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Old 12-05-2017, 02:31 AM   #1
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Default Are the PSA CHF uppers availability more spotty?

I have been following PSA's inventory for their uppers, specifically for their CHF uppers, for the last few months. Recently been checking several times a day and still haven't seen any available in stock. Is it always like this or is PSA posting fewer and fewer for sale and longer inbetween offerings?
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Old 12-05-2017, 02:47 AM   #2
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http://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-1...ng-handle.html

There's one in the daily deals now.
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Old 12-05-2017, 08:08 AM   #3
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http://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-1...ng-handle.html

There's one in the daily deals now.
Thanks for posting. If it was a mid length gas, I'd jump on it. Not a big fan of the carbine gas on a 16". Happy to see they still seem to be posting the CHF uppers.
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That CHF carbine gas length upper seems to be in stock every time I check (every six months)
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I don't know what's the big deal about chf when regular PSA uppers are in the $160 ballpark. Just get 2 if you want longer life.
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I don't know what's the big deal about chf when regular PSA uppers are in the $160 ballpark. Just get 2 if you want longer life.
LMAO I never thought about that, solid idea!
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Found FN CHF 5.56 16" mid-length barrels one sale for $199. Just going to go that route instead and build it since it seems PSA only has the carbine gas in stock for now. Also allow me to build the upper as a free float right from the start.

https://www.righttobear.com/FN-Ameri...-16lw-m240.htm


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I don't know what's the big deal about chf when regular PSA uppers are in the $160 ballpark. Just get 2 if you want longer life.
Because that FN barrel is a proven design that will last a long time. Read some of Battlefield Las Vegas' comments regarding the AR15 and the FN barrels (PSA AR15 CHF uppers) and how well they do. Best bang for the buck in many ways.
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Found FN CHF 5.56 16" mid-length barrels one sale for $199. Just going to go that route instead and build it since it seems PSA only has the carbine gas in stock for now. Also allow me to build the upper as a free float right from the start.

https://www.righttobear.com/FN-Ameri...-16lw-m240.htm
That's a really good price on that barrel. If it had the FSB on it, I'd snag one for sure
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That's a really good price on that barrel. If it had the FSB on it, I'd snag one for sure
An AR15 FSB is $25-30. So shouldn't affect the deal much.
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An AR15 FSB is $25-30. So shouldn't affect the deal much.
But you have to have it put on. Most places charge about 70 bucks to have one put on
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But you have to have it put on. Most places charge about 70 bucks to have one put on
Just do it yourself, not hard at all. Costs about $0, just takes a little bit of time, 10-15 minutes.


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Just do it yourself, not hard at all. Costs about $0, just takes a little bit of time, 10-15 minutes.


I can't tell if the barrel he is using has the grooves cut for the taper pins. Every barrel I have ever seen with those FSB has grooves. My guess is the barrels linked above do not have the grooves. Therefore, they need to be cut. I will not get into that.
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Just do it yourself, not hard at all. Costs about $0, just takes a little bit of time, 10-15 minutes.


That's what I did with my premium PSA upper. Got a 16" middy FN.CHF upper with standard a2 front sight. Just shaved down the front sight block, cut off the delta ring assembly and put a fortis rev II 14.5" m-lok handguard direct to the factory barrel nut. Plus the shaved down A2 is not ever going to go anywhere with double pins holding it in place. Trust me, if I can do it, ANYONE can.
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Because that FN barrel is a proven design that will last a long time. Read some of Battlefield Las Vegas' comments regarding the AR15 and the FN barrels (PSA AR15 CHF uppers) and how well they do. Best bang for the buck in many ways.
Yeh- the recommendation of buying 2 for one is asinine. I would way rather buy the best rather than effing around like that.
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Yeh- the recommendation of buying 2 for one is asinine. I would way rather buy the best rather than effing around like that.
Exactly. Not like these PSA FN CHF CL uppers break the bank when PSA has deals on them or just get the FN mid-length barrel for $200 and build your own upper exactly like you want it. Current pricing isn't cost prohibitive to get top quality. Time to take advantage imo.
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An AR15 FSB is $25-30. So shouldn't affect the deal much.
There are some on EBay and running around $26.
Still deciding what to do with this BCA barrel I got for Veteran's day.
I did go looking around the PSA website last night matter of fact. Gave serious thought to one of their complete uppers for a cheap build until I saw it was 1/7 and my build is going to have dropping coyotes in mind. Don't want to get into the twist rate arguments today, but I'm just used to 1/9 and everything I have is 1/9. Using the 45gr HPs is also on the list since I have a lot of those as well.

