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Old 01-12-2018, 12:47 PM   #1
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Default How do I improve my ARís trigger without breaking the bank?

I just ordered a $300 Palmetto State Armory AR-15 build kit and I anticipate the trigger being horrible lol. I want a trigger thatís consistent, short, and light. Iím on a tight budget for this build so ordering a $250 Geissele trigger isnít an option.

I was thinking of ordering a JP Enterprises 3.5lb spring kit and polishing up the surfaces on the PSA trigger. Would this be sufficient? Or are there cheap, decent trigger kits (either used or new) out there?

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Old 01-12-2018, 12:52 PM   #2
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Jp yellow springs and joe bobs out fitters grip adjuster screw best ban for the buck
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Old 01-12-2018, 06:23 PM   #3
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I really like the 2 stage NM on my Rock River Op2. Really nice IMO.
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Old 01-12-2018, 08:44 PM   #4
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I just ordered a $300 Palmetto State Armory AR-15 build kit and I anticipate the trigger being horrible lol. I want a trigger that’s consistent, short, and light. I’m on a tight budget for this build so ordering a $250 Geissele trigger isn’t an option.

I was thinking of ordering a JP Enterprises 3.5lb spring kit and polishing up the surfaces on the PSA trigger. Would this be sufficient? Or are there cheap, decent trigger kits (either used or new) out there?

Thanks for the help!
Watch for this to come back in stock (Probably what you're talking about). They usually get these and sell them at $29.

http://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-a...d-trigger.html

I use that trigger with the yellow JP springs mentioned previously. Total is about $50 Great improvement.
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Old 01-12-2018, 11:32 PM   #5
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For about $90 you can get a 3lb drop in.

Otherwise some of the enhanced triggers for about $30 are decent.
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Old 01-12-2018, 11:34 PM   #6
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I really like the 2 stage NM on my Rock River Op2. Really nice IMO.
Same here, it has been my go to AR trigger for years. Not the best out there but a good trigger for the money.
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Old 01-12-2018, 11:38 PM   #7
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Whoops, I thought it said AK...

The polished mil spec triggers aren’t bad. I don’t think you can get much else for less than $100.

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Old 01-12-2018, 11:43 PM   #8
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My stock mil spec trigger just started feeling spongy or two stage like imo around the 2k round mark. I'm hard pressed to want to change it now.. i wanna see how long it stays or if it changes more.. all I'm saying is can't beat a good mil spec trigger and if it breaks then replace it.
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Old 01-13-2018, 12:30 AM   #9
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LaRue is what you seek.

They run specials for $100 often.

https://www.larue.com/products/larue...bt-2s-trigger/
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Old 01-13-2018, 12:31 AM   #10
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I thought those came with the Tapco G2. Its a single stage trigger, but very little takeup and a light break. Itís quite good, and if it isnít installed, you can buy a new one for $25.

For $30 I think you can find a Century RAK-1 trigger. Iím pretty sure I have this trigger in my WASR, and it feels like a two stage, and is also very nice.



Heís talking ARís, not AKís.
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I’ve had good results with the ALG Defence line of AR triggers. (They are owned by Geissele).

$69 plus free shipping.
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Old 01-13-2018, 12:52 AM   #12
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I’ve had good results with the ALG Defence line of AR triggers. (They are owned by Geissele).

$69 plus free shipping.
Those are polished my spec. Polished by Geissele, yet still they are mil spec and not any different design. It’s probably the best polished mil trigger you can get, but I don’t know how much better it is than all of the ones for half that price out there, or how much better it is than him polishing his own trigger.

I will say that the last two PSA standard triggers I received were outstanding compared to my mil spec Colt triggers. I would think some light polishing on a standard PSA trigger could be pretty sweet especially for the price (basically free).
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Old 01-13-2018, 12:54 AM   #13
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If the supplied mil spec is not too creepy, there's a trigger/disconnector spring combo available from Wolff Gunsprings that have brought pulls down to 5lbs even in my blowback guns. I keep mil spec parts in those as they are notoriously hard on triggers.

Either that, or the RRA two stage or CMC single stage are great triggers for the money.

I've found the fancy coated "combat" triggers to mostly be snake oil.
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Jp yellow springs and joe bobs out fitters grip adjuster screw best bang for the buck
This is your best bang for your buck. if you want to go cheaper it can be done with 2 short 1/4-28 set screws and customizing the original springs. Total cost is less than $.50 and with some careful stoning of the sear surfaces i usually get a nice crisp 3lb trigger with minimal creep. The first set screw is used to set the trigger and the second is used as a lockng screw to keep it from moving .Some recievers have the grip bolt hole threaded all the way through but i think most will need to be finished with a tap.

