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Old 04-11-2019, 11:34 PM   #1
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Default Preparing for the end.

Not the end of society, or... Your own personal end. Feeding the fish, or the worms whatever.

By a lousy Google search, average males in the U.S. Make it to 73.4 yo. I'm not sure I buy that number but it's good as any in this discussion.

Years ago, a friend of mine (we called him fat bastard) put life on a scale for me.

Grab a tape measure and roll it out to 73.

Now bend the tape measure over and set the D tip on the age you are on the measure.

The folded section is the life you have lived.

The remaining inches is the years you have left to live.

Kinda sucks to see it that way. But is an eye opener.

None of this considers family history, previous major medical problems, or just trying to live life in the fast lane.

This is only to remind some guys to do something to get your affairs in order ahead of time.

I only bring this up cause they making me up date my living trust and my will. And I did make a couple changes, so not all uncalled for.

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That reminds me. I need to make out a will (48 years old here).
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Old 04-12-2019, 12:07 PM   #3
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Live each day to the fullest.

Take care of your loved ones.

Let the winds of time take care of the rest.

None of us really know how long we have, so the tape measure shtick is misleading to say the least.
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I am planning on living to at least 175 years old, so right now I will just wait till I hit 174.
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According to the old Popular Science magazines from the 60's, we were all spposed to be cyborgs by now, with near infinite lifespans (and buzzing around in flying cars). I made my plans based on those articles.
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I plan on living forever.

So far, so good...
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My grandma died suddenly. No will, no listed beneficiaries, nothing. Her 8 kids tore each other to pieces over her small estate. No more family holidays and they all resent each other to this day.

Good advice, OP
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By a lousy Google search, average males in the U.S. Make it to 73.4
Yes with some demographics. But the trend is turning worst many people are having fatal heart attacks in early 50s

Everything is turning negative it seems like

Obesity is just ignored now

Drug overdoses/Pharmaceutical prescriptions Record high

Suicide Rate is at alarming trend and being ignored also

The cancer thing is just sad and frustrating

As for preparing for the end I don't have a answer

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My grandma died suddenly. No will, no listed beneficiaries, nothing. Her 8 kids tore each other to pieces over her small estate. No more family holidays and they all resent each other to this day............................................... .................................................. .............................

YEAH !!! I have seen a lot of that lately, money cuts a lot of family ties.
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I'm 60 and sudden fatal heart attacks run in the family, grandfather was a hard working farm man who dropped dead at 63 from a heart attack.

I figure I got less than 10 years left.
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My grandma died suddenly. No will, no listed beneficiaries, nothing. Her 8 kids tore each other to pieces over her small estate. No more family holidays and they all resent each other to this day.

Good advice, OP
Same thing happened in my family, except it was a rich, very rich Great Great-Aunt.
She had no children, her Estate was left as one huge Trust.
The family has battled each other over the money for years now.

Hasn't been a family gathering since.

The Attorneys just love it though.
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That mentioned type thing happens more often than not.

After gramps died, gramma asked me and a couple cousins how she should word her will. I've seen a couple families torn apart before and told gramma to include a statement that should anyone contest any part of the will then are excluded from it and anything that individual would receive goes into the estate. No one complained about the will when gramma passed. My aunt got most everything anyway and she deserved to. After gramps died she sold here house in big bear, and moved into grammar house to look after her for 15 or so years. So yeah, no problems from most of us.

Whole point of this thread isn't about being a fair of death, just trying to point out that death don't need to be a huge burden for those that have to deal with all the bullshit afterwards.

In my case it's fairly easy, my kid gets everything, cept for two that are pointed out and only significant to those two people aside from me.

I also have it stated what do with me when I'm gone. The VA will take care of that.

I'm going to cremated and my ashes spread at sea off a small ship with a really big gun on the front of it. For the one reason why, so those damn deck apes have to hold sweeper to clean the dead guy off the fantail before flight quarters.
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That reminds me. I need to make out a will (48 years old here).
Depending on your state laws, an Olographic Will is a great option if done properly.
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I'm 60 and sudden fatal heart attacks run in the family, grandfather was a hard working farm man who dropped dead at 63 from a heart attack.

I figure I got less than 10 years left.
I'd say start joggin but at 60, joint issues might develop.

An elliptical for ease on the joints, or a rower, you'll live alot longer getting that pumper working better.

Drink a 100oz of water a day also, you're going ot live a looooooong life Bill, but you are in control of it.

