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Old 08-09-2017, 04:50 PM   #71
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It's better than I originally thought but after seeing that almost purple blue finish I still feel ugly on the inside.....
The photos really bring out the details. I intentionally positioned the parts in lighting that would show the scrub marks for you. When I first looked at the carrier, I couldn't see where the scrubbing was, I had to go online and find a pic of an EG carrier to see where the number was.
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Old 08-09-2017, 05:00 PM   #72
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i read the part about building a monument with these rifles in the original farc peace deal about 6 months ago, not in the recent articles, in the older ones im pretty sure it details that the monuments will literally be built out of the melted weapons, you never know though
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Thanks for the pics , I just wish these were unsanitized :-(
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Old 08-09-2017, 05:18 PM   #74
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^^^If I had a kit like that already, I sure as hell wouldn't waste my money on these ones.
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Old 08-10-2017, 01:58 PM   #75
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I wiped these down and they are in Great Condition. The grind marks on the Trunnion people were freaking out about is not deep at all.
I compared it to a few other sanitized trunnions; Mak90, Tula, Romanian.
The E.G Trunnions I received have more material left. One could easily re serialize them without having to Add any metal.

I missed out on these back when they were $250. (5yrs ago maybe?) So It was an instant buy for me.

My only issue was that 1 of the kits was missing the bag of pins, some FCG parts and the Top Cover was Bulgarian.
If these are from the Balkans conflict, the Top Cover could have been switched before De-mill.
Normally I wouldn't bother about missing small parts and a incorrect Cover, but these are East German. EG has unique taper on the end of their pins, also I have a thing for E.G AK's .
So I sent Apex an email and they were Great, they made my kit whole & swapped the cover before a week was out.
As always Apex's CS is Top Notch












The parts below the Top Cover are what was missing from 1 kit.


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Old 08-10-2017, 04:21 PM   #76
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Got mine today. Looks to be in unfired condition. Most of the sanitizing is done very clean. The worst and most noticeable is the top cover.













I took the trunnion to the belt sander and cleaned it up a little bit. Could go a little more and you wouldn't seen any of the grind marks.



I'm happy with it, ordered a receiver from Childer's today.

Damn what a shame..
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I wonder if those stampings can be raised with acid? If ground off bike numbers can be retrevied so could gun numbers, I would assume.
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Old 08-11-2017, 04:16 PM   #78
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I wonder if those stampings can be raised with acid? If ground off bike numbers can be retrevied so could gun numbers, I would assume.
They would have no depth. Only if you were curious what the original numbers were would it be helpful. Not sure it is worth the bother.
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They would have no depth. Only if you were curious what the original numbers were would it be helpful. Not sure it is worth the bother.
Well, if one could retrieve them, then they could be re-stamped. Might be worth raising the trunnion stamp.
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I get that but easier to pick a date that one likes that is in the range of the parts and pic a serial number that is a unique or favorite or birthday. The DDR markings are very rudimentary.
Not like you are really getting it back to original.
These are about as far as kits get from original. The DDR's are nicely finished and blued though.
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Old 08-11-2017, 06:03 PM   #81
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Well, if one could retrieve them, then they could be re-stamped. Might be worth raising the trunnion stamp.
I know the last 3 #s on mine are 480, because they missed the stamping on the selector and the safety sear. Just for the hell of it, I'm going to mark the trunnion with something that looks original but that's it. It will be a nice shooter that I wont worry about scratching it up a little.
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I just posted this on the forum, that explains why it is more of a write up, I mentioned to you guys I was going to be out of town earlier in the week.

I am in Colorado Springs this week, one place I wanted to visit was APEX. I met Richard and Jeff at the SAR last year and I kept in touch with Richard.

Richard is very, very knowledgeable about the industry and their facility, faculty and general operation is first class. One thing I wanted to see and to share was the new East German kits they just received. One thing that was very interesting was HOW FAR they went to conceal the serials of these kits. Anything with the last three digits they left, they got rid of anything with four digits or more, even the wood handguards were scrubbed. That is pretty cool.

These are Balkans conflict weapons, they are scrubbed/sanitized but it is done very very well. I grabbed one of the kits on the top of the bin. I was handed a knife to cut it open and take a look. These kits were demilled very carefully, the particular example could be a 67 kit judging by a few features AZAK pointed out.

