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Old 05-15-2017, 04:26 AM   #491
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Back in my day we measured groups from the center of the bullet hole to the center of the bullet hole. The centers of the 2 farthest apart established group size.

Center to center corrects for different sized calibers.

You don't measure outward from the center of the group and call a 3 inch spread 1.5 moa.

That's not right.

A little cluster of holes that measure 1.047 inch center to center at 100 yards is moa.
I know right!
When I watched the video I was thinking wtf, maybe his upper was free
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Old 05-16-2017, 09:26 PM   #492
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I plan on getting one of these at some point. Anyone have good pictures of the barrel nut? Im wondering if it would be possible to adapt a different handguard to the gun.

Failing that, if we could at least get a drop in quad rail, that would be nice.
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I plan on getting one of these at some point. Anyone have good pictures of the barrel nut? Im wondering if it would be possible to adapt a different handguard to the gun.

Failing that, if we could at least get a drop in quad rail, that would be nice.
https://i.imgur.com/2k6vshu.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/q7j9zKw.jpg

Looks like a DD barrel nut. I won't add more as they are big and I will probably already get yelled at.

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It's surprising how this dropped off the radar so quickly. I mean, how can you compete in a marketplace where nearly any budget DI Aero, Ruger, or S&W will be incredibly reliable and produce 1.0-1.5" groups with quality match ammunition (OOTB). Even my $500 Ruger AR-556 ran 500 rounds of steel-case wolf, back-to-back in one range session OOTB with no failures. Yet, we get this gas-piston, true military upper that is posting 3" groups and is somewhat unreliable from reports here and other sites.

Am I the only one disappointed?
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Old 05-17-2017, 10:09 AM   #495
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No, you are not the only one disappointed.
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The OD one is getting the barrel chopped to 12 inches. Both are on registered lowers.



I had one of these YHM Railed Gas blocks sitting around and was going to do the same thing you did with my T91 upper, but when I did a test fit I found the barrel OD to be too small for the YHM Gas Block .750 to clamp.

Took out my calipers and the T91 barrel is around .650ish in diameter. The gas block's shoulder tapers down to that diameter, which means if one side of the YHM gas block would be clamping on an angled surface.

Did you have to do a ton of grinding/fitting to get yours on or am I missing something? I don't think YHM makes a .625 railed clamp on gas block, so I'm a bit lost on how to copy what you did.

Any help would be great, your rilfes are the best ones I've seen...love the colors, I'm partial to Foliage Green myself, yours looks OD, but still good stuff.
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I had one of these YHM Railed Gas blocks sitting around and was going to do the same thing you did with my T91 upper, but when I did a test fit I found the barrel OD to be too small for the YHM Gas Block .750 to clamp.

Took out my calipers and the T91 barrel is around .650ish in diameter. The gas block's shoulder tapers down to that diameter, which means if one side of the YHM gas block would be clamping on an angled surface.

Did you have to do a ton of grinding/fitting to get yours on or am I missing something? I don't think YHM makes a .625 railed clamp on gas block, so I'm a bit lost on how to copy what you did.

Any help would be great, your rilfes are the best ones I've seen...love the colors, I'm partial to Foliage Green myself, yours looks OD, but still good stuff.
.75mm steel shims will allow a clean fit. Barrel is .675.
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.75mm steel shims will allow a clean fit. Barrel is .675.
I had a feeling you used shims, but wasn't sure. Thanks for sharing, gives me something to do when the kid's napping.

I hope Wolf brings in more parts, I like my A2 carry handle on mine now but the proper one would be nice.

Thank you again for your help!
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The market will bring $$$ down to $450. -$500. ? Other wise ...............
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Back in my day we measured groups from the center of the bullet hole to the center of the bullet hole. The centers of the 2 farthest apart established group size.

Center to center corrects for different sized calibers.

You don't measure outward from the center of the group and call a 3 inch spread 1.5 moa.

That's not right.

A little cluster of holes that measure 1.047 inch center to center at 100 yards is moa.
You can't really measure center to center very precisely but you are right. If you want to actually measure a group size grab your calipers and measure edge to edge of your farthest hits to establish your Raw Group Size. Then subtract that number by the diameter of the bullet you are shooting to get your "Final Group Size".

