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Old 01-10-2016, 12:19 PM   #141
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I almost sold my Vepr54r because of the magazine issue. Glad I didn't. I'll be sleeping in the guest bedroom for a looooong time after these become available.
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THANKS, CSSPECS!! I REALLY APPRECIATE IT! YOU ARE A BIG DEAL FOR DOING THIS AND THE M77PS MAGS.
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Overall everything is going smoothly.. I do need to order more roughing carbides, they worked better than expected so we are going to stick with that method.
Are you using inserted cutters?
We use inserted cutters for face mills, chamfer mills and a 3/4 inch end mill.
I have a few options for each. I don't like the insert end mills we have for tool steel, they vibrate excessively and seem to have poor tool life. Odds are that our mill is just not rigid enough to run them on tool steel.

For bulk removal on tool steel we are running a 3/8" rougher at full depth and doing a sort of HSM toolpath. The machine seems to like it and the cubic inch per minute removal rate is almost 3x higher than the indexable, tool life is better than I expected. I would use a larger rougher but the feeds and speeds calculator says the 3/8" is better for our application.

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Awesome! much appreciated.
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Old 01-10-2016, 11:50 PM   #145
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I almost sold my Vepr54r because of the magazine issue. Glad I didn't. I'll be sleeping in the guest bedroom for a looooong time after these become available.
I sold my 1st 2 54r Veprs because of the magazine frustration. I am trying to hold onto my 3rd and look ahead to real mags.
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I sold my 1st 2 54r Veprs because of the magazine frustration. I am trying to hold onto my 3rd and look ahead to real mags.
I was tinkering with the idea of selling mine for the fact I cold only get 10 round magazines. A 15 round mag changes all of that.
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Old 01-14-2016, 01:38 PM   #147
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Waiting patiently.

Got a VEPR in the safe that's ready for prime time
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Old 01-14-2016, 02:00 PM   #148
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Sabre5g,

Trump is Hillary puppet. Check out his support over years and it was Clintons.
I hated Bush for many reason, but I don't scream fuck Bush on forums. Whether you like it or not he is President.

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Trump is Hillary puppet. Check out his support over years and it was Clintons.
I hated Bush for many reason, but I don't scream fuck Bush on forums. Whether you like it or not he is President.

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Get that commie shit out of this thread. This thread is about the final coming of reliable aftermarket x54R magazines, not electing socialist leaders.
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Old 01-14-2016, 02:43 PM   #150
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CS SPECS , you guys are the BEST ............ Can you make cheap 54r ammo next ?
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russianmaksim Please keep politics out of this thread. It is already five pages.


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CS SPECS , you guys are the BEST ............ Can you make cheap 54r ammo next ?
I wish.. But sadly that is outside of my abilities.
I believe I have been saying to stock up since around early 2012. Would have been about $75 per tin back then. I have 10+ crates of the stuff.


As for an update.. I've been working on a machine rebuild, Mark is still working away on the 54r tooling. I think he is at part 13 of 14 for magazine forming. So we are getting near to testing our theory.

I have not had a chance to put his video clips together, he recorded something like 30 hours worth, so I need to do some major clipping to make the six minute goal. Most of the videos get deleted directly so it is not much work, I just have not had the time.

Once we have the body tested I think there are another 20 pieces of tooling to make, all smaller less complicated parts.

We have a couple options for floor plates we want feedback on, I'll post them once we have better renders of them.
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that's great to hear, i hope it pays off for you guys tensfold, the real vepr pioneer ;p
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Old 01-14-2016, 10:42 PM   #153
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7.62 hunter.
yes this is about great CSSPECS magazines, but when some have something political in their threat, I will answer too.
Now Please learn what is communist before calling something commie and FDR was socialist too. But that last Political statement I put out. From now on its only about magazines.

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Old 01-14-2016, 10:45 PM   #154
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I wish.. But sadly that is outside of my abilities.
I believe I have been saying to stock up since around early 2012. Would have been about $75 per tin back then. I have 10+ crates of the stuff.


As for an update.. I've been working on a machine rebuild, Mark is still working away on the 54r tooling. I think he is at part 13 of 14 for magazine forming. So we are getting near to testing our theory.

I have not had a chance to put his video clips together, he recorded something like 30 hours worth, so I need to do some major clipping to make the six minute goal. Most of the videos get deleted directly so it is not much work, I just have not had the time.

Once we have the body tested I think there are another 20 pieces of tooling to make, all smaller less complicated parts.