Low stress, don't smoke, good diet, good exercise, you'll live longer......
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Fuck it! Shit happens. When your time comes oh well! Life goes on.
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" Nothing lasts forever but the earth and sky . " Without googling it , what band sang that line ? Death = the final act in the play of life .
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Mom and Dad had a living trust, I don't know why since they had no major assets. When Dad died Mom got everything, when she passed the first trustee/executor was my older sister. Who lives in Tasmania! Needless to say that complicated matters, she flew home for a month and had to get everything done in that time frame.

Pretty simple will, liquidate everything and divide equally among 4 kids. We had no problem with that and we all pitched in but there were still arguments over insignificant crap. In the end it all worked out but the stress with a time limit wore on us.

Word of advice, pick an executor that is local! And give people the stuff you want them to have before you die, much simpler that way. I know we could all go tomorrow without warning, but when you can start to see the end coming it's time to start making things easier for those you leave behind.
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I've really been thinking a lot about death lately. I guess turning 48 has got me wondering about it. I'm Christian so there's that. But, I guess sometimes I just wonder at it all. It's all going by way to fast now. It was a slow burn for years but I'm a snowball rolling down hill now.
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My Maternal Grandfather died of injuries he received in a traffic accident - died in October 1968. His wife, my Maternal Grandmother, died in Texas in a vehicle roll over in April 1971. Out of My second family, (My closest friends in Life) the 33 year old son took a 44 Magnum and ventilated his skull with it in August 1997 in his parents drive way. The Mother died of a broken heart and the complications of Lupus in early 1998, and the Patriarch of that Family, died of Lung Cancer in mid 2000. On October 23 2001, in Smithfield Rhode Island the eldest son Randy, and my closest friend, was shot to death by a substance abuse addled co-worker. Unless you have worked in a Funeral Home, you have not had the depth of daily contact that I have had with the survivors of the dead, as my previous work in a Court House brought me into intimate detail with death on paper, and in person, for nigh on the past couple of decades.
One of the worst that I both read about and talked about with a relative was a man who was working on the ceiling of an old house in Plant City FL, and a Brown Recluse Spider fell out of the ceiling and bit him on the back of his neck, right over his spinal cord. Took him a year to die - a year of indescribable pain, and the relative explained to me that the last 30 days of the mans life that he was screaming in agony at the top of his lungs for 30 whole days.
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In September 2001, almost a month to the day after my best friend was murdered, then one of the Army Recruiters I once worked with in Nebraska, by the name of Robert McMurray, shot himself to death.
In mid 2002, an acquaintance of mine, living in Colorado, shot himself to death because his wife had decided to leave him and move to California.
There are other friends and cousins who have passed, that I will not mention.
In March of this year (2019) - had two cousins pass away here in Polk County.
Have seen, and read of, many people passing.
I have seen my share of people passing.

Shall I mention this: The Book, states that it is Appointed; both to be Born, and to Die.
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Friend of mine bought a new beach house and found an underground metal bunker underneath it. it looks like ot has been there since WWII. He is trying to get it redone, i'd say thats a good way to prepare for the end game.
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Dang, I was simply trying to make it simpler on the people that have to clean up all my junk once I'm gone.

And I don't plan on that being anytime soon, then again, neither did most anyone else.
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I've really been thinking a lot about death lately. I guess turning 48 has got me wondering about it. I'm Christian so there's that. But, I guess sometimes I just wonder at it all. It's all going by way to fast now. It was a slow burn for years but I'm a snowball rolling down hill now.
Just turned 40 last month and am the same way, maybe itís my mid life crisis. Then again my mind has taken a dgaf attitude lately as well, I was the one sitting at the table laughing after everyone else dove under it because it sounded like we were getting shelled (turned out to be thunder) and almost got shot several times the other day but was completely calm about it even as spalling and gravel was hitting me. I have had that weird mindset and have always been a Christian, but lately I have been more curious about the word. In the end I canít control it though, so thatís aggravating.
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It gets so exhausting always thinking of my mortality .
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It feels like I went from 44 to 64 in a flash.
I think the remainder will go faster. whoo-hoo!
I think I'll hire a personal trainer when I turn 80, she will have me
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Dang, I was simply trying to make it simpler on the people that have to clean up all my junk once I'm gone.

