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Old 11-10-2016, 07:01 PM   #106
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Now available in .243! http://www.k-var.com/shop/VPR-243-02.html
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Let me guess it doesn't use .308 mags.

Don't count on .243 mags any time soon.
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Let me guess it doesn't use .308 mags.

Don't count on .243 mags any time soon.
I'll find this out on Monday. How exciting. If this uses the .308 mags and feeds reliably then a barrel swap is all that's needed for one of my projects...
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Old 11-12-2016, 04:43 AM   #109
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Yay more rifles with zero replacement parts or even magazines .


I don't see why they can't import spare part+ magazine shipments too.
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Old 11-19-2016, 02:16 PM   #110
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Here's my -06 so far:


Need to replace the handguard and pick up some CSSPEC 10 round mags...hint hint
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Old 11-19-2016, 02:18 PM   #111
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does it kick like a mule?
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Old 11-19-2016, 02:49 PM   #112
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does it kick like a mule?
It has more than my M77 (308) but because of the heavier weight I think it has less recoil than my old Remington 740 woodsmaster that was also in -06. I've also been playing around with 190gr 300 WM loads and shooting the Vepr while the barrel cooled so comparatively the Vepr was a pussycat.

It did beat the brass up on the 190gr -06 loads I fed it but nothing more than the typical ding mark with the 150,168 and 175gr loads. I also did not adjust the gas setting either.

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Old 11-19-2016, 03:19 PM   #113
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The recoil is very light for a 30-06. I have not tried it with some of the hotter loads yet but the weight and stock paired with the semi action tame the recoil wonderfully.
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Old 11-22-2016, 12:40 PM   #114
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Let me guess it doesn't use .308 mags.

Don't count on .243 mags any time soon.
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The .308 magazines fit nicely in the .243. I also loaded the 308 magazine with some .243 Win and the rounds fit properly in the magazine as expected. One noticeable difference between the two magazines is that the feed lips on the .308 sit slightly higher above the feed ramp on the magazine compared to the .243 Win. My only concern would be is that the rounds may try to feed at a slightly different angle due to the feed lip height difference. The safe answer would be to only use the proper caliber magazine
So... sounds like he didn't get the chance to see if you can feed a .243 from a .308 magazine (into a .243 rifle of course). But good information nonetheless. This also means that those of us with .308 mags can conceivably convert them to .243 mags by trimming a little off the .308 mag's feed lip/ramp/whatever. This is promising for my .260 Rem project.
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Old 11-22-2016, 01:17 PM   #115
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So... sounds like he didn't get the chance to see if you can feed a .243 from a .308 magazine (into a .243 rifle of course). But good information nonetheless. This also means that those of us with .308 mags can conceivably convert them to .243 mags by trimming a little off the .308 mag's feed lip/ramp/whatever. This is promising for my .260 Rem project.
I was thinking about this since I made my post.. I should be able to test our magazines for function with inert .243 round, since the .243 is a necked down .308 it should be possible to test chambering on my .308

If it looks good I can order the .243 to confirm function.
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This is one of those cases where it would be great to order a separate .243 VEPR magazine.
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This is one of those cases where it would be great to order a separate .243 VEPR magazine.
Because of the way we form the Vepr .308 magazines it should be possible to use a pair of alteration dies to make them .243 magazines without a significant amount of work.
If they even need to be different.

If someone has both a .243 and a .308 and could snap a few photos with them lined up to show the difference I could get a better idea of the feasibility of this.
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Because of the way we form the Vepr .308 magazines it should be possible to use a pair of alteration dies to make them .243 magazines without a significant amount of work.
If they even need to be different.

If someone has both a .243 and a .308 and could snap a few photos with them lined up to show the difference I could get a better idea of the feasibility of this.
I am picking up my Vepr .243 in December 9th, so by dec 12 I should be able to snap pick for both of them to compare. I live too far from FLL to pick up any earlier.
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Old 12-14-2016, 11:08 AM   #119
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Could a .30-06 VEPR owner measure the internal length of the magazine? Trying to figure out max COAL and if the long Berger VLDs and Nosler Accubonds would fit.
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Could a .30-06 VEPR owner measure the internal length of the magazine? Trying to figure out max COAL and if the long Berger VLDs and Nosler Accubonds would fit.
I seated my 190gr Nosler custom competitions at 3.340" and didn't have an issue feeding from the magazines.

Sorry don't have a mag handy or I'd measure mine.
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Old 12-18-2016, 06:46 PM   #121
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Check out what I'm making! I know it's rough, but this is just my second attempt. I'm using sheet metal from the old washers and dryers from the local junk yard for material.




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Old 12-18-2016, 07:16 PM   #122
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Looks like you have most of the shape.

I built my first Saiga .308 magazine from metal off an older computer tower.
Just be aware of fumes if you weld on it.

If you want any tips call our customer service number. We have built magazines every possible way.

