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Old 02-18-2018, 10:49 AM   #1
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Anyone handled one of these yet ? Or know when one is for sale ?

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You can count on it having a ridiculous price too!
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Anyone handled one of these yet ? Or know when one is for sale ?

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/t...iston-carbine/
Iíd be willing to try one out.

It appears theyíre just releasing their submission for the ďindividual Carbine programĒ to the civilian market finally.

Other rifles that were in that were the LWRC individual Carbine (you own one or two), the bushmaster ACR, SCAR, etc...
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You can count on it having a ridiculous price too!
I can't find a price , or the weapon for sale any place ?
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Iíd be willing to try one out.

It appears theyíre just releasing their submission for the ďindividual Carbine programĒ to the civilian market finally.

Other rifles that were in that were the LWRC individual Carbine (you own one or two), the bushmaster ACR, SCAR, etc...
Ya I have 2-LWRC , BUT not a colt piston drive .

I see on GB Bolt Carrier's and there was a few upper receiver's , but someone snatch them all up before i could get one .

You see any for sale ?Please PM me right away .....
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Ya I have 2-LWRC , BUT not a colt piston drive .

I see on GB Bolt Carrier's and there was a few upper receiver's , but someone snatch them all up before i could get one .

You see any for sale ?Please PM me right away .....
I’ll keep an eye out for you.

If the price is right I may buy one myself. My deal is it’s not going to do anything my LWRC won’t and LWRC has a very good service record. If the price is the same I’d rather get another LWRC. Just for the sake of having all the same rifles for backup parts and such.

The Colt is very late to the part as well. But better late than never! This is really the first “new” thing from them in a while. It’s not necessarily an extremely new product development but it’s something!

Hopefully we will see around $1500 or so for the complete rifle. It appears to have a full ambi lower as well. And the Geissele rail is kick ass. I’ve got two of them. I’m betting the actual price is going to be around $2,000-2,500. I’ve assembled with similar parts minus the piston system and ended up around $1,400-1,700 into it... so don’t be too optimistic on price.

Still it looks like a fair contender and may be a little less “proprietary” aside from the gas system. Which can be good for DIY’s. I’d like to know if they’re easy to user service and if you can setup their gas system on a normal barrel and use a normal upper. I’ve got 2 Geissele SMR barrel nut wrenches already.

I still think LWRC’s receiver’s are going to be better. The monoforge upper and the fact that they coin their forgings is a big bonus on top of them using CHF barrels with that NiCor treatment. LWRc’s Fluting work is great too! What makes LWRC so great is they go that extra step just to make sure they use the ABSOLUTE best process and coatings on everything. I’ve heard LWRC is one of the better firearm manufacturers to work for as well. It would be nice to start seeing that from more manufacturers.

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Good, GREAT... hopefully will drive down Colt's more-common AR's pricing !
Colts on GB are priced pretty well. I have been a buyer for hte right model at the right price for some time now and have had alot of good buys. A couple went higher than I had anticipated, but the scarcity, coupled with condition made the buy well worth it.

My cigar room is looking pretty nice...I don't smoke cigars...
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Colts on GB are priced pretty well. I have been a buyer for hte right model at the right price for some time now and have had alot of good buys. A couple went higher than I had anticipated, but the scarcity, coupled with condition made the buy well worth it.

My cigar room is looking pretty nice...I don't smoke cigars...
Have you run into any M5's yet ?
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Have you run into any M5's yet ?
Nothing yet. I sent an email to a local Colt distributor I am friendly with, just to get an idea on availability.
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Why ? Pws already makes the best piston rifle. Not to mention a better fit and finish.
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Why ? Pws already makes the best piston rifle. Not to mention a better fit and finish.
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Why do Hooker's have boy friends ? They don't get enough dick !
Colt already tried a piston. The 6940. Way overpriced and no one bought it. Gas block wasnít adjustable, had a short rail like the 516, which nobody likes.

Pws has nailed it. Unless some companies figure out how to make comparable long stroke systems, whatís the point ?

Now, I do want a DD piston, but been told they have no interest in making one.
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6940 has a gas tube front end, it's DI. Maybe there's another model you're thinking of ? http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/comp....html?Itemid=0
They used to have a model of the 6940 with a gas piston system on it.

This new rifle appears to have the full ambi lower, piston system, good free float rail makeover.

