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Old 08-12-2018, 12:29 PM   #36
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It’s not even a case of disparaging Rifle Dynamics... They’re good rifles with a lot of care taken in QC. Buying a rifle from them is a guarantee of a good rifle. But that alone doesn’t justify $2200 when any established builder will give you the same guarentee.

What I find amusing is that most people wanting an RD rifle want one because of Jim Fuller’s name. That’s a testament to the man himself and there’s no doubt he builds a superb AK (I’d still argue it isn’t worth $2200 but that’s besides the point). However, he isn’t building them for, or even in charge of, RD anymore. He sold the business a few years ago and is kept on in an advisory role.

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Old 08-12-2018, 01:52 PM   #37
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Gotta do your due diligence!!
An re think a $2,200.00 ak with only a name in the history of the company!!
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Old 08-12-2018, 05:44 PM   #38
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My RD 74 is a custom kit build and not his current production. I only have $1600 into it custom parts and all.

For $2000 I'd personally be buying a Kreb's with polish chf chrome lined barrel, Kreb's parts and magic touch. Lack of 5.45x39 is the downside.

So what I'd really buy is used SLR 104's and SGL 31's in the MP or local forums.
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Old 08-12-2018, 06:35 PM   #39
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Yeah but the (tuned action )is priceless ??
Just get a vepr
Canít go wronge!!!
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Old 08-13-2018, 07:19 PM   #40
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First of all I completely forgot I made this thread. Lmao. Thank you all for your comments.

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I have a RD74 and a SGL31. I shoot them both and they both function the same.
Hi plagued! We are friends on this forum!!!! Cool rifles!

Regarding the fsb/gb, I would get their new in-house adjustable gas system with a standard adjustable ak front sight, not the venom. It will be formally released in the next few weeks I hear.

I have a Rifle Dynamics AKM that I paid $1,500 for this year. It has a better action, trigger, and overall quality than both my slr104ur and sgl31. I realize this is my anecdotal experience with only 3 ak’s, so take that as you will. Yes, the AKM was expensive, but in my limited experience I found it worth it.

I've deciced to say fuck it and get the 501 in their black grape moly resin. I want complete confidence and piece of mind that the build won't be of middling quality. I also believe that the RD name will help keep some of the rifle's value even after shooting the barrel out.

Cartel's vote of confidence helped.
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Old 08-14-2018, 10:44 PM   #41
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There are how many million 5.45 rifles out there that run a normal gas block in combat and in civilian use with ZERO PROBLEMS.

Why would one want to run a adjustable gas system on a rifle that only has factory ammo available that seems to run fine so you have to have a over size port to allow the gas to be adjusted down to were it would be on any normal rifle??

a bigger port is just a bigger imperfection in your bore . On a 5.45 that already has accuracy issues form poor ammo why try and make it worse .

is there now some problem with 5.45 rifles that need a adjustable block that the Russians military never noticed in 40 years ??

Why the need for a adjustable gas system on a $2200 rifle ?
I have never seen a factory 5.45 not cycle factory ammo .
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Old 08-14-2018, 11:07 PM   #42
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I'm looking to get a 501 series rifle from RD to use as my 5.45 shooter - I would like to keep my SGL31 in pristine shape.

Does anyone have experience with these rifles? I'd love to hear opinions on them. Thanks!
For $2000, you can find Saiga 5.45 or Vepr 5.45. Would be better rifles and they not priced that much yet
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Old 08-14-2018, 11:10 PM   #43
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There are how many million 5.45 rifles out there that run a normal gas block in combat and in civilian use with ZERO PROBLEMS.

Why would one want to run a adjustable gas system on a rifle that only has factory ammo available that seems to run fine so you have to have a over size port to allow the gas to be adjusted down to were it would be on any normal rifle??

a bigger port is just a bigger imperfection in your bore . On a 5.45 that already has accuracy issues form poor ammo why try and make it worse .

is there now some problem with 5.45 rifles that need a adjustable block that the Russians military never noticed in 40 years ??

Why the need for a adjustable gas system on a $2200 rifle ?
I have never seen a factory 5.45 not cycle factory ammo .

Pretty sure itís for suppressor use.
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Old 08-15-2018, 12:01 AM   #44
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Pretty sure itís for suppressor use.
Maybe .

