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Old 12-09-2017, 01:44 AM   #1
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in standard 7.62x39mm, what is the best loading for whitetail and boar one could buy
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Old 12-09-2017, 02:08 AM   #2
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Old 12-09-2017, 02:09 AM   #3
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Old 12-09-2017, 02:13 AM   #4
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This guy used 8M3 hollow-points on hogs -- "they dropped on the spot".
They *are* a fragmenting round -- several pieces to dig out of your meat...
You will have to do your due-diligence to avoid cycling issues with some mags/guns.

http://www.sgammo.com/product/tula/1...-grain-hollow-
point-ammo-made-ulyanovsk-cartridge-works-ul0

I don't know why Golden Tiger FMJ's wouldn't be adequate, if you don't have bad-primer issues, which I would assume to be of negligible probabilty especially for hunting.
It tumbles, not fragments.
http://www.sgammo.com/product/golden...in-russian-amm

Hornady SST should be adequate, but more expensive.

Wolf military classic hp's would probably be fine.

I never planned to type in this much...I have only recently started
looking at some of the ammo-intricacies. So I am not the expert -- DISCLAIMER !
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Some say silver-bear hp's would a no-no (and likewise for Tula regular hp's). I am not convinced yet that these wouldn't work in real muscle/bones/flesh....
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Old 12-09-2017, 02:18 AM   #6
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in standard 7.62x39mm, what is the best loading for whitetail and boar one could buy
A controlled expansion soft point like Federal Fusion or better yet something loaded with a monolithic hollowpoint such as Winchester Razor Boar XT or Double Taps 7.62x39 Ammunition. Loads such as these are designed specifically for game such as deer and hogs.
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Old 12-09-2017, 02:50 AM   #7
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Wrong. Boars have an armor shield that humans of course do not. You need a round with better penetration, like a soft point round, that will be able to penetrate the shield much better. Yes, 8M3can get the job done, but it still won't have the amount of deep penetration the soft point round does.

Tula 154gr soft point is the round the OP is looking for or even better, the Federal Fusion soft point round.
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Old 12-09-2017, 02:55 AM   #8
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Hornady sst, or the federal fusion loadings. I wouldn't use 8m3 on any animals you want to eat, it is a pretty radically destructive load on tissue. American made soft points and polymer tips work well at expansion but the Russian hollow points not including 8m3 act a lot like fmj, and I don't trust non expanding bullets for ethical kills. American loadings are a little more expensive but you aren't doing mag dumps of SST at whitetail so the additional cost isn't bad.
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Old 12-09-2017, 03:04 AM   #9
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I'd probably got for the SST or something with the Barnes TSX.

I don't trust cheap softpoint ammo to not just call to pieces and underpenetrate. Especially not with a pissed off pig.
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Old 12-09-2017, 06:19 AM   #10
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Hornsby SST is going to be the best best
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Old 12-09-2017, 08:41 AM   #11
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Hornady SST or Federal Fusion
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Old 12-09-2017, 09:40 AM   #12
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Another vote for SST or Fusion, although if trying to preserve meat on a white tail, I would go with the Fusion. For destructive purposes, SST.
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Old 12-09-2017, 10:11 AM   #13
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For hogs I can definitely recommend Winchester "Hog Special" in 7.62x39. https://www.academy.com/shop/pdp/win...fle-ammunition

I've taken some decent sized hogs with it. A well placed shot with that round means they are not going very far.
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Old 12-09-2017, 10:39 AM   #14
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For hogs I can definitely recommend Winchester "Hog Special" in 7.62x39. https://www.academy.com/shop/pdp/win...fle-ammunition

I've taken some decent sized hogs with it. A well placed shot with that round means they are not going very far.
Seconded. I also load this into a Ruger ranch 7.62 x 39 for brush deer shots. Works great.
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Old 12-09-2017, 10:48 AM   #15
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When I lived in WV I used Hornady SST with good effect on hogs.
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Old 12-09-2017, 01:21 PM   #16
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I use Silver Bear soft points if I'm hunting deer. I'll use SST's or 8m3 on hogs.
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Old 12-09-2017, 01:47 PM   #17
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A soft point or other bullet designed for hunting are best on deer.

From personal experience the 154 grain wolf expand poorly at longer ranges past 200 yards and accuracy is poor.

If I had to buy I'd look ad federal soft points or hornady.

A big Boar might be better to choose a more solid bullet but pigs are not bullet proof to any 7.62x39.
Shot a lot with M1 carbine back in the day. 357 mag as well.

Some states don't allow FMJ.
hollow points are not idea .

There is a reason hunters have been using jacketed soft points in 30 cal rifles since the advent of the 30-30 in rounds running from about 1900 fps on up at impact.

Yea yea yea FMJ kills deer there not the best choice.