That is your group size in inches, then scale it accordingly [.08" @ 25yds = .32moa; .36" @ 50yds = .72moa; 2" group @ 200yds = 1moa; etc]
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In case anyone is looking for a more authentic A1 style carry handle for the T91 upper they can be obtained HERE.

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In case anyone is looking for a more authentic A1 style carry handle for the T91 upper they can be obtained HERE.

I have one of these on a retroish build I did. They are made nice.

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So whats the general consensus on these uppers? Is it truly worth the $600?
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So whats the general consensus on these uppers? Is it truly worth the $600?
I'd love to get one, but having no shell deflector as a lefty is a big turn off. They seem legit from everything I've read up on them though...
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I'd love to get one, but having no shell deflector as a lefty is a big turn off. They seem legit from everything I've read up on them though...
I'm a lefty as well,damn.
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So whats the general consensus on these uppers? Is it truly worth the $600?
That all depends on how bad you want one. I bought one to clone a T91, also thought these were going to be real deal military-issued t91 uppers.
I believe they will be cheaper in 4-6 months($400-$500), also any issues should be fixed by then.
Issues;
super tight headspace is common.
Couple reports of the takedown pin holes not lining up with the lower.
Only issues I have with mine so far is tight headspace, ejecting a live round is almost impossible at times. Functions 100% though.
I still like it enough not to sell it, even though I could get the 600 I paid for it. Also haven't had enough range time with it. ( only couple hundred rounds)
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That all depends on how bad you want one. I bought one to clone a T91, also thought these were going to be real deal military-issued t91 uppers.
I believe they will be cheaper in 4-6 months($400-$500), also any issues should be fixed by then.
Issues;
super tight headspace is common.
Couple reports of the takedown pin holes not lining up with the lower.
Only issues I have with mine so far is tight headspace, ejecting a live round is almost impossible at times. Functions 100% though.

Thank you for the info, much appreciated!
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Finally got to shoot mine yesterday!

So I disassembled the gas system to get all the oil off and put it back together, took me a little bit even though I had done it before-I was fully expecting that this gun would have some initial teething issues as I had see before online

Well I sure had issues right off the bat for the first 10 rounds, really expected it, not worried, put in a 30 round mag (mind you I'm shooting just to shoot/break in) and notice that the gas system wasn't even extracting any rounds! wow this must really need a break in! ...No not really, I'm just a fucking retard, I realized I had forgotten to use the swing mount/locking mechanism to make the gas system captive again, so no gas was going through to the gas system..

I slap myself silly, lock the system in, and burned through the remaining 25 rounds with 0 issues-and that thing shoots like a gem once you correctly reassemble it, probably no break in needed
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Finally got to shoot mine yesterday!

So I disassembled the gas system to get all the oil off and put it back together, took me a little bit even though I had done it before-I was fully expecting that this gun would have some initial teething issues as I had see before online

Well I sure had issues right off the bat for the first 10 rounds, really expected it, not worried, put in a 30 round mag (mind you I'm shooting just to shoot/break in) and notice that the gas system wasn't even extracting any rounds! wow this must really need a break in! ...No not really, I'm just a fucking retard, I realized I had forgotten to use the swing mount/locking mechanism to make the gas system captive again, so no gas was going through to the gas system..

I slap myself silly, lock the system in, and burned through the remaining 25 rounds with 0 issues-and that thing shoots like a gem once you correctly reassemble it, probably no break in needed


Thanks for sharing! How does this thing eject shells, would there be any issues for a lefty shooting this since like Hoevito mentioned in his post above theres no shell deflector?
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Thanks for sharing! How does this thing eject shells, would there be any issues for a lefty shooting this since like Hoevito mentioned in his post above theres no shell deflector?
Very consistently to the 4 to 5 O'Clock, If I were a lefty I would be a bit concerned about the rounds coming at my right side
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Very consistently to the 4 to 5 O'Clock, If I were a lefty I would be a bit concerned about the rounds coming at my right side
Aaaah damn, thanks for the info.
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Aaaah damn, thanks for the info.
Yeah, I wanted one too but that's the biggest turnoff as a lefty.
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For anyone interested in finishing these out to a "clone" T91, I got in the mail the other day these airsoft parts from a company in Hong Kong. The shipping took months, not weeks, because they were out of stock, but the parts seem durable enough. The rear sight is even made out of metal, seems mostly aluminum. The buttstock, as someone posted earlier in this thread pointed out, is loose, but it does fit and function, just has some rattle. Kind of reminiscent of putting a commercial spec stock on a mil-spec buffer tube. Annoying but doable. I'll have to see how she shoots.

