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Old 08-18-2018, 11:51 PM   #176
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Not really a review but some mall ninja type, watch for function mainly.
Yeah I had seen the LAV video of it before. Nicely done but too short imo for something of substance. He puts a great video together for a infomercial of sorts. Just wish he went more in depth for his videos. But I guess that isn't really his type of videos. I'll check out the mall ninja one.

You guys are slowly convincing me I need to get a 553RP in my life.
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Old 08-19-2018, 01:05 AM   #177
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If you get one and later decide its not for you, you'll not have difficulty either getting your money back out of it or even making a few bucks. With rather few of these guns in-country, the demand tends to out strip the supply. That said, I am still more of a fan of the 5.56 caliber versions but that's just me.
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Old 08-19-2018, 06:57 AM   #178
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Do the rails hold zero? I do not like that there is a pic rail that is just held in there by tension... those tend to not be reliable.
The rails will hold zero in my opinion. Some say the aluminum B&T rails flex a bit. If you want a little more confidence in it I have a steel rail I have listed on marketplace no flex at all with that and very tight lockdown no way it is moving!
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Old 08-19-2018, 11:41 AM   #179
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Yeah I had seen the LAV video of it before. Nicely done but too short imo for something of substance. He puts a great video together for a infomercial of sorts. Just wish he went more in depth for his videos. But I guess that isn't really his type of videos. I'll check out the mall ninja one.

You guys are slowly convincing me I need to get a 553RP in my life.
I (believe) if you add up all the components with the upper and lower and parts, it will be about the same price, for a complete weapon. You really need the complete weapon with matching serial #'s (upper and lower) if you want to maximize the potential for the item, to appreciate in price.

If you decide to sell the 553R, it will not be difficult to obtain what you put into the pistol. I do not know of any hi-end {Eurotrash} 7.62x39 weapon aside from the 553R. It is kind of a unique niche product. Dave has approximately 69 coming in over the next year. Buy it.
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.....If you decide to sell the 553R, it will not be difficult to obtain what you put into the pistol. I do not know of any hi-end {Eurotrash} 7.62x39 weapon aside from the 553R. It is kind of a unique niche product. Dave has approximately 69 coming in over the next year. Buy it.

Or more. There was a 553RP on GB that went for $4500 months ago.
Even the early 551 rifles from the 80ís are anywhere from 8-12K and those were not new production guns. The very few available today (50 guns) will be comparable at some point.
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Or more. There was a 553RP on GB that went for $4500 months ago.
Even the early 551 rifles from the 80ís are anywhere from 8-12K and those were not new production guns. The very few available today (50 guns) will be comparable at some point.
I would like to pick up another R. I have not yet shot the R, I purchased from Dave. Dave suggested the last fifty R's might be different - aside from the barrel length which is already spec'd, due to the approved Form 6.
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Old 08-19-2018, 01:32 PM   #182
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I would like to pick up another R. I have not yet shot the R, I purchased from Dave. Dave suggested the last fifty R's might be different - aside from the barrel length which is already spec'd, due to the approved Form 6.
How so? Speculation?
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How so? Speculation?
It was mentioned in one of the recent on-line FB chats.
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It was mentioned in one of the recent on-line FB chats.
Do you what changes were mentioned? Don't do FB
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Old 08-19-2018, 02:11 PM   #185
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Do you what changes were mentioned? Don't do FB
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He suggested that the R 'might' have some minor changes - perhaps limited to cosmetic fixes/diopters/different color handguards/steel lower etc... The potential changes ^^ I listed above, are speculative, on my part.

The potential changes might effect the final 50, to be imported some time, in 2019. Again - Dave did mention that the barrel length could not be changed, due to the length being spec'd on the approved Form 6.

I assume StormSG553 (Dragon Lady ) heard the same information.
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Old 08-19-2018, 05:50 PM   #186
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This might be my brain misfiring, but Dave might have mentioned that the last 50 553Rs might come with a 2 pos rather than 4 pos regulator.

Also yes, furniture might be black rather than green.
If the next price is $2,850, that kind of implies diopters over rail, since $200 more usually indecates that.


In the end, wait & see.