And I don't plan on that being anytime soon, then again, neither did most anyone else.
I'm like yu don't want to leave a mess for anyone to clean up. Been working on it for last couple of months. My parents will be leaving my sister and me a mess, they don't care, and have not done any planning. I won't be like them.
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Been pretty lucky all my life as I never lost anyone really close until my Grandma died a few years ago. Then just last month my Dad...that hurt, still does. It has got me thinking about about own end though & preparing for it for the sake of others.
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Most depressing thread ever!! It is definitely something to consider though, no doubt.
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Never feared death or anything really. Honestly havent cared much about where I end up in the end either. The only concern I have ever had is my children dying before me. Thats the only thing I have ever feared.
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Most depressing thread ever!! It is definitely something to consider though, no doubt.
The sooner you are comfortable with dying you can really start living, you know what is important and what is superficial and valueless
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Retired a couple of years ago, will be 69 in a month.
Wife & I paid to have all the will/estate/HIPPA/ Power of atty stuff done when I retired, so that is taken care of.
Made arrangements & got paperwork from the local VA cemetery for my resting place.
House is paid off.
Two adult children will be OK now.
I am selling off everything I don’t use any more. Sold most of my guns, motorcycles, some tools, electronics, etc.
Don’t want the family to have deal with any of it.
Have been trying to get in better shape so I might run out the clock a bit.
Lost 27 lbs. so far, about 50 more to go.
Wife is 5 years younger than me, but has no interest in her health.
My dad died @ 42, 5 packs a day - lung cancer.
Mother was an alcoholic, made it to 60.
I don’t smoke or drink, (wonder why).
Am trying to get the most out of the time I have remaining, to many of my friends passed before retiring or just after.
In a month, going to try to do one thing I have always wanted, driving the RV to Alaska for the Summer. Going by myself, wife can’t retire until 2023, can’t take that much vacation, and I am not waiting for her!
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Small point about life expectancy. Most of the time people quote the figure for life expectancy at birth. The older you get, the higher your left expectancy goes, because everyone who died younger than you gets removed from the average.

As an extreme example, when you see a life expectancy in the 30s for people in ancient times, that didn't mean it was like Logan's Run back then with everyone dying at 30. What actually happened was infant mortality brought the average life expectancy down significantly (and still does). If you made it to 30 in ancient times, you'd probably make it at least to your 60s.
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Retired a couple of years ago, will be 69 in a month.
Wife & I paid to have all the will/estate/HIPPA/ Power of atty stuff done when I retired, so that is taken care of.
Made arrangements & got paperwork from the local VA cemetery for my resting place.
House is paid off.
Two adult children will be OK now.
I am selling off everything I don’t use any more. Sold most of my guns, motorcycles, some tools, electronics, etc.
Don’t want the family to have deal with any of it.
Have been trying to get in better shape so I might run out the clock a bit.
Lost 27 lbs. so far, about 50 more to go.
Wife is 5 years younger than me, but has no interest in her health.
My dad died @ 42, 5 packs a day - lung cancer.
Mother was an alcoholic, made it to 60.
I don’t smoke or drink, (wonder why).
Am trying to get the most out of the time I have remaining, to many of my friends passed before retiring or just after.
In a month, going to try to do one thing I have always wanted, driving the RV to Alaska for the Summer. Going by myself, wife can’t retire until 2023, can’t take that much vacation, and I am not waiting for her!
If it weren't for the selling off extra toys part, I would have thought my Dad somehow found his way to this forum lmao, even the part about lung cancer and drinking. One of the reasons he quit way back and I have never picked it up. All of the men on my Dads side of our family it seems die in their 40s or 50s from lung cancer if they smoke. He is turning 68 this fall and is healthy as a horse thankfully. In the last year or two, he updated his living will to express his wishes, executor etc. He sent me a copy since he named me the executor and it definitely makes you think about life when reading through something like that.
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Retired a couple of years ago, will be 69 in a month.
Wife & I paid to have all the will/estate/HIPPA/ Power of atty stuff done when I retired, so that is taken care of.
Made arrangements & got paperwork from the local VA cemetery for my resting place.
House is paid off.
Two adult children will be OK now.
I am selling off everything I donít use any more. Sold most of my guns, motorcycles, some tools, electronics, etc.
Donít want the family to have deal with any of it.
Have been trying to get in better shape so I might run out the clock a bit.
Lost 27 lbs. so far, about 50 more to go.
Wife is 5 years younger than me, but has no interest in her health.
My dad died @ 42, 5 packs a day - lung cancer.
Mother was an alcoholic, made it to 60.
I donít smoke or drink, (wonder why).
Am trying to get the most out of the time I have remaining, to many of my friends passed before retiring or just after.
In a month, going to try to do one thing I have always wanted, driving the RV to Alaska for the Summer. Going by myself, wife canít retire until 2023, canít take that much vacation, and I am not waiting for her!
My dream trip, I have the RV, but at 56 I have to wait at least till 62 too hit the road.
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