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Old 02-09-2018, 12:30 AM   #36
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Sharp looking rig Hoecakes. That was a sweet group with the FGMM. I am going to check into the Armaspec spring. I use the VG6 on a Ruger Gunsite .308 w 16" barrels and it helps, but dang that things is still loud w M80 ball.
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Old 02-09-2018, 12:55 AM   #37
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I got the jp rifles variation of the armaspec recoil system and it really makes a difference..
Honestly it does...kinda wish I'd looked into these sooner with prior builds. Definitely going to consider using these going forward in any AR I build from now on, I'm definitely digging the shooting characteristics they provide.

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Sharp looking rig Hoecakes. That was a sweet group with the FGMM. I am going to check into the Armaspec spring. I use the VG6 on a Ruger Gunsite .308 w 16" barrels and it helps, but dang that things is still loud w M80 ball.
The VG6 is definitely loud...but it's not so bad compared to a few others I've used lol...

The Armaspec was definitely worth it tho, can't say enough good things about it. Completely superfluous I know, but it just feels so freaking nice shooting this rifle with it and the rifle length gas, adjustable gas and brake. You can see from the video the rifle has practically no recoil for a 308...I know people claim all the time they've shot 308's that felt like 5.56's but I'm not exaggerating one bit when I say I've shot 5.56's that kicked harder than this.

The Faxon barrel on the other hand for anyone on the fence about it or any of the match series barrels...they're the real deal. The flutes on this particular model make it deceivingly lightweight and handy, and the rifle balances extremely well.

I'm seriously considering doing another similar build in 6.5 Creedmoor next
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Old 02-09-2018, 01:26 AM   #38
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You have great taste hoevito. These were my M5E1s circa 2016. Top one was a Criterion 20” barrel that was insanely accurate, and bottom one a Ballistic Advantage 16” nitride barrel that not too shabby either. I sold them off to get into the 6.5 creedmoor game, and am loving it. This thread makes me want to get another large frame, and go 6.5.

Glad to see that Faxon got their act together with those .308 barrels.


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Old 02-09-2018, 02:50 PM   #39
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Final form achieved...just added a few rail panels and a bottom rail for throwing on a bipod when I want.

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Old 02-09-2018, 11:14 PM   #41
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Man at work today I was thinking about this thread and an AR-10 build of my own. I don't think I can put it off any longer. I'm moving it atop my list after my LWRC di gets paid off next Friday. Probably will start with the barrel, bcg and go from there. My build with the optic, light, accessories is gonna top out around 2k but I think it will be one badass rifle much like yours. You have inspired me! Thanks alot! There goes 2k lol
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Man at work today I was thinking about this thread and an AR-10 build of my own. I don't think I can put it off any longer. I'm moving it atop my list after my LWRC di gets paid off next Friday. Probably will start with the barrel, bcg and go from there. My build with the optic, light, accessories is gonna top out around 2k but I think it will be one badass rifle much like yours. You have inspired me! Thanks alot! There goes 2k lol


Ha, thanks

I was soooooooo going to get one of the LaRue ultimate upper kits and build a complete LaRue rifle, but started really thinking about it and decided to go this route instead.

Honestly...IMO I think I built a far superior rifle for the money by going this route, not to mention I only sunk about $1544 into the build not including the optic.

I pieced everything together just shopping at 4 sites specifically:

Schuyler Arms
GraniteRidgeOutfitters
JoebobsOutfitters
and bkingsfirearms.com

bkingsfirearms.com particularly has some excellent pricing on faxon and aero precision barrels and BCG's...they knocked 15% off my barrel and BCG both when I ordered due to a sale they're running. The barrel and BCG combined came out to $438 and some change for what it's worth. The assembled upper receiver and handguard came from Graniteridge for only $269.
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Old 02-10-2018, 12:13 AM   #43
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Man at work today I was thinking about this thread and an AR-10 build of my own. I don't think I can put it off any longer. I'm moving it atop my list after my LWRC di gets paid off next Friday. Probably will start with the barrel, bcg and go from there. My build with the optic, light, accessories is gonna top out around 2k but I think it will be one badass rifle much like yours. You have inspired me! Thanks alot! There goes 2k lol
Try double that and then cringe.
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Ha, thanks

I was soooooooo going to get one of the LaRue ultimate upper kits and build a complete LaRue rifle, but started really thinking about it and decided to go this route instead.

Honestly...IMO I think I built a far superior rifle for the money by going this route, not to mention I only sunk about $1544 into the build not including the optic.