Depending on how these 551LBs turn out, i 'might' sell my LE trade in 551LB and keep one of these new ones. It worked out well with selling the preban 550SP and keeping the 550P afterall.
We'll see. If i do that, then i could keep both 553SB and 553LB w/o much worry.
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Not gonna lie, if the new batch of 553Rs have the diopter instead of the rail I may grab a new one and sell my 1st run one. Just a preference of mine. But would prefer to keep the 4 pos. gas valve especially since I plan on using my SDN-6 can on it

From JDIs facebook page, the 551 LB pistols! I believe most if not all have shipped.
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Old 08-20-2018, 03:37 AM   #188
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Did Dave confirm configuration?
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Old 08-20-2018, 05:09 AM   #189
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Did Dave confirm configuration?
Yes. Aluminum lower, diopter sights, black on black
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Old 08-21-2018, 06:02 PM   #190
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Mine is on its way to the shop!
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Old 08-21-2018, 11:11 PM   #191
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Mine is on its way to the shop!
Mine got into Philadelphia this evening. Only 20 miles away. Its listed as Thursday delivery. Fedex is a joke in the Philly area and hopefully they decide to deliver it tomorrow
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Old 08-22-2018, 03:46 AM   #192
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I am very please Dave was able to keep up his end and deliver all he promised earlier. I never doubted his word but,
Because of politics over in Switzerland, things weren't looking so bright back in May or June.
But in the last 6 weeks or so, we've gotten: 550P, 551LB, 553SB and 553LB in FDE, and 553SB and 553LB in HM. Plus several parts and accessories.


My 551LB is showing on its way to my city now, so might be in tomorrow.

I am planning to keep this 551LB and sell my LE trade in 551LB. All things equal, i'd rather keep the older gun, but with finances the way they are right now, best to be responsible and only keep the 'cheaper' gun thats only $3.4k lol.

I am still debating the 553SB and 553LB thing.
I think if the 553LB Heavy Metal didn't say "Heavy Metal" in huge letter on the side, I could be content with keeping just it and selling off the 553SB.
But damnit SAN, why put that huge billboard on the side? I am literally blind and can still see it! Otherwise, I really like the gun. Wonder if i could buff it out? lol


I have some other projects I'd like to put some money into here soon, so need to free a bit more up.
Guess I'll see how the 551LB LE does online and go from there.
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My 551LB arrived! Beautiful gun and excellent craftsman ship as always from SAN. Now I have to play safe tetris to make it fit lol. Just deciding if I want to put a standard stock on or a Swiss collapsing sidefolder. I will post up my Swiss family late tonight




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Mine came about an hour ago also.

I'd put a standard non-adj folder on it.
I say this because in the SAN catalogue, the standard seems to be diopters = traditional stock and rail = adjustable stock.
Seems logical to me.

The standard stock is made to work with the dopters, and the adjustments on the newer stock allow for a bit better use with optics depending on where they are mounted on the Pic rail.

And finally, SAN gets an order right and delivers as promised. These 551LBs are exactly the same as last year's 551SBs, just with a 17.8" barrel rather than 14.3".
It was nice to confirm that the inside of the flash hider was threaded too. Why it isn't on the 550? Maybe the STGW.90 doesn't always have the threads?
*shrug*

Its nice to have a complete Swiss family.

Pricy guns, but they seem to hold their value well. My parents used to put money into high interest CDs at the bank; not bad, 6%-7% return. Today though, CDs are like 1%.....2% if lucky, so screw that.
I guess my version of a CD is a SAN or HK firearm hehe.
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Mine came about an hour ago also.

I'd put a standard non-adj folder on it.
I say this because in the SAN catalogue, the standard seems to be diopters = traditional stock and rail = adjustable stock.
Seems logical to me.

The standard stock is made to work with the dopters, and the adjustments on the newer stock allow for a bit better use with optics depending on where they are mounted on the Pic rail.

And finally, SAN gets an order right and delivers as promised. These 551LBs are exactly the same as last year's 551SBs, just with a 17.8" barrel rather than 14.3".
It was nice to confirm that the inside of the flash hider was threaded too. Why it isn't on the 550? Maybe the STGW.90 doesn't always have the threads?
*shrug*

Its nice to have a complete Swiss family.

Pricy guns, but they seem to hold their value well. My parents used to put money into high interest CDs at the bank; not bad, 6%-7% return. Today though, CDs are like 1%.....2% if lucky, so screw that.
I guess my version of a CD is a SAN or HK firearm hehe.
Agreed on all counts. I'll probably use a standard stock as I already have one set aside for it to begin with. I agree on standard with Diopters for the most part. I do have a standard on my 550 flat top rifle though.

