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Old 01-29-2018, 04:37 PM   #1
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I finally took the plunge into the .300 Blackout world. I have a 9” BCM pistol headed to my FFL as I type this. The next obvious step is a suppressor.

The amount of information out there is staggering. So I’m hoping you guys can help me sort the wheat from the chaff so to speak.

The silencer shop guy recommend the rugged surge to me. I’d like a little modularity. I’m not a brand snob, I just want the best suppressor I can get for my money. Price isn’t a consideration, no need to cheap out on a purchase like this.

Would I be better off getting a dedicated 300 blackout suppressor & a modular one?

So what says the files? Best suppressor?
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I'm also looking at getting a suppressor (.30 cal) and my local dealer is a big fan of Gemtech Dead Air Armament, and Silencero products. Sure Fire and Thunder Beast are also brands that get a lot of positive reviews.

What I am personally thinking about doing is getting a LaRue Tactical Tranquilo as it has been designed for reduced blowback and lower ejection port emissions. This came about for a military request from SOCOM for something with less blowback. Really is a great design and a great price imo.

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I have a Rugged Surge and it’s a great can. Their warranty and customer service is top notch. I might have shot it down range. Completely my fault though. Anyway I highly recommend it. Silencershop is going to carry SilencerCo again so the Omega will be great for 300 blackout can too.
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What's the "best" in your opinion? Quietest? Strongest material? Easiest to clean? Most versitile? Lightest? I got the griffin recce5 for my .223 because it was the quietest. Its not the best material (stainless steel vs titanium), not the easiest to clean (no removable baffles), not the most versitile (nothing bigger than 223).

IMO, the best all-around 30cal can would be one of the multi-caliber ones. Griffin optimus or one of the liberty ones. But depending on whats most important to you, there may be something you like more.
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Old 01-29-2018, 05:39 PM   #5
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I just bought a yhm turbo 5.56 can cant beat it for 449.99 sent my pprwrk in cpl weeks ago gonna buy a ptp ranger 9mm next
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What's the "best" in your opinion? Quietest? Strongest material? Easiest to clean? Most versitile? Lightest? I got the griffin recce5 for my .223 because it was the quietest. Its not the best material (stainless steel vs titanium), not the easiest to clean (no removable baffles), not the most versitile (nothing bigger than 223).

IMO, the best all-around 30cal can would be one of the multi-caliber ones. Griffin optimus or one of the liberty ones. But depending on whats most important to you, there may be something you like more.
Draw up a venn diagram...

1. Ruggedness (best material)
2. Quietest
3. Ease of cleaning
4. Weight
5. Versatility (I donít care to buy 2 suppressors if thereís a 300 BO only suppressor thatís head & shoulders above the rest)
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I prefer DeadAir armament myself but rugged is nice too. If get a pistol can for subsonic .300blk though. It's going to foul up the can more than supersonic rifle cartridges like 5.56 and .308win.
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How often are you cleaning? most are self cleaning except super rarely.

I like my omega. Great materials and works well on everything i've put through it: 6.5cm, 308, 556, 6.5g. it is light also.

Most modern suppressors attempt to eliminate backpressure- larue just happens to really advertise he does. I would love to see his balloon test machine comparing the tranquilo to others....
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Ive went Silencerco on all my cans. They have been great and their customer service is great. They give you a free pouch when you register it. Last year they had a $200 rebate. My dealer advised me on Silencerco. He did say stay away from Surefire.
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OP, do you have other firearms that may also use the suppressor? Or are you looking for a dedicated suppressor for the .300 ?
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Draw up a venn diagram...

1. Ruggedness (best material)
2. Quietest
3. Ease of cleaning
4. Weight
5. Versatility (I donít care to buy 2 suppressors if thereís a 300 BO only suppressor thatís head & shoulders above the rest)
Are you only going to shoot subsonic ammo through it?
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You can save yourself a lot of time and effort and get the best, right off the bat.

The Griffin Armament Optimus Everything from 300WM to 22lr, all in a single suppressor
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OP, do you have other firearms that may also use the suppressor? Or are you looking for a dedicated suppressor for the .300 ?
Iíd like to suppress 5.56, 308 & 300 BO. But 300 BO will be my primary suppressed caliber.

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Are you only going to shoot subsonic ammo through it?
I intend to mostly run supers.
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SpecWar 7.62 is heavy, but does a great job on .300, .308 and 7.62x39. Check around where you are. The last ones I saw in my area were $500.

