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Old 08-17-2018, 07:06 PM   #71
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Mix a small amount of 30% Mineral spirits with BLO. It will clean it right up.
That's the way I'm leaning. I've cleaned some pretty nasty FAL buttstock with straight BLO before. Try a small spot on the bottom first or get a nasty used stock for some trial and error. I know it's an oil finish underneath just want to make sure I don't miss it up.
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Old 08-18-2018, 10:34 AM   #72
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The first couple of coats (mineral spirit BLO) I use 0000 steel wool lightly to clean. Rub off immediately with a paper towel. Then use straight BLO by hand (no steel wool) on the next couple of coats. Leave each coat on about 20 to 30 minutes then wipe off the excess.
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Wipe it down with raw linseed oil, it's what was used on USGI rifle stocks since the 1700's up until the m14.


What you want is flaxseed oil from the healthfood store, it's true RLO, fatty acids and all which is what gives USGI stocks that reddish color with time, RLO from the store may have the fatty acids removed, wipe the rifle down with it, then take a swig for yourself, it's good for both of you.
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Old 08-19-2018, 08:12 PM   #74
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Here's a little something while you wait. Careful though, Garands can be very addictive.
That’s a very nice collection. Beautiful rifles!
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Old 08-21-2018, 10:35 AM   #75
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Here's a little something while you wait. Careful though, Garands can be very addictive.





I haven’t personally found this to be true, tho the Garand was what originally got me into Milsurp rifles... Now Lee Enfield No4’s, they’re addictive!
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I haven’t personally found this to be true, tho the Garand was what originally got me into Milsurp rifles... Now Lee Enfield No4’s, they’re addictive!
Perhaps you have an immunity to Garanditis but it hit me pretty hard. 23 rifles at one time but with expanding interests in other areas I was able to get it under control and now have only 3. Serious sellers remorse on several I let go but the ones that survived the cut were real keepers. A very nice 5.8M Springfield with exceptional GI wood, a correct H&R with grenade accessories and a Cerakoted SA mixmaster .308 I built that seems to be my current goto rifle when I need a Garand fix. Last outing with it, I went 7 for 8 on a 12 steel plate at 400 meters using Portuguese ball. Doesn't get much better than that....for me anyway.

def90, Congrats on your first CMP Garand. Looks like luck of the draw was kind to you and that one will clean up nicely with just a little effort.





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Perhaps you have an immunity to Garanditis but it hit me pretty hard. 23 rifles at one time but with expanding interests in other areas I was able to get it under control and now have only 3. Serious sellers remorse on several I let go but the ones that survived the cut were real keepers. A very nice 5.8M Springfield with exceptional GI wood, a correct H&R with grenade accessories and a Cerakoted SA mixmaster .308 I built that seems to be my current goto rifle when I need a Garand fix. Last outing with it, I went 7 for 8 on a 12 steel plate at 400 meters using Portuguese ball. Doesn't get much better than that....for me anyway.

def90, Congrats on your first CMP Garand. Looks like luck of the draw was kind to you and that one will clean up nicely with just a little effort.





Part of it for me is they just aren’t worth the cost... The CMP rifles are appropriately priced and really the only place anyone should get them from. (Mine is a CMP service grade mixmaster and a great shooter.) But I laugh when I see a wall of Garand’s all going for $1200+. Garands aren’t rare, and based on current availability are far easier to find than Lee Enfield’s, many variations of Mosin rifles, Mauser’s, and even K31’s, all of which go for significantly less. It’s another example of “Ooh... ‘Mercia!!!”

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Old 08-23-2018, 07:54 PM   #78
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Yall got me fired up,wanting a garand
Would it be better at gun show or chance cmp
Looks like 90 did well my luck not that good
What about headspace checking who needs to,insure that
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Old 08-23-2018, 09:05 PM   #79
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Sigh. I really need one of these.
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Old 08-23-2018, 09:27 PM   #80
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Part of it for me is they just aren’t worth the cost... The CMP rifles are appropriately priced and really the only place anyone should get them from. (Mine is a CMP service grade mixmaster and a great shooter.) But I laugh when I see a wall of Garand’s all going for $1200+. Garands aren’t rare, and based on current availability are far easier to find than Lee Enfield’s, many variations of Mosin rifles, Mauser’s, and even K31’s, all of which go for significantly less. It’s another example of “Ooh... ‘Mercia!!!”
Yep, that's why I went the CMP route. These things have been rebuilt and honestly the parts have been mixed up enough in the process that they are really not more than a kit gun. Guys will get CMP rifles and flip them on the market for a couple hundred or simply switch one or two parts for another hundred or two on top of that. I still look at the Garands at the gun show at the Garand specialists booths and can't help but walk away feeling g like I just got screwed by a used car salesman in a 70's liesure suit.
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Well you did well we going to look at some this weekend
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Yall got me fired up,wanting a garand
Would it be better at gun show or chance cmp
Looks like 90 did well my luck not that good
What about headspace checking who needs to,insure that
Go the CMP route... Otherwise you’ll overpay. A few stinkers get thru but my rifles and most of the ones I’ve ever heard about from the CMP and in better condition than their grading indicates.
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Yep, that's why I went the CMP route. These things have been rebuilt and honestly the parts have been mixed up enough in the process that they are really not more than a kit gun. Guys will get CMP rifles and flip them on the market for a couple hundred or simply switch one or two parts for another hundred or two on top of that. I still look at the Garands at the gun show at the Garand specialists booths and can't help but walk away feeling g like I just got screwed by a used car salesman in a 70's liesure suit.
CMP is the only way to go IMO... The flipping annoys me because I think that’s what has driven Garand prices higher than they should be by taking advantage of an ignorant public.