I pieced everything together just shopping at 4 sites specifically:

Schuyler Arms
GraniteRidgeOutfitters

JoebobsOutfitters
and bkingsfirearms.com

bkingsfirearms.com particularly has some excellent pricing on faxon and aero precision barrels and BCG's...they knocked 15% off my barrel and BCG both when I ordered due to a sale they're running. The barrel and BCG combined came out to $438 and some change for what it's worth. The assembled upper receiver and handguard came from Graniteridge for only $269.
Those two sites are some of my main sites to get parts. The prices are the lowest I can find for alot of things. Free shipping and constant codes at granite as well. I may build a budget PSA PA-10 first then build my "dream" AR-10 variant. I mean 2 is 1 and 1 is none right? lol
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Man at work today I was thinking about this thread and an AR-10 build of my own. I don't think I can put it off any longer. I'm moving it atop my list after my LWRC di gets paid off next Friday. Probably will start with the barrel, bcg and go from there. My build with the optic, light, accessories is gonna top out around 2k but I think it will be one badass rifle much like yours. You have inspired me! Thanks alot! There goes 2k lol
Maybe but once you have it it'll be paid for and you'll be able to enjoy it for the rest of your life.
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Old 02-11-2018, 09:53 AM   #46
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Ha, thanks

I was soooooooo going to get one of the LaRue ultimate upper kits and build a complete LaRue rifle, but started really thinking about it and decided to go this route instead.

Honestly...IMO I think I built a far superior rifle for the money by going this route, not to mention I only sunk about $1544 into the build not including the optic.

I pieced everything together just shopping at 4 sites specifically:

Schuyler Arms
GraniteRidgeOutfitters
JoebobsOutfitters
and bkingsfirearms.com

bkingsfirearms.com particularly has some excellent pricing on faxon and aero precision barrels and BCG's...they knocked 15% off my barrel and BCG both when I ordered due to a sale they're running. The barrel and BCG combined came out to $438 and some change for what it's worth. The assembled upper receiver and handguard came from Graniteridge for only $269.
For $1500 I definitely would have gone the LaRue UU route for the same price with the matching billet lower. Basically getting a PredatAR 7.62 for $1500 when doing the UU kit. An Aero M5E1 is a great build if you can do it for $1000 +/- $1500 and you start entering a different tier imo.
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Well was it worth it to you?
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For $1500 I definitely would have gone the LaRue UU route for the same price with the matching billet lower. Basically getting a PredatAR 7.62 for $1500 when doing the UU kit. An Aero M5E1 is a great build if you can do it for $1000 +/- $1500 and you start entering a different tier imo.
The LaRue very much crossed my mind (and sat in my cart) for the longest time, but in the end I still believe i put together something better overall...totally subjective I know, but there's logic behind it I promise

Essentially I would've paid slightly more for a FDE LaRue build similar to the rig I put together, but it would've been nearly 2 full pounds heavier, lacked adjustable gas, lacked the Armaspec recoil system (which after using it made a huge difference in shooting characteristics), and lacked a lot of the minor little added features I went with like ambi mag release/safety/charging handle, and the threaded bolt catch/forward assists that I've grown to love Aero so much for.

Both had enhanced upper receivers allowing the handguard to bolt onto the upper, so the LaRue had no benefit over the Aero IMO, that's a wash.

Also, no matter how much searching and research I did, it's practically impossible to find out what grade of steel and treatment LaRue uses for their barrels. Based on my own Stealth barrel in another build, I'm almost positive it's just unlined/untreated stainless steel with a blackend finish (similar to what Blackhole Weaponry does with their barrels). Whether it's 410 or 416 stainless or some proprietary whizbang alloy who knows...but the Faxon I got is 416R that's been melonited, and only weight 36oz. The Larue barrel of equal length was over 50oz, and I wasn't interested in the Predator variant honestly. The specs of the Faxon barrel just made it too interesting to pass up, and once I shot it at the range, I have no doubt it's in the same ballpark accuracy-wise as a LaRue.

Lastly, the LaRue receivers are all billet, vs. the forged Aero receivers. In my eyes that's a plus for Aero, but the LaRue's do look snazzy as fuck tho.


Also couldn't find any details or specs of the bolt and bcg, but the Faxon bcg actually rocks a 4140 carrier key, S7 extractor, and a "superfinished" QPQ finish on both bolt and carrier. It's a slick piece, and seems to be made with quality components. No doubt the LaRue is a high quality BCG as well, but I just started wondering exactly how much higher? Again, specs for the BCG were nowhere to be found, so I chose to go with something I knew and had tangible data for instead.


Totally subjective reasoning on my part overall I know, and 9 times out of 10 I'd recommend others go with the LaRue kit as well, but I'm extremely satisfied either way.
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Every penny but at same time totally unnecessary. I'm not going to shoot any better than if I bought a pa10 but the fact that the rifle is 100% what I wanted is what makes me happy. But I don't build rifles I plan on depending on with resale value in mind. I build them to what I want and pay the price.
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Every penny but at same time totally unnecessary. I'm not going to shoot any better than if I bought a pa10 but the fact that the rifle is 100% what I wanted is what makes me happy. But I don't build rifles I plan on depending on with resale value in mind. I build them to what I want and pay the price.
Amen.

I've built a number of AR's, sold a few that didn't quite shape into what I wanted, but most I keep because they're essentially "perfect" for my needs and my tastes.

There's an increasing number of really nice factory AR-10 style rifles out there these days, but it's hard to beat the feeling that a well done high end homebuild can give, especially when you build the rifle with the exact parts you've always wanted, cost be damned. Many of the factory options I've been looking at the last few months leading up to my build were great all around, but had missing features that I really wanted, or were proprietary, or just didn't meet what I was looking for (like being too heavy, not ambi enough, etc).
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