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Old 11-16-2017, 04:00 PM   #36
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Oooh snap! no reply!
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Old 11-20-2017, 01:59 PM   #37
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Oooh snap! no reply!
I never expected him to reply to that..... it seems he falls in to a specific group. Usually they will drop (bs) and run, no solid prof or explanation. They chime in on anything, knives, optics, politics or anything negative (opinion based) about their own country.

If the sight is good enough to be adopted by military I'm sure it's no junk. It has been under development by some time and it's a refined version from original.



.........or, there's something actual to his statement and the online service was cut off to Internet café in his village.

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Old 01-31-2018, 04:42 AM   #38
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Hey, just wanted to supply a a pic of a 130 and the notable differences to the earlier 120.
1. 130 can take either battery (as mentioned above), you can see this difference in the battery compartment that looks like its stepped up along its end cap area.
2. Viewing window or sight glass is 25mmx25mm.
3. Power/brightness wheel has a wider rate of settings

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Thanks to Rob for letting me use this ak-12 pic.

Ratnik modernization upgraded AK.

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Old 05-01-2018, 08:53 AM   #39
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Super curious how these things are panning out, in particular against their 'inspiration' the now infamous Eotech by L3.

It must at least have solid cold weather performance. Still haven't seen these flood optic outlets or ebay yet.
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Old 05-01-2018, 10:40 AM   #40
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If you are buying it for a сollection, then there is nothing to worry about.
If you want to actually use it... Good luck. You will need it. A lot of it.
ok...?? WTF is this all about?
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that individual never reared his head again to elaborate. The 1p87 worked fine for me, I just prefer a little magnification these days.
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Old 05-02-2018, 10:11 PM   #42
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This thread reminds me I need to finish my review. I bought Wulf's and ended up with a magnifier from a different source


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Old 05-03-2018, 12:49 AM   #43
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Nice!

Can't wait to see how that combo stacks up to your other optics.
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Old 05-04-2018, 09:54 PM   #44
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looks great Chris! Cant wait to hear how that magnifier worked with the 2nd aiming point for the military reticle. If it works as designed. I see ya got the long jupitor rial too.
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Development completed in 2015 on the ROC "Warrior". Recommended for adoption.
Developer and manufacturer - JSC "Plant Jupiter" (Valdai). Chief Designer - M.V. Chugunov.

Composition:
- collimator sight 1P87;
- 1P90 telescope;
- night monocular 1PN138;
- laser designator 1K241;
- Additional devices and brackets for fastening the elements of the DNPC on the weapon and the protective helmet.

Reflex Scope 1P87 ("Valdai PK120")
Designed to reduce target targeting time and increase the accuracy of small-caliber small-caliber small arms during the day at dusk, as well as at night when used in tandem with a night vision monocular
Apparent increase - 1 times.
Angular field of view - 12 degrees. Window size 25x25 mm.
The transmittance in the whole range is at least 80%.
The alignment range of the aiming line (in height and direction) is +/- 0-60., The alignment step is 0.25, etc.
Type of battery - element type "AA", 1.5 V.
The operating time from one element with an average "medium" brightness value of at least 1000 h.
Weight sight - 298 g.
Overall dimensions - 133x80x53 mm.
The operating temperature range is -40 ... + 50 o C.

The pipeless design of the sight minimally obstructs the target, leaving the wide field of view “open”, the screen rim is almost imperceptible, which makes it possible to control the situation with two eyes and increase the effectiveness of hitting targets especially moving and appearing for a short time. The shape and size of the aiming mark elements are specified by the customer.
The large range of brightness adjustment of the aiming mark allows using the sight both on a sunny day and at night in tandem with a night vision monocular. The number of gradations of changes in the brightness level of the aiming mark to 9 levels: 4 night and 5 day levels.
High-transmittance clarified optics (more than 80%) in the visible and infrared range allows you to work up to deep twilight in the visible range and keep the luminosity in the infrared range when working through the 1PN138 night monocular.
The sight, unlike most "red dot", has no parallax at a distance of 100 to 200 m and is completely devoid of aberration parallax regardless of distance. This is achieved by a more complex and expensive prism collimation system. Thanks to this, the sight can have an aiming mark of almost any kind, and not just a “point”.
The sight allows for unmasking radiation in the direction of the target, as well as the glare of external radiation in both day and night conditions.
The sight is mounted on a Picatinny-type guide bar using an integrated mount.
The design of the sight is waterproof and allows immersion in water up to 2 meters for 1 hour without loss of efficiency.
When partially blocking optics (snow, dirt, etc.), the sight retains the possibility of aiming.
Aiming range can be increased using a magnifying tube installed behind a collimator sight.

Visual tube 1P90 ("Valdai ZT410")
Designed for observation, study the terrain and consideration of distant objects in the daytime.
When installed in conjunction with a collimator sight, the 1P87 can be used for aiming firing with increased magnification.
Apparent increase - 5 times.
Angular field of view - 5 degrees.
The transmittance in the whole range is at least 80%.
Resolution - 22 ”.
Exit pupil: diameter - 6 mm, removal - 70 mm.
The range of diopter adjustment - +/- 3 diopters.
Weight of sight - 180 g
Overall dimensions - 122х45х46 mm.
The operating temperature range is -50 ... + 50 o C.

Constructive and technical features of the optic tube:
- full compatibility with collimator sight;
- wide field of view;
- special high-aperture optics provides high resolution throughout the field of view;
- ultralight construction of a special aluminum alloy;
- tightness when immersed in water to a depth of 1 meter.
Features of the visual tube:
- together with the collimator sight, the visual magnifying tube allows to significantly increase the range of ISO aimed shooting;
- the visual tube is installed behind a collimator sight;
- installation of the optic tube behind the scope does not change the position of the midpoint of the weapon and does not make changes to the optical axis of the whole scheme;
- no need for additional alignment when installing and removing the optic tube;
- A specially designed flip-up bracket allows quick installation and removal of the visual tube from the optical axis with a collimator sight.