I’m sorry, but I’ve shot PWS rifles and while they are by FAR excellent rifles most all the way around. They're not the best by a long shot IMO. I’m not a big fan of their long stroke piston. I prefer a short stroke. And their barrels are twizzlers. Which is where all the weight hype comes from. An LWRC is only a few ounces more and has a fluted heavy barrel. Same for POF and Barrett piston guns. IMO, the PWS Rifles could benefit from a heavier barrel and maybe not so much damn rail. They’re rigged up to decorate like a Christmas tree. Their new forged receivers look badass though...

Among Barrett, LWRC, POF, and PWS you could honestly flip a coin. IMO they all make great products. H&K is good too but is heavy as shit and the civilian model is kind of outdated to these other rifles. The Colt might be a good rifle but it’s got a well developed market to fight in.

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6940 has a gas tube front end, it's DI. Maybe there's another model you're thinking of ? http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/comp....html?Itemid=0
LE6940P

Mr Guns N Gear has one. I wanted one. They were about $1100 when they closed them out and I was flat broke. They continued over to a military only Colt P0923. Now they are bringing them back as the M5.

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Thanks you ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I have a 6940 and it's not a piston drive .
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They used to have a model of the 6940 with a gas piston system on it.

This new rifle appears to have the full ambi lower, piston system, good free float rail makeover.

Iím sorry, but Iíve shot PWS rifles and while they are by FAR excellent rifles most all the way around. They're not the best by a long shot IMO. Iím not a big fan of their long stroke piston. I prefer a short stroke. And their barrels are twizzlers. Which is where all the weight hype comes from. An LWRC is only a few ounces more and has a fluted heavy barrel. Same for POF and Barrett piston guns. IMO, the PWS Rifles could benefit from a heavier barrel and maybe not so much damn rail. Theyíre rigged up to decorate like a Christmas tree. Their new forged receivers look badass though...

Among Barrett, LWRC, POF, and PWS you could honestly flip a coin. IMO they all make great products. H&K is good too but is heavy as shit and the civilian model is kind of outdated to these other rifles. The Colt might be a good rifle but itís got a well developed market to fight in.

You prefer the short stroke ? Prefer the rod banging the bolt carrier every time ?
Heavy barrels are also overrated. Garland Thumb has done videos actually prefering lighterweight barrels because with harmonics accuracy is actually better.

But, then again, I donít go out and shoot 20,000 rds a year. Yet alone in one rifle when I have many choices to choose from.
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Mr Guns N Gear has one. I wanted one. They were about $1100 when they closed them out and I was flat broke. They continued over to a military only Colt P0923. Now they are bringing them back as the M5.

I will have one...


I think I have 5 or 6 of them now. Not making any more and they're never going to be cheaper
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I think I have 5 or 6 of them now.
That's what I like to see...lol

Who buys one when you can have multiples...?
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That's what I like to see...lol

Who buys one when you can have multiples...?
Why i have 6 of the same exact gun ? I think itís stupid. Obviously has too much money to blow.
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And their barrels are twizzlers. Which is where all the weight hype comes from. An LWRC is only a few ounces more and has a fluted heavy barrel.
I'm kinda the opposite, after owning several pig heavy 308 ARs I loved the fact that my PWS Mk214 was light weight with the short skinny barrel. Recoil wasn't bad either, the brake and gas system did a good job of taming it.
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I'm kinda the opposite, after owning several pig heavy 308 ARs I loved the fact that my PWS Mk214 was light weight with the short skinny barrel. Recoil wasn't bad either, the brake and gas system did a good job of taming it.
Everyone has their own preference. I like a 9Ē-14Ē rail and a slightly beefier barrel. Fluted heavy barrelnisnone of my favorites. Faxon makes a great one for DI builds.
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And horrible quality control!!!

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I think you are stupid and there's only one of you...thank God!
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I think you are stupid and there's only one of you...thank God!
Well itís a good thing I could really care less what you think !
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I guess that makes two of us who don't give a shit how we think of you...lol
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Yeah, your input in this post has just been so intelligent.
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"Too much money to blow" lol as if such a situation ever existed...EVER!

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I have money for BOTH malty times , and 2 in one day sometimes .
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Methinks your jealousy betrays you.
I am- I will admit it.
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I spoke to my buddy about this rifle and availability. He has not purchased any of these rifles. Has not had a request for them either. And, he said he could not but them unless I was LE or military.

I heard the same thing when the 6940 came out.


Edit to add: These rifles will more than likely never be made for the civilian market. Being made for foreign gov's.
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