We have a couple options for floor plates we want feedback on, I'll post them once we have better renders of them.
Awesome guys, I can't wait. I stop buying SGM Magazines for 54r rifle.
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Bernie is a POS commie pinko. An old red who needs to foad.

And I cant wait for metal mags!
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Old 01-15-2016, 05:55 AM   #156
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Everyone, please keep your politics to yourself (or discuss in the general/politics section). Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Csspecs is giving us awesome info about these precious 54R mags we all desperately want and need and I would hate to see this thread closed down and locked because you all can't play nicely on a subject not related to the creation of these mags.
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7.62 hunter.
yes this is about great CSSPECS magazines, but when some have something political in their threat, I will answer too.
Now Please learn what is communist before calling something commie and FDR was socialist too. But that last Political statement I put out. From now on its only about magazines.

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Unless someone modified their post, you started it. The "post" you commented on is actually the guys signature line, it's automatically added to his posts. So we can just stop this.

Anyone posting politics below this post:

NO MAGS FOR YOU, COME BACK ONE YEAR!!!

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CS SPECS , you guys are the BEST ............ Can you make cheap 54r ammo next ?
Maybe make an SVD???
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Alright no more politics, I will not answers on signatures no more. From now on its just magazine business
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I just wonder, is it possible you guys expand your Vepr 12 Mags from 8 round to 10 round in future?
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Ugh...I'm so happy with my .308 Vepr especially thanks to my csspecs mags. I was content not being pulled too hard to 54R. Wasn't worth the trouble. But now that trouble is about to go away?
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We hope to solve the issue.. I'll have $20k+ into this before I know one way or another. So I have some skin in the game at this point.

I hope to have a stamping in hand Tuesday or so... I'll know more then.
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We hope to solve the issue.. I'll have $20k+ into this before I know one way or another. So I have some skin in the game at this point.

I hope to have a stamping in hand Tuesday or so... I'll know more then.
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We use inserted cutters for face mills, chamfer mills and a 3/4 inch end mill.
I have a few options for each. I don't like the insert end mills we have for tool steel, they vibrate excessively and seem to have poor tool life. Odds are that our mill is just not rigid enough to run them on tool steel.

For bulk removal on tool steel we are running a 3/8" rougher at full depth and doing a sort of HSM toolpath. The machine seems to like it and the cubic inch per minute removal rate is almost 3x higher than the indexable, tool life is better than I expected. I would use a larger rougher but the feeds and speeds calculator says the 3/8" is better for our application.
We have a 1.5" iscar profiler that makes the damn floor shake when its being used. It runs like shit on 4140 but likes s7 and h13. We typically run it at S930 with a .065 step over on profile (F8). The problem i've seen is that if you are cutting radii on corners it will take a huge cut and screech like hell.

Do you guys keep an excell log of the speeds and feeds that work well for tools/ steel you are working with?
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Finally a good magazine I won't have to sanders the mag lips to get them to feed properly.
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i was about to buy some oem 5 rounders when a picture frame fell off the wall and smacked my head ... i caaaan wait for Csspecs ;p
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I am so glad these are becoming a reality. Thanks!!!
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This makes my night. I have 2 of the factory 5 rounders and that's it. As others have said, eagerly waiting and ready to buy.

Thanks for what you do to support the VEPR 54r shooters!
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We hope to have an video update soon. We had a camera battery issue that messed up recording ep 2 of the 54r, we intend to fill the gaps best we can tomorrow while the mill is cutting other stuff.

We do have a few updates to existing products we are also working on. We found an issue with our Saiga-12 magazines and some 3" shells and are working on fixing them with a follower update, update will be available to anyone with our Saiga-12 magazines, for free once the update is done.
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Are you guys going to do Zastava M76 magazines? It's a great gun but the 10 round magazines are just horrible. What about just a floorplate-spring-follower drop in repair kit?
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Are you guys going to do Zastava M76 magazines? It's a great gun but the 10 round magazines are just horrible. What about just a floorplate-spring-follower drop in repair kit?
There's a 90% fix to the nose-diving follower that AKBlue turned me on to a few years ago. If you want I can dig up pics and description of what to do. You'll need a buddy with a welder. (Tig welder???) Maybe he'll chime in.
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yes this is about great CSSPECS magazines, but when some have something political in their threat, I will answer too.
Now Please learn what is communist before calling something commie and FDR was socialist too. But that last Political statement I put out. From now on its only about magazines.

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F*** out of here with that sh**. Nonetheless, we are patiently waiting for csspec mags.

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I like my M77 and Vepr Csspec mags. Just sitting here, twittling my thumbs, looking at the clock, dreaming about 54r mags.................
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