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Old 11-14-2017, 12:45 PM   #1
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Default Former GM board member on driverless cars...

He was on the Glen Beck show (yeah, I know Beck sucks most of the time) talking about how people in the "car hobby" would have to drive their classic cars at a private membership track where they stored their car, because they wouldn't be allowed on the road. FUCK THAT!!!
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Old 11-14-2017, 01:37 PM   #2
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Not gonna happen.
Too many variables for driverless cars when it comes to driving on the road.
Also computers always fail.
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Old 11-14-2017, 03:12 PM   #3
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I guess that's why Audi still have people behind the wheel when it comes to their autonomous cars. I don't think that fully driverless cars will be a big thing for years to come. They'll at least keep a driver as a manual override for when systems fail.

Granted, considering how some people drive, a f'd up driverless car can't be much worse...
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Old 11-14-2017, 03:20 PM   #4
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I guess that's why Audi still have people behind the wheel when it comes to their autonomous cars. I don't think that fully driverless cars will be a big thing for years to come. They'll at least keep a driver as a manual override for when systems fail.

Granted, considering how some people drive, a f'd up driverless car can't be much worse...
It appears you're behind the times.

Waymo ( owned by Google ) is now operating their autonomous fleet without any meatbags at all.

Waymo removes the driver from its driverless autos

Google is the first technology company to certify its autonomous fleet for true autonomy.
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Old 11-14-2017, 04:12 PM   #5
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Will autonomous tow trucks tow autonomous vehicles that break down?
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Old 11-14-2017, 04:17 PM   #6
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Will autonomous tow trucks tow autonomous vehicles that break down?
Not until robots or androids become a reality.

Else who's gonna hook up the car to the wrecker?
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Old 11-14-2017, 04:27 PM   #7
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It appears you're behind the times.

Waymo ( owned by Google ) is now operating their autonomous fleet without any meatbags at all.

Waymo removes the driver from its driverless autos

Google is the first technology company to certify its autonomous fleet for true autonomy.
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Old 11-14-2017, 06:18 PM   #8
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The open road is a big part of Americana. Then again companies want drones glued to their advertisement platforms 24/7.
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Old 11-14-2017, 09:04 PM   #9
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I see the insurance companies creating change.
1) If you let the "Auto Pilot" Driver the car, they will charge you $0.10/mile or about $1,200/yr. If you want to drive the car, then they may want $0.45/mile, or $5,400/yr.
2) If the car can drive it self it can drop you off wherever you want to go, and then go find parking on its own.
3) I driver about 30,000/yr, if I can get on the open road, set the computer to drive and take a nap I'd be happy.
4) Have you seen how bad some people drive, some of them need a computer driver.
5) If my car has a computer driver, can I drink a beer on the way home?
6) When I am 90 I want a computer driver to take me to the DR, grocery store, etc.
I see pluses and minus to everything, that said, I like driving 20yr old pickups so it maybe a while before I get a computer driving car.
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Old 11-15-2017, 12:25 AM   #11
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I have seen several articles that claim a few major metro cities will be autonomous only vehicles in the not so distant future.. Like around 2040 I think. I think it was NYC and DC. They were talking about. There is some good and bad but I will be Damned if I will be made to accept it. Just another reason to never visit the big cities I guess.... Besides I am to poor to afford a car made in the 2000s.
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Old 11-15-2017, 03:42 AM   #12
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Not until robots or androids become a reality.

Else who's gonna hook up the car to the wrecker?
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Old 11-15-2017, 09:26 AM   #13
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I am sure their profit margins would love for it to be mandated, but it won't happen, I can see some very good uses for driverless cars, very good uses, H/C folks transportation, long road trips, when you are drinking and needing to get home, so many other instances where your carriage driving itself would be hugely advantageous. If say you had a medical emergency, you could literally hit go to hospital and sit in the car until it gets you there, if you are someone with heart problems this could be a life saver for you and other people you won't hit by not having a heart attack behind the wheel.