On a side note, I do think the accuracy reputation of the Garand is vastly overstated. Yes, they’re accurate battle rifles for the time, but often less accurate than comparable K98’s, 1903’s, and especially K31’s. People lose sight of what the average Garand issued during WWII is actually capable of because of competitions where the rifles have been accurized and are using National Match parts. The reality is it’s violent action and thin barrel don’t lend itself well to accuracy on a mass production scale.
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Use a new op rod spring so it doesn't get beat up.

Replace it every 2000 rounds.
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guess I missed it, but havnt noticed anyone speaking of price for these from cmp?
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guess I missed it, but havnt noticed anyone speaking of price for these from cmp?
They vary depending on grade as you would expect. I paid about $700 for my service grade.

Look here...

https://thecmp.org/cmp_sales/rifle_sales/m1-garand/
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In my post I stated that mine was a Service Grade at $750 delivered.
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Yep, that's why I went the CMP route. These things have been rebuilt and honestly the parts have been mixed up enough in the process that they are really not more than a kit gun. Guys will get CMP rifles and flip them on the market for a couple hundred or simply switch one or two parts for another hundred or two on top of that. I still look at the Garands at the gun show at the Garand specialists booths and can't help but walk away feeling g like I just got screwed by a used car salesman in a 70's liesure suit.
Way back, M1 Garand's were not easy to get, when the DCM was selling them and you just didn't see them in the gun stores. M1 carbines were much more common. The above is the basic reason why I never really got into the collecting of M1 Garand's, M1 Carbines or even 1911's and A1's. Most of these US weapons were rebuilt at least once in their service life. I would say most of the "factory original" "as issued" M1 Garand's, M1 Carbines, and also 1911's that you see are refurbished and "restored" to that condition by the modern owners . I have seen this done and only a true expert can tell the difference.


The CMP is a good place to get M1 Garand's, gun shows, not so much. There is a lot of fakery and restored guns out there. I just shake my head at those that buy a M1 with a WWII receiver but rebuilt post war and then go and try to restore it to WWII as issued condition. There are people that buy CMP M1's just to break them down and sell the parts, it is like a hobby and side business for them.
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Question for you guys on ordering from CMP.

I joined the GCA for my club affiliation, so now how do I prove my participation in a marksmanship activity?


I do have a lifetime hunting permit for my state. Does that qualify?


What did you guys use for that requirement?
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Question for you guys on ordering from CMP.

I joined the GCA for my club affiliation, so now how do I prove my participation in a marksmanship activity?


I do have a lifetime hunting permit for my state. Does that qualify?


What did you guys use for that requirement?
They have a list of things that qualify as shooting experience on their site. Some of those things are a match results card, a concealed carry license, a hunters ed course certificate and so on.

I used my ccw.

http://thecmp.org/cmp_sales/rifle_sa...-requirements/

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Question for you guys on ordering from CMP.

I joined the GCA for my club affiliation, so now how do I prove my participation in a marksmanship activity?


I do have a lifetime hunting permit for my state. Does that qualify?


What did you guys use for that requirement?
My Texas License to Carry(concealed handgun permit) qualified me.

From the CMP

http://thecmp.org/cmp_sales/rifle_sa...-requirements/
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Question for you guys on ordering from CMP.

I joined the GCA for my club affiliation, so now how do I prove my participation in a marksmanship activity?


I do have a lifetime hunting permit for my state. Does that qualify?


What did you guys use for that requirement?
I’m military so I just included a photocopy of my ID. There’s a list of acceptable proofs on the CMP site. You’re best bet is to go to the site and look for yourself. If you’re on this site asking chances are you are already qualified.
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Thanks a lot for the responses. I was figuring my Hunting Permit would be ok. It was over 20 years ago when I completed my course though and I am sure I don't have my original certificate anymore. I do have currently this years permit tags and whatnot.

I could use my DD214 also but I am not comfortable sending that out into the world.
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all explained here: http://thecmp.org/cmp_sales/rifle_sa...-requirements/
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In my post I stated that mine was a Service Grade at $750 delivered.
Well def90 I went to show and picked up,a win. Very reasonable I will try it tomm. To see how I did
It's clean all seems to work well I will know soon
Has stock like yours not new cmp thanks for your help
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Have Fun, they are an awesome ,powerful, LOUD rifle to fire. Big Fun!!!. Hold her in firmly to your shoulder and squeeze
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