The parts came from a company called KYAirsoft in Hong Kong.
https://kyairsoft.com/shop/category/...t91-series-308

The hard part was figuring out what to order, here is the list of all the parts, but oddly, when I got them the buttstock was fully assembled.



Anyway, here they are on the gun:


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The rear sight is even made out of metal, seems mostly aluminum.
Does the rear sight hold zero?
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Does the rear sight hold zero?
Haven't had it to the range with this stuff on yet, will let you know when I do. It seems very durable though.
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Does the rear sight hold zero?
Quick update. I wouldn't suggest wasting money on this rear sight. I couldn't get it to zero, much less see if it would hold zero, lol. I was really hoping that it was made to the same specs as the real one (keep in mind this is intended for an airsoft gun), but it doesn't appear to be.

I had to lower the front sight post all the way to it's stop and I was still shooting low. That's with the shorter of the front sights that's included with the upper.

I went ahead and got some groups with it even with it shooting some low and was able to hit the 300 yard plates by aiming high, but it's not ideal.

Also, there is a cross pin that sits inside the adjustment dial of the rear sight that holds it together. I noticed under recoil this cross pin was drifting out. I could probably find a way to keep this from happening though.

Lastly, when moving the peep from the larger peep to the small peep, I noticed it turning the dial as it did, lol. If you put a little pressure on the dial as you turn the peep you can prevent this though.

All in all, too many issues to deal with and/or worry about so I'll be replacing it or scoping the rifle.

With this and the loose fitting rear buttstock, about the only thing I'd recommend from this experiment of using the airsoft parts is the pistol grip, and that's only if you want it for the T91 look, it doesn't offer any ergonomic advantage over anything else.
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I have probably a stupid question about these. Since they shipped the barrel blanks over here and they were finished here in the states; would the finished a1 barrels be considered a foreign or domestic made part?
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I have probably a stupid question about these. Since they shipped the barrel blanks over here and they were finished here in the states; would the finished a1 barrels be considered a foreign or domestic made part?
IIRC they would be considered a domestic part as are a non functional steel pipe without rifling. I think there is some percentage value applied to achieving a functional part plus you cannot import barrels ergo, domestic manufacture.
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For anyone wanting the pistol grip, stock, and carry handle to fulfill the T91 look there is a company selling some now. I haven't ordered anything from them so I'm not endorsing them and I'm not sure if it is anything more than airsoft parts, but thought I'd share.

https://www.ecwid.com/store/t91tactical/
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Can you compare your air-soft rear sight to the one pictured in this link?
Curious if their stuff is genuine.
I'm also wondering why the 2 types of FSB w/rail will not work on the Wolf A1..


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For anyone wanting the pistol grip, stock, and carry handle to fulfill the T91 look there is a company selling some now. I haven't ordered anything from them so I'm not endorsing them and I'm not sure if it is anything more than airsoft parts, but thought I'd share.

https://www.ecwid.com/store/t91tactical/
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Can you compare your air-soft rear sight to the one pictured in this link?
Curious if their stuff is genuine.
I'm also wondering why the 2 types of FSB w/rail will not work on the Wolf A1..
Mine pretty much looks identical to the one on their site. Looks to have the same attachment to the rail, spring loaded pin that you have to use a punch or something to lift up on it as you slide the sight on and then the spring tension pushes that pin down into a slot on your rail. That seems to work okay on mine, doesn't wanna budge after it's on there. That little cross pin on the side of the adjustment dial tries to work itself free while shooting on mine though.
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I'm also wondering why the 2 types of FSB w/rail will not work on the Wolf A1..
The Taiwanese T91 has a different barrel profile than what the barrel has Wolf is offering.
The barrel on mine is less than the AR .750 diameter. The barrel on the Taiwanese T91 is smaller. If you google pics of T91 vs the Wolf gun you can see the difference.
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iircc mine is 0.747
So if someone ever offers a Real Taiwanese T91 FSB I could have the barrel turned down to fit.
All hope is not lost.

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The Taiwanese T91 has a different barrel profile than what the barrel has Wolf is offering.
The barrel on mine is less than the AR .750 diameter. The barrel on the Taiwanese T91 is smaller. If you google pics of T91 vs the Wolf gun you can see the difference.
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