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Old 03-21-2017, 09:10 AM   #71
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All credit is shared between Mattylight30, chknfkr, and I (RMiller).

Rifles used in this test were.

1). SBR'd SLR104UR.

2). Converted Saiga 5.45.

3). Converted Vepr IV RPK.

A little info on our surroundings:

58 degrees, 50% Humidity, Some wind up to 17mph. Elevation is 589ft above sea level.

All of these were done at random.Each mag loaded with a box of amm. 5 shots for ea rifle.

SBR SLR104UR - AKS74U 8" barrel:

-Wolf Mil-Spec (Green Box) 60gr -

#1 - 2176
#2 - 2199
#3 - 2193
#4 - 2199
#5 - 2155
Av. - 2184


- New Golden Tiger 59gr

#1 - 2319
#2 - 2204
#3 - 2228
#4 - 2293
#5 - 2293
Av. - 2267

- Red Army Standard 69gr - Ukrainian

#1 - 2219
#2 - 2161
#3 - 2149
#4 - 2132
#5 - 2104
Av. - 2153

- Silver Bear 60g 2013

#1 - 2149
#2 - 2142
#3 - 2247
#4 - 2181
#5 - 2223
Av. - 2188

- 1980 Ulyanovsk 7n6 53g

#1 - 2328
#2 - 2346
#3 - 2272
#4 - 2358
#5 - 2398
Av. - 2340

- Red Army Standard 60gr Russian

#1 - 2029
#2 - 2011
#3 - 1992
#4 - 1993
#5 - 2020
Av. - 2009

- Hornady VMAX Lacquer Coated 60gr

#1 - 2280
#2 - 2279
#3 - 2257
#4 - 2221
#5 - 2216
Av. - 2250

- TulAmmo 60gr

#1 - 2050
#2 - 2056
#3 - 2021
#4 - 2028
#5 - 2020
Av. - 2035

- 82' Tula 7n6 53gr

#1 - 2406
#2 - 2357
#3 - 2339
#4 - 2323
#5 - 2352
Av. - 2355

- 83' Lugansk/Ukrainian 53gr

#1 - 2354
#2 - 2350
#3 - 2337
#4 - 2310
#5 - 2451
Av. - 2360

- Hornady VMAX Poly 60gr

#1 - 2217
#2 - 2275
#3 - 2220
#4 - 2295
#5 - 2243
Av. - 2250

Saiga - AK74 16" barrel

- Red Army Standard Ukrainian 69gr

#1 - 2726
#2 - 2672
#3 - 2685
#4 - 2649
#5 - 2720
Av. - 2690

- Wolf Mil Spec (Green Box) 60gr

#1 - 2751
#2 - 2746
#3 - 2717
#4 - 2740
#5 - 2753
Av. - 2741

- Red Army Standard Russian 60gr

#1 - 2458
#2 - 2467
#3 - 2455
#4 - 2482
#5 - 2459
Av. - 2464

- NEW Golden Tiger 59gr

#1 - 2818
#2 - 2763
#3 - 2799
#4 - 2772
#5 - 2864
Av. - 2803

- Silver Bear 2013 60gr

#1 - 2741
#2 - 2748
#3 - 2766
#4 - 2796
#5 - 2769
Av. - 2764

- 1982 Tula 7n6 53gr

#1 - 2974
#2 - 2912
#3 - 2894
#4 - 2894
#5 - 2874
Av. - 2909

- TulAmmo 60gr

#1 - 2517
#2 - 2519
#3 - 2456
#4 - 2447
#5 - 2423
Av. - 2472

- Hornady VMAX Lacquer 60gr

#1 - 2848
#2 - 2814
#3 - 2819
#4 - 2754
#5 - 2798
Av. - 2806

- 1980 Ulyanovsk 7n6 53gr

#1 - 2918
#2 - 2949
#3 - 2975
#4 - 2968
#5 - 2939
Av. - 2950

- 1983 Lugansk Ukrainian 7n6 53gr

#1 - 2949
#2 - 2970
#3 - 2974
#4 - 2955
#5 - 2979
Av. - 2965

- Hornady VMAX Poly 60gr

#1 - 2769
#2 - 2731
#3 - 2633
#4 - 2753
#5 - 2771
Av. - 2731

Vepr - RPK74M 23" Barrel

- 1982 Tula 7n6 53gr

#1 - 3136
#2 - 3114
#3 - 3051
#4 - 3108
#5 - 3123
Av. - 3106

- Red Army Standard Ukrainian 69gr

#1 - 2814
#2 - 2813
#3 - 2798
#4 - 2764
#5 - 2746
Av. - 2787

- Wolf Mil Spec (Green Box) 60gr

#1 - 2844
#2 - 2860
#3 - 2842
#4 - 2890
#5 - 2828
Av. - 2853

- NEW Golden Tiger 59gr

#1 - 2984
#2 - 2953
#3 - 2939
#4 - 2871
#5 - 2925
Av. - 2934

- TulAmmo 60gr

#1 - 2585
#2 - 2427
#3 - 2475
#4 - 2555
#5 - 2551
Av. - 2519

- Silver Bear 60gr

#1 - 2873
#2 - 2856
#3 - 2853
#4 - 2832
#5 - 2914
Av. - 2866

- Hornady VMAX Lacquer 60g

#1 - 2919
#2 - 2912
#3 - 2914
#4 - 2875
#5 - 2896
Av. - 2903

- 1980 Ulyanovsk 7n6 53gr

#1 - 2992
#2 - 3046
#3 - 3015
#4 - 3020
#5 - 3023
Av. - 3019

- Red Army Standard 60gr

#1 - 2623
#2 - 2515
#3 - 2544
#4 - 2494
#5 - 2498
Av. - 2535

- 1983 Lugansk Ukrainian 7n6 53gr

#1 - 3054
#2 - 3035
#3 - 3071
#4 - 3053
#5 - 3016