That being said, as someone who loves to go out and tear the roads up every now and again I can't see self driven cars going away, or even the option to switch between driverless and self driven, it will always be there.


You basically got to hear a packaged nice version of what global elite's like to do to enslave the masses and how tech including AI is being worked into it's architecture. Not saying the technology doesn't have merit, it really does and is the way of the future for efficiency and safety, but it's implementation as well as others to come will determine our path of morality and necessity of the human species for better or worse.
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Old 11-15-2017, 09:43 AM   #14
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What about 18 wheeler's, motorcycles, motor homes, Off road vehicles and boats?
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Old 11-15-2017, 12:12 PM   #15
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What about 18 wheeler's, motorcycles, motor homes, Off road vehicles and boats?
Self-driving 18-wheelers are a reality, although due to the higher regulatory nature of such vehicles, they still require a meatbag at the controls.

Autonomous boats have been around a long, long time.

"Off road vehicles", you say? Some of the universities / think tanks have been entering autonomous off-road vehicles into road rallies for years.
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You basically got to hear a packaged nice version of what global elite's like to do to enslave the masses and how tech including AI is being worked into it's architecture. Not saying the technology doesn't have merit, it really does and is the way of the future for efficiency and safety, but it's implementation as well as others to come will determine our path of morality and necessity of the human species for better or worse.
This.

Why are we oh so eager to sell our freedom for convienance?

I guess a life of comfortable slavery within a luke warm tapioca existence appeals to some.

Not me.
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damn... whats a ghetto rat gonna do, jack a driver less car without WTY driving it. where's the fun in that.
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damn... whats a ghetto rat gonna do, jack a driver less car without WTY driving it. where's the fun in that.
They’ll just move to different crime. Criminals gonna criminal. Mexico is a good example of this in action. Can’t drive down roads without being shot at now.
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Self-driving 18-wheelers are a reality, although due to the higher regulatory nature of such vehicles, they still require a meatbag at the controls.

Autonomous boats have been around a long, long time.

"Off road vehicles", you say? Some of the universities / think tanks have been entering autonomous off-road vehicles into road rallies for years.
I realize just about anything can be driver less but what fun is that. I use my boat or wave runner because I like to drive and steer them. Even if they could read my mind in real time I want to have the wheel and do things in the moment.
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Going to be AWESOME when some drunk just puked in the pod that comes to pick you up, or Luis CK was the last occupant.
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This.

Why are we oh so eager to sell our freedom for convienance?

I guess a life of comfortable slavery within a luke warm tapioca existence appeals to some.

Not me.
I don't think it's how willing people are, most people don't realize they are being cultured into acceptance without thinking now, I can embrace change and technology but not as a means of servitude or control.


It may be the greatest battle of the next century, I think if we lose it, mankind as a whole will eventually eat itself or cause it's own destruction.



God gave us choice, and those among us without that perception are seeking to destroy that by implementing ideas like Mr. Lutz suggests.
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Self-driving 18-wheelers are a reality, although due to the higher regulatory nature of such vehicles, they still require a meatbag at the controls.

Autonomous boats have been around a long, long time.

"Off road vehicles", you say? Some of the universities / think tanks have been entering autonomous off-road vehicles into road rallies for years.




Yup.
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Driverless cars have been "right around the corner" for sixty years.

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makes me think of that scene in hot tub time machine 2
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Yup.
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So,if a deer jumps out in front of a driverless car,will it choose to hit the deer and not the school bus full of kids in the oncoming lane? Or plow into the bus?
The only benefit I see is drunks being able to own cars again. Get shitfaced,and the car drives you home.
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So,if a deer jumps out in front of a driverless car,will it choose to hit the deer and not the school bus full of kids in the oncoming lane? Or plow into the bus?
The only benefit I see is drunks being able to own cars again. Get shitfaced,and the car drives you home.
Google was talking about that, and it’s a hard solution, if you gave the car that choice then the car can make misktakes like humans, yet making mistakes is what driverless cars were made to prevent. Some also think by giving machines the ability to make moral choices, they now have free will, something machines made by men should not have.
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