The contractor they used to demill these did a great job. They do one at a time and keep all the parts from each kit together. I will be ordering my own kit at the end of the month, I wish I could have left with this one, if I wouldn't have spent $400.00 on ammo the previous day shooting machine guns I could have.

This gun was new before it was cut, look at the lack of wear on the carrier and piston.

Take a look for yourself:
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the particular example could be a 67 kit judging by a few features AZAK pointed out.
Please elaborate, what features would those be?
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A scrubbed Balkans conflict weapon.
The blueing looks damn good on Techno's pics.
These are looking good as a legit piece of AKM history?

Am I being realistic, or am I just a gun whore?
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Old 08-12-2017, 08:41 AM   #86
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A scrubbed Balkans conflict weapon.
The blueing looks damn good on Techno's pics.
These are looking good as a legit piece of AKM history?

Am I being realistic, or am I just a gun whore?
is that a rhetorical question i sense? lol I think we both know the answer too that!
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is that a rhetorical question i sense? lol I think we both know the answer too that!
So, buy the kit, and complete my journey to the dark side?
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Old 08-12-2017, 09:27 AM   #88
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The blueing looks damn good on Techno's pics.
It looks the same as mine, his photos are indoors with artificial lighting, take it outside in the sun light and it will look like my pic.
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I built one of these scrubbed apex kits back around 2013ish. I like shooting it, she's solid and everyone trips out over the pebble stock.





Pics are pretty old, the bullet button is loong gone since I live in America now
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The contractor they used to demill these did a great job.
That's great.

Maybe mention to Richard he should use more qualified people to demil the rest of his stuff, most of the time who ever demill his kits couldn't find their way out of a paper bag.
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I built one of these scrubbed apex kits back around 2013ish. I like shooting it, she's solid and everyone trips out over the pebble stock.

Pics are pretty old, the bullet button is loong gone since I live in America now
Welcome home! Beautiful rifle.

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Welcome home! Beautiful rifle.

Thanks bud!
Likewise that blaster looks like fun!
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Lol, I have to figure out a photo site before too long. Im making bluing tanks next month 6x6x40 with lids out of 304/16GAss. I plan on selling them for $110.00 out the door. Photofuckit screwed that up.
Try imgur, it's what I'm using. Signup was super fast and it even puts the img codes on it for me.
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Try imgur, it's what I'm using. Signup was super fast and it even puts the img codes on it for me.
I've been using https://imgbb.com without issues.
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TECHNO I appreciate you sharing the experience of your visit with us.
Glad you found a way to share all those pictures you took.

Speaking of pictures, I am liking the pictures of that East German build from Bravodigger.

Based on the other kits we received I think these are the last of the "Balkans War" AK's from this particular export firm.
Those other kits are still being handled, just the M72AB1 kit has made it to our GunBroker listings.

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/680783731


Here is a link to the East German kits on the APEX web site:

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Glad to see you posting again! Sucks the bipod is missing on that ab1
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TECHNO I appreciate you sharing the experience of your visit with us.
Glad you found a way to share all those pictures you took.

Speaking of pictures, I am liking the pictures of that East German build from Bravodigger.

Based on the other kits we received I think these are the last of the "Balkans War" AK's from this particular export firm.
Those other kits are still being handled, just the M72AB1 kit has made it to our GunBroker listings.

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/680783731


Here is a link to the East German kits on the APEX web site:

https://www.apexgunparts.com/east-ge...sanitized.html




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Glad to see you posting again! Sucks the bipod is missing on that ab1
I look at alot of various forums, and I cant remember where I was looking but I saw not one but two M72AB1 DEACTS on a foreign forum missing the bipods. You are right about that, sucks.

If someone wanted to make their Mitchell Arms imported RPK look correct, maybe they would swap you one? Or maybe someone has the lower half and will sell it because it they need the top half?
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Do we have any threads here that show differences in AK47/AKM design by country and/or year ?
(Like the Other forum has)
East German AK's are pretty unique, just about every part has a difference.
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I missed out on these back when they were $169. (5yrs ago maybe?) So It was an instant buy for me.
WOW.......I knew they were cheap but damn, nearly a 300% increase in 5 years.
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The condition wasn't as Good, also it looks like 5yrs ago they were $250.
The $169 I'm thinking of must have been 6-7 years ago.
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