A good box of ammo is not to expensive for the few shots you shoot at deer or pigs when hunting.

The old PPC soft point was accurate and expanded well if you can find it.
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Old 12-09-2017, 06:09 PM   #18
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If you are preserving meat, go with federal or maybe Hornady

When it just needs to die go 8m3
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Old 12-09-2017, 08:35 PM   #19
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No pigs to shoot here but anyone use the old white box LCB 8HP Russian ammo on pigs?
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Another vote for Hornady
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Old 12-09-2017, 09:00 PM   #21
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No pigs to shoot here but anyone use the old white box LCB 8HP Russian ammo on pigs?
Nope but 154 SP works very well. 0-125 M pretty much hits poa as the 123-124 gr stuff.
Aim for the head, works every time.
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Tulammo 154gr SP
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Old 12-10-2017, 11:05 AM   #24
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Hornady SST or something with a Barnes bullet would be my first bet.
Anything expanding or fragmenting should be sufficient though.
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I have some 150 something grain soft points.
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Old 12-10-2017, 11:45 AM   #26
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I was dissapointed with the performance of SST when I took a nice 8 last year. The penetration and damage weren’t what I expected.

I’m using my PAP M92 for alternative methods season later this month. I’m doing some accuracy testing today to see if Fusion or SST shoots better out of this particular rifle. While I’d prefer to just use Fusion, I’m going to go with the most accurate round.

Have heard good things about the 154gr Tula.
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I've dropped 2 wild boars using Remington soft points. They both were trotting but fell over dead with one shot hitting at the top of front shoulder. The biggest boar was 250 lb., shown below, Jan 04 2017.

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As others have said, Hornady SST. When you're not hunting with it, it can work well as a home defense round were you to grab your AK for that purpose.
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To all the people recommending SST have you guys actually shot it on paper? I bought a box to use a few years ago for white tail and when I went to sight it in I couldn't get it to group any better than 5 inches at 50 yards. Shoot way higher than wolf as well. Normally my WASR groups less than 2 inches with crappy wolf at that distance. Does Hornady load them with .308 diameter bullets or something?
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To all the people recommending SST have you guys actually shot it on paper? I bought a box to use a few years ago for white tail and when I went to sight it in I couldn't get it to group any better than 5 inches at 50 yards. Shoot way higher than wolf as well. Normally my WASR groups less than 2 inches with crappy wolf at that distance. Does Hornady load them with .308 diameter bullets or something?
This is common with factory ammo. You will never know how well it will shoot in your rifle until you shoot them.

When a person reloads they do the testing to find an acceptable load for their rifle. Do the same development in a different rifle and it might not shoot well at all.
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Hornady 7.62x39 ammo has been a disappointment to a lot of shooters with AK rifles .
Not sure why its not that hard to bet the factory steel crap accuracy wise
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Lol you can use cheap tula 123grain fmj and it'll drop a hog on the spot done it plenty of times.
No need for expensive hp.

Hogs have much thicker skin than most animals thus some hp are not as effective on them as compared to deer.

If you wanna save meat and want a quick kill aim right at the ear or right behind.

I've taken out big hogs 300+lbs with 5.45x39 to not worry about a kill with 7.62x39.

The only hard part hunting hogs is hitting them when they start to run lol then the fun begins.

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To all the people recommending SST have you guys actually shot it on paper? I bought a box to use a few years ago for white tail and when I went to sight it in I couldn't get it to group any better than 5 inches at 50 yards. Shoot way higher than wolf as well. Normally my WASR groups less than 2 inches with crappy wolf at that distance. Does Hornady load them with .308 diameter bullets or something?
Nutnfancy got as good of groups with SST as any other ammo, in the below vid:
See 30:23 of the below vid:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RDslnkFjJA
FWIW.....
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Old 12-13-2017, 11:49 PM   #34
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Hornsby SST nothing but the best.
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Old 12-14-2017, 01:16 PM   #35
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16" barrel I would go SST if your gun likes it, or Fusion. Last couple boxes of SST I bought were a little disappointing accuracy wise though, compared to Golden Tiger or Fiocchi that I had on hand.

SBR or pistol type I would do the same or the 154 SP wolf if it groups well, depending on distance it will be used for. The 154gr wolf only groups well in my RPK, or in the 9" pistol I used to have, my 16" barelled stuff didn't shoot it well at all for whatever reason.


In all honesty I would prefer something bigger for hogs if you've got some big ones in your area, an M76 or M77, or even PSL would be nice. all nice calibers that will have good hunting ammo options available, easier to bring enough gun than not enough.



Partially on topic, anybody reload their own hunting 7.62x39? I was thinking of giving it a shot. Any good recipes would be nice, since there aren't a ton of decent hunting loads in this caliber that aren't underperformers or expensive.
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