minimal performance increase from modern 9mm and I shot it for years... when .40 glocks started having major problems in my area, we started switching over to 9mm and .45.
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Old 04-18-2019, 10:25 AM   #115
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I just want the 40S&W cartridge to become as cheap as everyone thinks the pistols are.
Well.....as of at least 2018, several Federal Agencies were still getting millions in contracts fill ed for 40 S&W ammo stockpiles.

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https://www.guns.com/news/2018/02/13...-training-ammo

FBI
https://www.tactical-life.com/news/f...tion-contract/

With the multi-Millions spent on stockpiles during the Obama admin, i'm also waiting for a mass dump off.......
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Old 04-18-2019, 01:04 PM   #116
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Well.....as of at least 2018, several Federal Agencies were still getting millions in contracts fill ed for 40 S&W ammo stockpiles.

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https://www.guns.com/news/2018/02/13...-training-ammo

FBI
https://www.tactical-life.com/news/f...tion-contract/

With the multi-Millions spent on stockpiles during the Obama admin, i'm also waiting for a mass dump off.......
American Reloading sells tons of pulled HST projos in both 9mm and .40. Since the ammo is worth more as loaded ammo I highly suspect some of that Obama era ammo stockpile is being sold off as "surplus" but required to be demilled.
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Old 04-20-2019, 02:50 AM   #117
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40 was a solution to a problem that no longer exists with modern 9mm loads
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Old 04-20-2019, 06:29 AM   #118
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40 was a solution to a problem that no longer exists with modern 9mm loads
No. 9mm will always be 9mm. There is nothing wrong with it. Still, there are those of us who feel more confident in a round that starts out with a larger diameter than that, yet doesn't give up too much in the way of capacity. There is something to be said about having confidence in what you carry, and I simply feel more confident in the .40 S&W. Couple that with the fact that it slings a heavier, larger projectile faster than a 9mm, and I believe it to be an excellent option.

Modern 9mm hasn't been the solution to anything other than the shortcomings of not-so-modern 9mm. When compared to modern .40, or modern .45... It is still merely adequate.
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No. 9mm will always be 9mm. There is nothing wrong with it. Still, there are those of us who feel more confident in a round that starts out with a larger diameter than that, yet doesn't give up too much in the way of capacity.
*cough*

15 round .45 ACP that isn't huge in the hand ( yes, with 15 rounds of .45 in an all steel pistol, it is kinda heavy )


For inquiring minds, it's a Sarsilmaz K2/45
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Old 04-20-2019, 08:23 AM   #120
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I think the hate comes from the price of the ammo. I've also heard that it prematurely wears pistols down from the brute force the .40 kicks out, but I don't know if thats true from first hand exp. I used to own a .40 Glock 27, but I never fired it, unfortunately.

I have never even fired any pistol caliber besides 9mm and 9x18mak. I'd like to try out a .40 now that you brought it up. I have read from others that .40 keeps them from getting bored of the pistol, as it is snappy, and more fun to shoot than a 9MM.
I've got more than 20k rounds through several different G22 pistols. Haven't even changed the recoil springs. Not sure what your definition of premature is, but no signs of wear. Brute force? LOL
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Old 04-20-2019, 09:04 AM   #121
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I'm just going to say that shot placement means more than caliber when it comes to handguns.

Choose the caliber floats your boat and roll with it.

I will say though, I don't see many threads on "why do so many people hate 9mm/45ACP?".

You come here for some confirmation on your purchase OP?

If not, move on, and rock n' roll with your fortay.
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Old 04-20-2019, 09:17 AM   #122
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when .40 glocks started having major problems in my area, we started switching over to 9mm and .45.
That's what happens when you take a 9mm pistol, change the barrel and spring and...tah dah! New Glock 40.
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There's nothing wrong with 40s&w other than its cost and it's a fairly new round. If 40 was around for as long as 9mm and 45, people would love it. If 40 ammo cost as much or less than 9mm, people would love it. People who like a particular brand, platform, caliber, etc will for whatever reason feel the need to shit on everything else and discourage their fellow brethren in the gun community for their preference. Many in the gun community are a bunch of prima donnas who will always find something to talk shit about. Just how it is.

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Old 04-20-2019, 09:38 AM   #124
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it's just the 'in' thing to hate on .40 right now. I remember several years ago, most everyone was drooling over it, including the FBI. for whatever reason, everyone just jumps on the bandwagon when someone makes a judgment call on it. personally, I much prefer it over 9mm. it is, without a doubt, a superior round. now, if you're reading this, and have a different opinion, I don't really care. you're entitled to that, just as I am. one thing 9mm does have going for it, is that it's very common, and less expensive. although, .40 is very affordable. If price and availability were not an object, I actually prefer the .357 sig over both of them. it basically gives you the 9mm bullet, with the powder charge of the .40 cal. unfortunately, the price is high, and availability isn't so good.
There it is right there....
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Old 04-20-2019, 02:55 PM   #125
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When I met my wife she carried her issued glock 22. I have a hard time getting her to shoot anything else.
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*cough*

15 round .45 ACP that isn't huge in the hand ( yes, with 15 rounds of .45 in an all steel pistol, it is kinda heavy )


For inquiring minds, it's a Sarsilmaz K2/45
I will admit that is interesting. But... It isn't on my employers list of approved on, or off duty weapons.
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I will admit that is interesting. But... It isn't on my employers list of approved on, or off duty weapons.
Perhaps you should submit it for inclusion?
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