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Old 01-13-2018, 06:04 PM   #1
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Has anyone seen an AK47 in .300 blackout?
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Old 01-13-2018, 06:08 PM   #2
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If i was to pick idiotic caliber to chamber AK in, .300blk would be on top of the list.
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Old 01-13-2018, 06:17 PM   #3
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Lol, yeah I'm pretty sure there were some saiga/vepr .223 or m85 conversions to 300bo--don't recall which it was or if it was more than one of those. But ugroza is right, from what I've read ballistics are pretty similar to x39 and unless you're using a suppressor (which the AK isn't ideal for) the general consensus is there isn't any point unless you like paying more to fire your weapons. But if that's what you want, go for it man
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the general consensus is there isn't any point unless you like paying more to fire your weapons.
I thought about building one to piss in the AR guys cereal, but in the end this argument won out.
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Old 01-13-2018, 07:00 PM   #5
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It's pretty worthless in AR's too. Though is showing some promise in suppressed bolt gun, locally on hog herds. Would be a total waste of time and resources in an AK as far as I'm concerned.
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Old 01-13-2018, 07:11 PM   #6
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Ya ive seen em.
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Old 01-13-2018, 07:13 PM   #7
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To actually answer the question: yes, watch the NFA review channel's review of the Dead Air Wolverine.
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Old 01-14-2018, 05:41 PM   #8
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Actually, the AK Guy on Facebook made a One Of, in .300blkout. using a custom magwell to use AR mags.
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Ak builder sells barrels if you just gotta.
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Old 01-14-2018, 06:32 PM   #10
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Chambering an AK in 300blk is like re-barreling a 45-70 to a 444. I mean you could, but why?
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Old 01-14-2018, 08:30 PM   #11
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LoL. I built a .300 BLK SBR. The Ammo cost IS the reason I bought an AK - I wanted to be able to shoot more than 100 rounds a range trip...

.300 has its purpose, and that is to be a damn quiet hitter out of a good suppressor. Other than that...
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Old 01-14-2018, 08:45 PM   #12
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If i was to pick idiotic caliber to chamber AK in, .300blk would be on top of the list.
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.300 has its purpose, and that is to be a damn quiet hitter out of a good suppressor. Other than that...
That is point about the caliber. Unless it's suppressed it's pretty much a useless caliber. How many are actually going to pony up and go through the bs to suppress it? Heavy bullets in a 7.62x39 or a dang beat to hell 30-30 is cheaper and easier without a suppressor.
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Old 01-14-2018, 08:55 PM   #14
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I did the work. I use an AAC-SDN-6. It’s one slick setup. Using 220 gr OTM the round delivers 500 ft lb energy at 100 yards.

Very quiet set-up. — I agree it’s not for everyone...
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I did the work. I use an AAC-SDN-6. Itís one slick setup. Using 220 gr OTM the round delivers 500 ft lb energy at 100 yards.

Very quiet set-up. ó I agree itís not for everyone...
Yes, that is the difference. 98% of guys won't ever go through it all to suppress it. So it's just a cool guy caliber(or better known as the "me too" club). For those that will use it with a can, they get to work it(the caliber) to its potential. By circumstance that just happens to be what it's for in the first place.
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Old 01-14-2018, 09:36 PM   #16
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Thread number 4,372,889 on this very subject.


Yes, you can.

Not sure why you would.

X39 has nearly identical ballistics and is much cheaper unless you reload. In which case, why bother.

Then there's the whole issue of using a can, barrel concentricity, piston system vs DI, ect....
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Old 01-14-2018, 10:33 PM   #17
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That's like chambering a AR in 5.45x39........WHY?
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Old 01-14-2018, 10:56 PM   #18
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Yes I have shot one, 300 blk in my opinion is a great caliber for suppressor use and if you want something different then do it. Also i have numerous caliber AK's that I run suppressor on and have zero issues. I have to say a lot of negative feedback about using suppressor on AK's well I use them on multiple calibers and never had any issues just make sure your barrels are threaded concentric to keep from having a baffle strike. A few companies out there making some nice adjustable gas systems now to really tune them. Just my opinion
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Old 01-14-2018, 11:49 PM   #19
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The 300 BS is likely the most over hyped AR round there is.

All the super fast twist AR'S are a waste if you will never own a can .
. If you are going surpressor then the 300 whisper / 300 BS is a good choice on a AR or even a AK.

A 300 conversion is easy . Just rebarrel a 223 AK .
Lots of high end barrel blank choices that may give a accuracy advantage over the slim .310 bore choices. Better bullet choices as well.

The 300 has the benifit to reloaders who convert 223 brass .
The 7.62 x39 can be run suppressed. A adjustable GB is easy to make this happen .
Supersonic the 7.62 will out run the 300 and if you reload it can do it by a further amount .