Av. - 3046

- Hornady VMAX Poly 60g

#1 - 2846
#2 - 2893
#3 - 2855
#4 - 2812
#5 - 2884
Av. - 2858

Now for the CRUDE accuracy part of the test. We only bothered to do this for the Converted Saiga AK74 due to time constraints. Each picture is abbreviated with the ammo type used. Groups can be matched up to the readings above as they were shot at the same time.

Groups were shot at 25yds with a Primary Arms Advanced Micro Dot/RS Regulate Combo. Even though the groups below aren't definitive, they should give a rough estimate on which will tend to be more accurate.


























Pic of our ugly mugs.

Excellent work! Man that is great stuff. Nice to see Golden TIger living up to it's name. Actually surprised on how hot it was.
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Old 03-21-2017, 09:48 PM   #72
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My New GT came in 20rd boxes with paper between every 4 rounds, no staples on them at all. Box top flap said C-03-16

I will check the boxes of the OLD GT when I return home.
Packed same way as New GT except the date code was 3-13
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Old 03-22-2017, 12:09 AM   #73
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There we have it.

The stapled packages is what we tested , C-01-16, and the second batch of ammo I purchased from SG ammo.

The first case I ordered and shot was the newer C-04-16 with paper in between the cartridges. It felt hotter than the wolf mil spec.

I think we may need to revisit the GT and see if it is indeed different between the two different packages.
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There we have it.

The stapled packages is what we tested , C-01-16, and the second batch of ammo I purchased from SG ammo.

The first case I ordered and shot was the newer C-04-16 with paper in between the cartridges. It felt hotter than the wolf mil spec.

I think we may need to revisit the GT and see if it is indeed different between the two different packages.

Were both C-01-16 and C-04-16 purchased from SG Ammo I assume (since I haven't seen anyone else stock it)?
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Were both C-01-16 and C-04-16 purchased from SG Ammo I assume (since I haven't seen anyone else stock it)?
Yes, both from SG ammo.
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Strange, Mine was old C-03-13 and new was C-03-16, both paper dividers, no wrapping.
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Strange, Mine was old C-03-13 and new was C-03-16, both paper dividers, no wrapping.
Guess it just depends whether they had paper dividers in stock that week or had wrapping available.
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Thanks for doing and posting this stuff guys!

I recently ordered some gt from sg ammo.
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Thanks for doing and posting this stuff guys!

I recently ordered some gt from sg ammo.
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Thanks for contributing your info here fellas.

Hope to see some of you Illinois boys in July!
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Thanks for contributing your info here fellas.

Hope to see some of you Illinois boys in July!
I wish I was going for certain, but I have a 2nd child on the way and it's due right at the tail end of June.

I'm kind of playing it by ear.
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