So still unless you have a suppressor why have this ?
Ill wager 2% or less of these rifles ever see a suppressor .

not a smart move having something that is arguably not as reliable especially with corrosive and or dirty cheap ammo and likely will hurt accuracy as well.

regardless what GB it has the the part is not going to make a $700 rifle a $2200 one or any more world usable .

If I was going to have one suppressed rifle it would not be a 5.45 AK that shoots dirty ammo that cost $2200. What id have I don't know but this would not be it . lots of $2200 choices

likey something I could really make quiet with easily available subsonic ammo .

seems like a Gimmick to me to add $50 worth of parts or less to make a rilfe appear to be much better than that it really is .
If there was subsonic ammo, guys reloading 5.45 or greatly varying factory ammo or a history of a 5.45 AK needing gas tuning id understand .

unless im missing something its more of a solution to a problem that does not exist and I did not see any thing about AK 74 not being reliable in the 120 page thread on the features of the 5.45 .

I only see the need for a adjustable gas block if here is a lot of ammo variance and choices or as you stated maybe a suppressor
either way a adjustable gas system is a easy add on to any AK if you go suppressed .
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Old 08-15-2018, 12:02 AM   #45
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Pretty sure itís for suppressor use.
SBRad IS rad.

It's for suppressor use, they're not upending 40 years of tradition haphazardly 1biggun!
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Old 08-15-2018, 08:01 AM   #46
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rifle dynamics has an adjustable gas block? yea but dont show pics or let it be purchased seperately?
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Old 08-15-2018, 10:19 AM   #47
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On a 5.45 that already has accuracy issues form poor ammo why try and make it worse .



accuracy issues?
oh wait it bigfudd...never mind. Apparently if you have a standard issued mil-spec rifle that shoots 2 MOA with mil-spec ammo it has accuracy issues. 10-4.
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Old 08-15-2018, 11:16 AM   #48
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accuracy issues?
oh wait it bigfudd...never mind. Apparently if you have a standard issued mil-spec rifle that shoots 2 MOA with mil-spec ammo it has accuracy issues. 10-4.
No my point is that most times you have a adjustable gas block your going want a over size port to allow the use of lighter loads .
That's not going to help accuracy if your rifle.

If this rifle has a standard port to dial down for increased pressure from a surpressor I don't know. . If so then no big deal.

Yes accuracy . I sort of feel a $2200 rifle should be more accurate than a $400 version .
That's a challange with factory 5.45 to begin with .
Yes I realize a $2200 5.45 with a adjustable GB is fir some special oops tango down zombies join ninjas urban close quarters combat situation that's why it needs a fancy finish.

Point was if you don't need to adjust the gas down then don't do it because it generaly means a bigger imperfection in your barrel.
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Old 08-15-2018, 12:01 PM   #49
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ok, understood.
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Old 08-15-2018, 02:00 PM   #50
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Loved the picture you posted though that made me laugh.
Do all 5.45 owners look like that??

To be clear I have nothing against a well built rifle and a guy or company with a earned reputation getting good money.
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Old 08-15-2018, 05:57 PM   #51
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This thread has been very informative. Clearly I'm overpaying, but to be honest, I don't mind. Super pumped about the rifle.
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This thread has been very informative. Clearly I'm overpaying, but to be honest, I don't mind. Super pumped about the rifle.
And your the only one that matters if you like it and your happy then all os good .

Id be interested in pics of the gas block when you get it .
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My RD 74 is a custom kit build and not his current production. I only have $1600 into it custom parts and all.

For $2000 I'd personally be buying a Kreb's with polish chf chrome lined barrel, Kreb's parts and magic touch. Lack of 5.45x39 is the downside.

So what I'd really buy is used SLR 104's and SGL 31's in the MP or local forums.
Is Krebs still making AK74s ?
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Is Krebs still making AK74s ?
I wish.

I'd be buying if so.
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Loved the picture you posted though that made me laugh.
Do all 5.45 owners look like that??
yes we do. LOL
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Old 08-16-2018, 06:09 PM   #56
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Or you could send them a parts kit and know that Jim is doing all their kit builds himself. He has a few of my kits now.
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