Night monocular 1PN138 ("Valdai-MN120")
It is intended for covert surveillance in low light conditions and aimed fire at night when used in conjunction with a collimator sight or laser target designator.
Type of image intensifier - generation 3.
Apparent increase - 1 times, with a nozzle - 3 or 5 times.
Angular field of view - 40 degrees.
Lens: focal length - 27.5 mm., Aperture - 1: 1.2.
Removal of the exit pupil - 25 mm.
Range diopter adjustment - +/- 5 diopters.
Type of battery - element type "AA", 1.5 V.
Work time from one element - at least 60 hours.
Monocular weight - 350 g
Overall dimensions - 120x70x52 mm.
The operating temperature range is -40 ... + 50 o C.

Constructive and technical features of the night monocular:
- built-in IR illuminator with a wavelength invisible to the naked eye, provides the ability to covertly observe in complete darkness both at close and remote distances;
- special high-aperture optics provides high resolution throughout the field of view;
- Electron-optical converters (EOC) of the last 3rd generation are used;
- automatic indication in the field of view of turning on the IR illuminator and the discharge of the power source;
- ultra-light construction of a special high-strength composite material ensures tightness when immersed in water to a depth of 1 meter;
- control of the device with one hand, including the glove;
- compatible with laser target designators;
Features of the night monocular:
- use on a helmet with a flip-up reliably fixing fastening as an observant device;
- use with a 3-fold or 5-fold attachment for observation at long distances;
- use on the weapon with fastening on the Picatinny rail with a collimator sight;
- the use of a cat-eye eyecup eliminates eyepiece de-masking at night.

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Old 02-02-2019, 07:59 AM   #46
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I've got a few more photos from last year. 1P87 I got from Wulf is still running strong









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Old 02-02-2019, 10:59 AM   #47
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Good to hear Chris! Im still waiting on some other toys, although I scored another 1p87. It does have the dot and fragmented "dot" ring reticle.

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Old 02-03-2019, 01:16 AM   #48
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where can I find the magnifier?
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Keep watching auction sights or befriend some cute Russian girls. Where'd TX get his? Bear was the only place I saw who had them retail wise.

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Old 02-04-2019, 05:09 PM   #50
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thanks as always, probably order in the next few weeks when I get my bonus.

cute Russian girls won’t be an option for me anytime soon LoL.
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Gotcha, have any pics of your 1p87?
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Keep watching auction sights or befriend some cute Russian girls. Where'd TX get his? Bear was the only place I saw who had them retail wise.
Bear is where I got the long Jupiter rail and the Jupiter magnifier
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thanks Z.

Wulfe I need to learn how to post pics here.
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The updated 2017 version on the new Ak-308, notice its larger and has a wider window. Also the window is fully covered whereas the older versions were recessed, which would allow debris or foreign material to build up; Like Fn snow lol!



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What's interesting is unlike NPZ, this company did not manufacture any military (or civilian) optics that I know of. Throughout USSR time they did make tons worth of camera (SLR) lenses.
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I know seems like they’ve been making and selling some serious units to the military as of late. So far they’ve produced pk120,pk122, pk130 and zt310 to the military and been granted a military designation number for said optic units.

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Old 03-09-2019, 02:07 PM   #57
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Would be cool to get my hands on that 2017 model. Or really, any of the Ratnik stuff for AKs.
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900 + bones there going for 2017-19 model. Right now, things change though.
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Anyone know where to find those Russian Holographic Magical Merlin Sights lately? Buying one is on my bucket list
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https://grey-shop.ru/Tactical-Module...ay-PK122-scope

or 39bullets site has them.
the merlin was a prototype, its grau index "name" is 1p87 or pk120,122,130 etc.

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Nice, thanks for the link!

Been looking at getting one of these as well, but the price always makes me think twice. I also have an eotech on my current akm...wonder if I should sell it to make way for funds...
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Just keep the eotech, if you have to sell anything to gather funds for some other optic I wouldn’t recommend that you divert funds to non- u.s backed tech. You’ll have no support if you break it or the unit has an issue. Functionally they fill the same niche, the Russian unit is for the cool or unique factor or you collect ratnik/ modernized Russian gear.
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A bit off topic, but does anyone know anything about that rear sight assembly on the shotgun? Is it built in, or is it a pic mount?
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Use the “SEARCH” function of our forum.

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Btw civilian PK-120 has different reticle, not like on 1p87

I don’t think this sight worth the money. Most feedback from the army is negative. It’s heavy and according to manual operating time is 12 hours on one battery.
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Heavy, hmmm compared to what? my Eotech weighs 12 oz., my tru-dot for weighs 11. also i don't know where you got yours but I left mine on an entire week while I was in California for a Helicopter expo and I came home it was still on, so i know it last at least longer than 12 hours. Hell not even the crappy gen 1 Kobra had that kind of shit battery life.

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Looks tasty. What is the reticule pattern on this one?
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slightly tighter circle than my other non military pk120, also has more of a crosshair element. Also unlike the earlier 1p87 which used a prism, these newer one just use a mirror to generate the optical image in the viewing area. Makes them slightly cheaper to produce i guess! The outside glass is glued on to prevent dirt from obstructing the sighting window, thus making a smooth surface you can just rub the fifth off, unlike my 1p87's where the Oregon rain gives me grief when my rifle is slung and water builds up in the sights bathtub area lol!

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