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Not a big fan of the carbine gas on a 16".
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Why?
Just personal preference. On 16" I like mid-length the best.
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Just personal preference. On 16" I like mid-length the best.
Okay. Somehow I was thinking there might be more to that like less carbon fouling or using lighter buffers or something.
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Okay. Somehow I was thinking there might be more to that like less carbon fouling or using lighter buffers or something.
Just from shooting both the mid-length has a recoil impulse similar to the rifle length. The mid-length is also supposedly more realiable due to the reduce cyclic rate of fire. The carbine gas system slams the carrier back faster with a higher impulse with hotter and higher pressure gas. That harsh cycle can result and lead to faster wear and tear. The mid-length supposedly pushes the carrier back more gently with cooler and lower pressure gas. I say supposedly because that is what I have read and I have never tested it nor have the ability to gather data on the temp and pressure of the gas. But it makes sense to me. I also like the look of the mid length gas on a 16" better. Personal preference.
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Kinda makes sense to me as well now you've mentioned it. I guess that's why I run the heavy buffers in all of mine (since they are carbine length gas).
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Here’s one on sale:

http://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-1...ng-handle.html
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I have two PSA guns, a midlength and an 18" rifle length gas. I have no doubt the PSA CHF barrels are better, but to what degree, and will the average person benefit from it? I'd say no. Nothing wrong with buying a CHF upper for a higher price, but I didn't hesitate to buy mine without it.

My carbine is 13 years old, and still has the same barrel, and even has the dreaded semi-auto bolt carrier, another thing the internet says will get you killed. That bolt carrier is all original except for a gas ring change once. Same firing pin, same cam pin, same everything. I have no idea how many thousands of rounds I've shot over the years, yet it keeps chugging along. It's my go to AR because I've had so much experience with it, and totally trust it.

My midlength is slightly softer shooting than my carbine, but not dramatically so. Shit, my 7.5" pistol is pretty soft shooting once I put an adjustable gas block on it. Shoots like a carbine now. My 18" is noticeably softer than the others, but it's a 18" and rifle gas length.
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Yep. Another 1/7 twist too
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To compare, this stripped barreled upper is $329. I paid $349 shipped for my non-CHF rifle kit. It came with a LPK, the BCG and charging handle, the buffer tube, buffer and spring, plus Magpul furniture.

If one really doesn't need the more expensive barrel, you can save a lot. If you think you will need the better barrel, than get that.
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Are FN CHF CL barrels match grade barrels with 1/2 MOA? No. Are they a fighting barrel that will last you a lifetime and +20,000 rounds? Yes. Is it accurate enough? Yes, plenty. I wanted a FN barrel upper because I've always wanted one. For a $350 PSA upper or a straight FN barrel for $200, that is a lot of quality for the money. Just depends what you want. If you want some stainless steel barrel to shoot paper targets off a bench rest or prairie dogs, do it. I wanted a fighting barrel for a fighting rifle.
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I have a PSA PA-10 with 18" CHF chrome lined barrel and rifle length gas system. PSA has only had this barrel/gas system combo available a couple times all year. I'm not sure why. I know I paid considerably more for it than the nitride or SS uppers but I wanted the CHF chrome lined barrel. I've had it since January and have yet to put a scope on it and shoot.
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