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Old 05-04-2018, 11:21 PM   #1
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Default KVAR has a factory RPK-203 on GB

Too rich for my blood and not a gotta-have item for me, but I thought I'd post it in case anyone was not aware already. Super cool, I wonder how many they have and where they've been hiding them.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/769062621
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Should have posted this in Rifle Discussion so more people would see post

Not even going to guess what this will sell for
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Should have posted this in Rifle Discussion so more people would see post

Not even going to guess what this will sell for
Well, it is an RPK...
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Old 05-05-2018, 11:00 AM   #4
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Yeah, that was my thinking--RPK in the RPK section. I know general rifles gets more traffic, but it'll also get buried more quickly. I would like to know when these came in; wouldn't it be nice if Molot sanctions were removed and these started being imported by the boatload...
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Looks like it came in with the same batch of FMs right before the sanctions hit.

Kind of an odd duck that it has the modern touches like dimpled barrel components and the M type side folder, but it's using the old style bullet guide and no turning guide pin...

*Edit* it also has a '74 style bipod.
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Old 05-05-2018, 12:20 PM   #6
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I could only find this one:

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/765665369

Molot-Oruzhie Vepr-1V RPK / AK74
$1,725.00

Mishaco put up a nice one for sale:

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/764513660
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Looks like it came in with the same batch of FMs right before the sanctions hit.

Kind of an odd duck that it has the modern touches like dimpled barrel components and the M type side folder, but it's using the old style bullet guide and no turning guide pin...

*Edit* it also has a '74 style bipod.
The bolt turning difference is odd, but the rest of that stuff (bipod included) is standard for the modern 7.62 rpk-203
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It's the mix of old and new that makes me think this isn't actually a factory built gun.

The dimples belong there, the M folder belongs there. It should have a turning guide pin and the corresponding bullet guide, it does not.

Bipod is hit or miss. I see some examples of the RPK-203 with '74 style bipods, as well as traditional RPK bipods.

I'd like to see some more of the gun before jumping to any conclusions.
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It's the mix of old and new that makes me think this isn't actually a factory built gun.

The dimples belong there, the M folder belongs there. It should have a turning guide pin and the corresponding bullet guide, it does not.

Bipod is hit or miss. I see some examples of the RPK-203 with '74 style bipods, as well as traditional RPK bipods.

I'd like to see some more of the gun before jumping to any conclusions.
Well it’s advertised as all Russian factory, and I’m inclined to believe that on the basis that the components are dimpled onto the barrel, meaning that the barrel assembly is Russian. How much sense would it make to snag a barrel assembly off a rpk-203 to put it on another? And if they had access to barrel assemblies, you’d think they’d get a whole bunch and sell them like they used to with the rpk-74 assemblies.
If io brought in the 1V it makes sense that they could bring these in as-is. The receiver looks like a legit vepr receiver, it’s possible these were just built to take an older style turning guide vs the hardened pin. Who knows, minor variations during AK production—especially Russian—are hardly a new thing though. Tantal’s site shows the variation that has occurred throughout the history of 74 and 100 series production. Not saying it isn’t odd, just that the absence of the turning pin doesn’t preclude it from being a factory built rifle. Definitely an interesting rifle in any case, hopefully kvar will provide some more info.

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Holy crap, this things up to $3500 and there’s still 3 days left on the auction. I thought it would go for mid to high two’s, shows you what I know.
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Its at 3800 now. No thanks, I'd rather put the money towards another Corvette.
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Guess now we know what was coming from Molot to the US before the sanctions hit...
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Under an hour to go and over $4,000 now.
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Not worth the price.
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Not worth the price.
If they had posted better pictures, I bet it would have sold for more. For what it was, K-Var failed from a presentation aspect. I mean for that kinda dough, no pics of the other side of the receiver or markings for that matter...
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If they had posted better pictures, I bet it would have sold for more. For what it was, K-Var failed from a presentation aspect. I mean for that kinda dough, no pics of the other side of the receiver or markings for that matter...
All the more reason I doubt it is what they claim it to be.
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Imagine if they imported these in bulk like it was rumored they were going to, instead they dicked around and imported a bunch of weird crap, we will never see another Russian made AK imported, so it is what it is now.



The greatest Molot import we got belongs to I.O of all people with their RPK-201.
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Imagine if they imported these in bulk like it was rumored they were going to, instead they dicked around and imported a bunch of weird crap, we will never see another Russian made AK imported, so it is what it is now.



The greatest Molot import we got belongs to I.O of all people with their RPK-201.
Meh, I'm glad the 16" FMs made it here before a real RPK. Unlike with a 23 inch barreled rifle, they have some real utility for most people

Curious which one would have sold better. I'd put my money on the 16 inchers.

What they really should have gotten from Molot was AKMs.
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The greatest Molot import we got belongs to I.O of all people with their RPK-201.
A few of us took the plunge and converted them to proper RPK-74Ms.



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What they really should have gotten from Molot was AKMs.
Molot never made akm’s, just refurbed some existing rifles (for the civvy market, I believe). They still had a third hole so they wouldn’t have been importable.
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