I do wonder why our 550s weren't threaded though. I did actually never check my 550 conversion upper just my 550 STGW clone. I'll check it tonight when I get home.

Definitely pricey for 556 guns, but we have never had this kind of selection available in the US on these guns. Ive always wanted the 55x family since I was a kid and now that I have my chance I am not relinquishing it. (Even if it expensive as hell)
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Well, is the conversion upper threaded?
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Well, is the conversion upper threaded?
Haven't been home yet Gotta pay for these SAN guns somehow. Putting in another 12-14 hour day
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Yeah yeah, sure....someone with so many SAN products can't possibly work for a living. Admit it, you're the playboy kid of a rich porn tycoon.
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Yeah yeah, sure....someone with so many SAN products can't possibly work for a living. Admit it, you're the playboy kid of a rich porn tycoon.
In a parallel universe far far away who knows, but here not so much . To confirm the conversion upper barrel is not threaded for a blank firing device.

I finally got home and messed around with a few different lower configurations. I took my steel lower off my 552 and stuck it on and ultimately I will get a steel lower for this gun along with my JDI 551 short barrel. I much prefer the steel to the aluminum lower. I don't have a choice on the 553R or the SAPR but oh well. I'll keep the aluminum lower in the original case with the cleaning kit and all. Then took a collapsible side folder and stuck it on the AL lower. I was thinking this, but I feel the collapsing stocks are more at home on guns with a railed top, or a 552/3 short gas system. Then finally the standard stock on the AL lower. How it'll stay until I get my steel lower.



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Steel with classic stock!
Looks pretty good with the aluminum but Iíll be getting a steel lower for mine
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I put a steel on mine to try it out.

Agreed, i like the lines more, however the weight savings with the alloy is noticeable. It seems to push the 551 over the edge and make it feel like a nice handling carbne vs a rifle like the 550.
I don't know, might keep the alloy on the 551LB afterall. I mean it already looks pretty modern with the all black finish.
And my 553SB and 550 both have steel lowers, so a bit of variety couldn't hurt right?

Currently the 551LB has a Swiss bayo lug, fixed folding stock, and traditional HK style clips SAN black sling.

Isn't it cool how modular these SG55x guns are? I've even tried SIG556 Classic lowers on them for AR15 mags, and seemed to work fine.
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I put a steel on mine to try it out.

Agreed, i like the lines more, however the weight savings with the alloy is noticeable. It seems to push the 551 over the edge and make it feel like a nice handling carbne vs a rifle like the 550.
I don't know, might keep the alloy on the 551LB afterall. I mean it already looks pretty modern with the all black finish.
And my 553SB and 550 both have steel lowers, so a bit of variety couldn't hurt right?

Currently the 551LB has a Swiss bayo lug, fixed folding stock, and traditional HK style clips SAN black sling.

Isn't it cool how modular these SG55x guns are? I've even tried SIG556 Classic lowers on them for AR15 mags, and seemed to work fine.
Agree 100%
Was telling SWolff how light the 551LB seems!...itís even lighter then my 553 Pistol with steel lower and not just a little as itís really noticeable.
As much as I love the 550 I really like this 551LB especially from a practicality standpoint!
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Also, not sure if anyone has mentioned it but the FH is threaded internally on these new 551-LBs like the SBs
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Tomorrow i'll bring my gun back into work and weigh them using both the steel and aluminum lowers. SAN claims the aluminum lower is 120 grams lighter than steel. However that only translates to a tad over 1/4 pound and the difference does feel more than that. However it may be the balance give the sensation of being even lighter.

I need to get some more bayonet lugs!
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Yes, it is.
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Yep, which leads me to think the 550 isn't threaded because that's just how SAN makes them. There would be no legal reason to thread the 551s and not the 550s.
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Picked up my 4x32 TA31F ACOG for my black flat top 550. Their mount will have to do for now as I am a little tapped out between buying the scope and bills for the month. I'll upgrade to new one this fall. Used some blue loc-tite on the screws to make sure they stay tight. Going to take this shooting next weekend and put it on paper. Picked up some match 556 to try out too


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