On a build were I'm going to have interchangeable barrels I may do a 300 IF I get a surpressor for my 308 .
Otherwise no great reason to do a 300 BS AK.
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Old 01-15-2018, 12:44 AM   #20
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That's like chambering a AR in 5.45x39........WHY?
Exactly. I never bought a 300 blackout because I own an AK.
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Old 01-15-2018, 02:48 AM   #21
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That's like chambering a AR in 5.45x39........WHY?
Well in its defense back when they were doing that 7n6 was going for pennies on the dollar so it was much cheaper to shoot than 5.56.

Nowadays it is pointless unless you already stockpiled a ton of 5.45 yet hate the AK-74
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I think the conversion barrels are set up for Saigas because of the spring loaded fire pins. I could be remembering that wrong. I’ve also seen sub sonic 762x39 ammunition although expensive.
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Old 01-16-2018, 04:04 PM   #23
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I'm not aware of any factory AKs in .300bo.
I'd always wondered if one could take the thin stem Saiga .223 bolt and drop it in a 7.62x39 AK, but other than to say it can be done, what's the point? If one did make a .300bo AK, it'd probably need a spring loaded Saiga firing pin to avoid slam fires. "You Americans and your soft primers..."

I probably shoot more .300bo out of my ARs than .223. I like .30 caliber holes. But 7.62x39 typically has more energy.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to post if anyone's seen an AK74 re-chambered for FN 5.7x28. Cause I have a half box of that round in an old shoebox under my bed and I'd hate to see 'em go to waste...
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You are aware AR'S don't have a spring loaded firing pin right??
I suspect most 300 BO has the same primers as 223 or 5.56
And the ammo would run fine in a conversion.

That said I prefer a spring loaded pin on my 223 builds. I have had a slam fire on a factory 223 . Happened when I loaded it.
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Chambering an AK in 300blk is like re-barreling a 45-70 to a 444. I mean you could, but why?
Ummmm, .444 marlin is WAY more powerful than a 45-70. AK in .444 would be devastating. bout the same as a .50 Beowulf.
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Saiga 223 with a barrel swap gets you a 300blk AK
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Actually, the AK Guy on Facebook made a One Of, in .300blkout. using a custom magwell to use AR mags.
https://youtu.be/WUGBRHDdahs

this guy ^ "The AK Guy"

- same guy that was gonna build a .50 cal AK,

do what you want to but..

ummm NO..

why pay any attention to anyone refers to himself as "The AK Guy" ?
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Many hunting rifles/platforms come in several calibers from 22lr on up including 2.23/5.56, 7.62x39, 300 Blackout, 308, etc.... ARs and Veprs did as well before they were banned. I don't get what the big deal is.... It would make perfect sense for a guy who was already invested in AR mags and reloading.... Heck, AKs even come in 2.23 when the AK74 is available with similar ballistics... OP's question isn't that idiotic at all INHO...
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https://youtu.be/WUGBRHDdahs

this guy ^ "The AK Guy"

- same guy that was gonna build a .50 cal AK,

do what you want to but..

ummm NO..

why pay any attention to anyone refers to himself as "The AK Guy" ?
Yeah, how's the AK50 coming along?
What a dildo...
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Yeah, how's the AK50 coming along?
What a dildo...
when I was 1st getting into AK building I clicked around ytube and found some of his "AK building" vids watched all of about 3 mins of one,
- til he described doing the layout out the FCG holes and using a template and transfer punch but didn't own a transfer punch..

I didn't know shit from shinola about building AKs, but I knew, right fast & in a hurry that this guy was not worth watching/listening to.
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Ummmm, .444 marlin is WAY more powerful than a 45-70. AK in .444 would be devastating. bout the same as a .50 Beowulf.
If by WAY more powerful, you mean a bit faster with much lighter loads (more energy on paper), and equal velocity at 300ish grains, then yes.
I was attempting to make a comparison with these two very similar cartridges. There are better examples out there, but for whatever reason my mind was stuck on old classic brush gun cartridges.
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The main reason I see to do this is if you just like the AK more than the AR. I personally love 300BLK. Plus reloading 300 subs will be way better than 7.62x39 and it should be cheaper.
This is all assuming you are getting into a 300blk and already have a silencer for it and that you reload. Without those two things I can see why people hate on it because it's expensive to buy if not reloading and without a can I'd rather shoot 7.62x39 too. If you reload it though and you are shooting it suppressed I don't see any reason not to have one. I even shoot deer (supers) and varmits (subs) with mine. It's not an AK though, but they are out there. As someone said upthread you can get a barrel from AKbuilder.
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