I only use this on my range guns as i do not want to risk possible malfunction due to the lighter springs if i am in a self defense scenario.

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This is your best bang for your buck. if you want to go cheaper it can be done with 2 short 1/2-28 set screws and customizing the original springs. Total cost is less than $.50 and with some careful stoning of the sear surfaces i usually get a nice crisp 3lb trigger with minimal creep.

I only use this on my range guns as i do not want to risk possible malfunction due to the lighter springs if i am in a self defense scenario.
You mean 1/4" screws?
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Iíve had good results with the ALG Defence line of AR triggers. (They are owned by Geissele).

$69 plus free shipping.
The ALG ACT trigger is probably the easiest way to go about it and I'm usually a DIYer on a lot of things (especially Ruger 10/22s). These triggers can be found for $54.95 on sale often. I believe the ALG QMS can be found for around $49.95 on sale as well. I've been tempted to try the Hyperfire Hiper Touch EDT2, but I tend to stick with what I know works well for me. The EDT and EDT2 can be found for around $10 more than the ALG QMS/ACT triggers.
I've been completely satisfied using the full power springs with the ALG ACT triggers.
If anyone needs or wants to try the purple reduced power (4.5lb) spring that comes with the ALG trigger kit, just PM me. I have one that I could donate.
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I use these drop-ins for my AR's that lean toward being accurate, or if you want to
do rapid fire, it's real fun.

https://www.deltateamtactical.com/AR...sh_p_4780.html
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I'm running the RRA Varmit trigger in 3 of mine. I'm thinking of dropping one in my AR10.
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I bought some of these when they were on sale. I really like them.

https://www.righttobear.com/Enhanced...-p/enta-01.htm
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Love my ALG,
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Did the yellow springs on one and the Rock River on the other.
Very happy w the RR ..... I think it was 65 bucks on ebay
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Old 01-13-2018, 01:35 PM   #22
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My PSA lower with their milspec trigger does 1moa consistently with my ballistic advantage barrel upper with good ammo on a rest. Same lower with the CHF palmetto upper on a rest and good ammo does 2-3moa.

A good trigger could be helpful and all but on a $300 budget build kit, id go get a new barrel while prices are cheap before messing with the trigger.
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I’ve had good results with the ALG Defence line of AR triggers. (They are owned by Geissele).

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The ALG ACT trigger is probably the easiest way to go about it and I'm usually a DIYer on a lot of things (especially Ruger 10/22s). These triggers can be found for $54.95 on sale often. I believe the ALG QMS can be found for around $49.95 on sale as well. I've been tempted to try the Hyperfire Hiper Touch EDT2, but I tend to stick with what I know works well for me. The EDT and EDT2 can be found for around $10 more than the ALG QMS/ACT triggers.
I've been completely satisfied using the full power springs with the ALG ACT triggers.
If anyone needs or wants to try the purple reduced power (4.5lb) spring that comes with the ALG trigger kit, just PM me. I have one that I could donate.
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Those are polished mil spec. Polished by Geissele, yet still they are mil spec and not any different design. It’s probably the best polished mil trigger you can get, but I don’t know how much better it is than all of the ones for half that price out there, or how much better it is than him polishing his own trigger.
Not everyone can polish a trigger without changing geometry.

Nothing wrong with a smooth, crisp, milspec trigger out of the box.
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Spikes battle trigger 59.95
Milspec components, nickel boron finish, very little creep, very slick finish, add a lighter spring kit for even better results.
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I use these drop-ins for my AR's that lean toward being accurate, or if you want to
do rapid fire, it's real fun.

https://www.deltateamtactical.com/AR...sh_p_4780.html
There seems to be three companies all selling these triggers. Davidson's Defense, Delta Team Tact, and Omega Manufacturing.

I been searching for clarity on these. Reviews seem mixed. Lots of double fires, which would be expected by a single stage 3lbs crisp trigger in undisciplined hands.

Also, they allude to a "famous manufacturer" making these and they can't reveal the source, but I wonder if it's one of their own spin off companies. Who actually makes their triggers? It's been suggested they are made by RISE, but even then one reviewer says they are factory seconds/blems.
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I've successfully removed all creep by putting a tiny bit of weld on the under side of the trigger and filing little by little until the safety works. Same concept as the grip screw set screw but cheaper and no chance of loosening up.
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I do my own for less than 5 bucks. and the time it takes from staring at the tv for an evening.
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LaRue is what you seek.

They run specials for $100 often.

https://www.larue.com/products/larue...bt-2s-trigger/
This.

Love my LaRue trigger for the price. Plus they always send the best swag with every order.
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