Here is a saiga-12 mag I had from way back.

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Old 12-20-2016, 02:24 PM   #123
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That's cool, I guess great minds think alike.

Now I just need to figure out how to get the proper shape for the magazine lips. I think I'll just get a piece of wood and some spent brass and just shave off the wood according to the .30-06 brass.
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Old 12-20-2016, 07:56 PM   #124
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I'm curious how these hold up in a stamped rifle.

I was on the hunt for a Zastava M76 in 30-06 for awhile.....very robust.
They are converted from the 8mm Kurz round.

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Several years ago I took a Saiga 308, and re-barreled it using a lathed down Sako 243 barrel. I use the original 308 magazines, and surefire 15 rounders, and I have never had a problem.

It is very exciting to see a factory 243, as well as the 30'06. The '06 would be great for a 35 Whelen conversion.

I keep wanting to rebarrel another vepr or saiga. Maybe another 308, this time to 358 Winchester.

Could BAR Magazines be modified easily to fit the '06?

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Old 02-26-2017, 07:04 PM   #126
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Been thinking about a Vepr in 30-06 or alternitivley a M76.

To those who have purchased the Vepr, hows your experience with it so far? Seems there isn't much info about this rifle. Most google links seem to lead to places to purchase or here. No reviews or anything of the like.
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Been thinking about a Vepr in 30-06 or alternitivley a M76. To those who have purchased the Vepr, hows your experience with it so far?
I considered both M76 and Vepr -06 also. I ended up with the Vepr and have been very happy with it. Mine seems to favor 168gr loads. When the planets line up I can squeeze out a 1.5" group but I get 2" pretty regular which is good for an AK. My only gripe is the lack of 10 round magazines. Only 5 rounders and they are $99/each.
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Been thinking about a Vepr in 30-06 or alternitivley a M76.

To those who have purchased the Vepr, hows your experience with it so far? Seems there isn't much info about this rifle. Most google links seem to lead to places to purchase or here. No reviews or anything of the like.
From a value perspective they are almost a sure bet.. Every other .30-06 AK has become an expensive collectors piece. The adjustable gas system is a really cool feature, very robust and it cannot be bumped by accident as it requires the gas tube to be partly removed to change settings.

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Been thinking about a Vepr in 30-06 or alternitivley a M76.

To those who have purchased the Vepr, hows your experience with it so far? Seems there isn't much info about this rifle. Most google links seem to lead to places to purchase or here. No reviews or anything of the like.
I have one, its getting converted. Love it. Shoots great and recoil in my opinion no more then 308 vepr. Get it, highly recommend
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robski needs one lol
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From a value perspective they are almost a sure bet.. Every other .30-06 AK has become an expensive collectors piece. The adjustable gas system is a really cool feature, very robust and it cannot be bumped by accident as it requires the gas tube to be partly removed to change settings.

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please please make magazine for them. I think available magazine that shoot 20 rounds would make this rifle fly of the shelves
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what all does it need for an ak grip and stock? maybe swap out front handguards?
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I'm eyeballing one of these real hard since PA is finally opening up hunting to Semi Auto. Any range reports on this rifle and does CSSPECS make mags for it ? I don't see anything on their website for 30-06.
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To those looking for magazines. A guy converted some MG 13 mags to work decently in his 30-06, over at vepr.org.

http://vepr.org/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=7108

http://www.vepr.org/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=7107

One link has a little info, and the other a photobucket link. The idea still seems to need some tweaking, but it would certainly give more capacity for some range fun, or whatever.

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really cool info. I think csspecs will make mags for it. just keep requesting and buy rifle
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Revival: hows the accuracy on the 30.06? out to 500 yards
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I ended up selling mine. Accuracy was “good” with 150 gr tips 1.5-2” at 100 yds, but other weights (168/175/190gr) i was chasing accuracy. 30-06 is an excellent hunting caliber, but there are much better choices for mid to long range shooting. If your goal is MOA at 500 yds i personally would keep looking. If you are wanting a fun range/hunting rifle 100-500 yds with plenty of box store ammo options, then the 30-06 VEPR may be a good fit.

The action on the VEPR is like butter though.
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I ended up selling mine. Accuracy was “good” with 150 gr tips 1.5-2” at 100 yds, but other weights (168/175/190gr) i was chasing accuracy. 30-06 is an excellent hunting caliber, but there are much better choices for mid to long range shooting. If your goal is MOA at 500 yds i personally would keep looking. If you are wanting a fun range/hunting rifle 100-500 yds with plenty of box store ammo options, then the 30-06 VEPR may be a good fit.

The action on the VEPR is like butter though.
What length barrel did you have? 20 or 23?
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if you want long range accuracy get a Ruger Precision, or do a M1 Garand
match grade' if you wanted a 500 yard accurate semi auto rifle.

the mine is used max at 200 yards for deer this year.

150 gr federal fusion worked best
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