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Old 12-10-2017, 12:21 AM   #1
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Hello! I am a first time AK owner and I am needing some tips or a good AK mechanic to help me get the little plunger that holds the slant cut muzzle adapter in the correct orientation unstuck. It is all the way in.
I am some what mechanically inclined so I am willing to give it a go with some good instructions but if all else fails, a good gun will do too. I am located a “little west of weird” just outside of Austin.
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Old 12-10-2017, 01:13 AM   #2
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What kind of AK is it?

You might have residual cosmoline stuck around the detent pin and its spring. Try and spray a little bit of degreaser around the detent pin.

If that doesnt work try some heat.

Take it to the range and run a few mags through it without the muzzle device attached and see if the the detent pin pops back out.
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Old 12-10-2017, 01:17 AM   #3
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Front pin B keeps it retained.

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Old 12-10-2017, 02:18 AM   #4
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Retaining pin "B" is tapered? Only goes in, one way? Out the opposite way?

My SAR-1 needs one of these. Someday. Maybe. It'd be nice to have a brake or nut, maybe.
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Old 12-10-2017, 02:23 AM   #5
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Do it....i waited years to thread my SAR-1's barrel. No reason really, and after i did it, I was quite pleased to have that little bit of added something.
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Old 12-10-2017, 02:41 AM   #6
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It is a Norinco MAK90. If pin B is tapered, does it drive out from the ejection port side or the other?
I have had it soaking in some PB Blaster for almost 24hours. I will go shoot today and see if by chance it pops out.
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Old 12-10-2017, 08:34 AM   #7
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Detent pin on a MAK? That's odd.

Pins are not tapered. Doesn't really matter which direction to drive them, none that I've seen anyways. Be warned, some pins can be very difficult to break free. Best to take a regular nail-set and turn or grind the first 1/4" or so small enough to work, then finish with regular pin punch. Normal pin punches usually aren't strong enough to get the pins started in my experience.
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Old 12-10-2017, 09:09 AM   #8
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I am also a AK newby but maybe there is a burr in front sight block? If all else fails maybe a jam washer and a touch of blue lock tight?
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Cut a pin punch down to almost nothing so it dosent bend.
Hit it hard the first time.
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Old 12-10-2017, 01:25 PM   #10
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Well I went and shot it for the first time and the recoil was way less than I thought it would be. Amazing even with the under folding stock it has on it. The cleaning rod jumped out after the 4th shot but it ran beautifully. The trigger was excellent! I can see why AK owners love this gun.
The little pin never popped out so I stopped at the Depot and picked up a set of nail punches, knocked the “B” pin out, but still part “A” is stuck. I have it sitting in my cup of penetrating oil and will play with it some more in an hour or two. Would hitting it with some heat help?

Thanks again for the tips, especially the nail punch trick.
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Old 12-10-2017, 01:33 PM   #11
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Try pushing it in more and then tapping the side if it with a soft hammer. Repeat as long as it takes to get free enough for a set of needle nose to grab the tip and work it back and forth that way.
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Old 12-10-2017, 01:35 PM   #12
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Try pushing it in more and then tapping the side if it with a soft hammer. Repeat as long as it takes to get free enough for a set of needle nose to grab the tip and work it back and forth that way.
Thanks Chillypepper, I will give that a go
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Retaining pin "B" is tapered? Only goes in, one way? Out the opposite way?

My SAR-1 needs one of these. Someday. Maybe. It'd be nice to have a brake or nut, maybe.
"Someday"? This should be mandatory.
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Underfolding stock you say? Does it indeed say MAK-90 on the receiver? If so, someone has converted a MAK to pre-ban configuration. Which is cool, the work has been done for you. If not, you have a much more desirable pre-ban rifle.

Try what chilli said, see if you can get it to move fore and aft to help free it. Once you removed the pin, nothing else is holding the detent. Well, except cosmo or rust or maybe broken spring.

We love pictures around here, show us your rifle already!
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This MAK90 sounds very similar (identical?) to one I had come in the store last spring and that sold on GB.

What muzzle device is on it currently?
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Old 12-10-2017, 05:17 PM   #16
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a curved metal pick
- reach in thru the retaining pin hole and pic around trying to push the detent pin forward.

https://www.harborfreight.com/4-piec...set-66836.html $1.99



good little tools to have for small springs and such on any gun.

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This MAK90 sounds very similar (identical?) to one I had come in the store last spring and that sold on GB.

What muzzle device is on it currently?
Just the traditional slant style
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Old 12-10-2017, 08:07 PM   #18
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It is a Norinco MAK90. If pin B is tapered, does it drive out from the ejection port side or the other?
I have had it soaking in some PB Blaster for almost 24hours. I will go shoot today and see if by chance it pops out.
On the MAK90's, the detent pin might be installed backwards to purposely jam it and it gets bent when this done.

There may be no spring behind it.

It might be cut off.

It might have had weld bits stuck to the front of it and that caused it to jam up when depressed.
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Old 12-10-2017, 08:20 PM   #19
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I hope this links to pictures.

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On the MAK90's, the detent pin might be installed backwards to purposely jam it and it gets bent when this done.

There may be no spring behind it.

It might be cut off.

It might have had weld bits stuck to the front of it and that caused it to jam up when depressed.
So right now it sits flush with th front sight. I can push it further in the sight about 3/16” and can feel it spring back to almost flush. It just wil not pop out past the flush position
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take your time and figure it out,that’s a nice mak there.
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take your time and figure it out,that’s a nice mak there.
Thank you.

I removed the front sight block and have been trying to push from the inside where the barrel sits. I am calling it quits for the night as I have broken my two hooked picks and buried the 37 degree pick into my thumb. I will pick up some more on my way home tomorrow and try again.
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Detent pin installed backwards?
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Old 12-11-2017, 08:54 PM   #25
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After breaking the two nw pick sets I bought today I decided to try things from a different perspective. I flipped over the sight post and drilled a small hole in the back. I was able to finally knock the muzzle pin out and the spring was much more difficult. I chucked up the pin in my drill and ran it over some 1000 grit sand paper until it goes in and out without hanging up. I will have to source a new spring (ink pen maybe?) and either epoxy the hole or see if my buddy can put a weld spot there and I can smooth it out.
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Not the ideal way but what's done is done. Should have drilled from the front.
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Cool, now put a spiker fsb on it!
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