Liberty Cosmic is a good all around light weight suppressor that does well on .300blk, as well as a multitude of other calibers.
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Donít shoot 22lr through it. Big no no.

Get you a .308 can and get you a 5.56 can. The 5.56 is a lot smaller. Plus, they get hot. So when your out shooting you can shoot both and donít have to wait for it to cool and put on another rifle.

I started with a Saker 762 and thought I just need one. Wasnít long and the 556 was on the way, lol. The original Sakers are built like a tank. Thatís what I want. I donít want some light ass can you can clean. I lift weights so I donít whine about how heavy things are.
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I just bought a Griffin Recce7. It should do everything Iíll ever want a rifle suppressor to do and has a good mount selection. I would have probably bought a SiCo Omega if Silencer shop carried them.
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Old 01-29-2018, 10:06 PM   #17
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Silencerco omega is my favorite. Quiet and light with lots of different options to configure. Of course I have not shot a lot of the cans mentioned here. Have a saker, aac sdn, and palmetto state defense monolith for rifle cans. They all work, but the more I shoot with a can, the more I have come to appreciate lightweight.
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If you want a good versatile one for .300blk/5.56 up to .308win, the DeadAir Sandman S is great. The mount is awesome. Best fast attach/detach mount out there IMO. The same mount can be put on a Silencerco Saker though.

No barrel length restrictions and rated up to .300 win mag.

Mine works great on 5.56 rifles as well as .308 win rifles.

If you're going to shoot lots of subsonic I would try a pistol can or a rifle can that is user serviceable so you can clean it. Subsonic creates more buildup that can be hard to break loose.
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I just bought a Griffin Recce7. It should do everything Iíll ever want a rifle suppressor to do and has a good mount selection. I would have probably bought a SiCo Omega if Silencer shop carried them.
I agree. Silencershop messed up by not getting along with silencerco. Silencerco was looking out for all the small ffl dealers across the nation.
I havenít bought from Silencer shop since.
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I agree. Silencershop messed up by not getting along with silencerco. Silencerco was looking out for all the small ffl dealers across the nation.
I havenít bought from Silencer shop since.
I didnít hear what happened. Assumed Silencerco was in the wrong, maybe not?

After dealing with Silencershop Iím not overly impressed with their communication after the fact. Iíve called and they werenít exactly polite to explain their process on when they ship to the dealer. They said they donít ship till 45 days after the form 3 is approved which I felt was odd.

This whole process blows.
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Silencer shop was selling Silencerco products for a lot cheaper then they wanted them to. They told them it’s killing the sales of all the little guys across the country. Silencershop kept doing it and Silencerco said that’s it. We are pulling our products. That came from a Silencerco Worker. You have to respect that.

Which is odd. Cause if you look now, I think Silencer shops prices are higher than most I see. I think the atf killing trusts just killed them
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Look into the suppressed armament systems arbitor. Pricey, but amazing.
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.308 can. Take your pick...

Except gemtech. They've shit the bed in the last year or so.

Their lead designer and patent holder left them to start his own company. GSL

I know the man and he is awesome.

That being said, he left when shit tech decided to go mono core only. Strictly a profit driven decision. The mono cans have a higher failure rate and don't suppress as well as baffled designs.

This is speaking from personal experience having fired hundreds of different cans over the last year or so working for a SOT and owning several of my own.

Dead air is pretty awesome but I also like GSL for obvious reasons.
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So it looks like dead air, omega (I know it’s a suppressor not a company) & rugged are the most mentioned. Guess I’ll make my final choice out of those 3. Thanks fellas.
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Have a couple Omegas. They are at a nice crossroads of weight, suppression, and size. There's a guy out there that makes titanium direct thread adapters and end caps. Adding these can get the Omega to around 12 ounces. Not bad at all.

Don't have Dead Air or Rugged. Have heard good things about both.
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Iíd like to suppress 5.56, 308 & 300 BO. But 300 BO will be my primary suppressed caliber.



I intend to mostly run supers.
Then ease of cleaning is a moot point
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The Gemtech HVT-QM is an older, heavier model. But it works quite well and can be had for a fair price.
And there are many quick mounts on the market. Good luck.

https://gemtech.com/hvt-qm.html
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.308 can. Take your pick...

Except gemtech. They've shit the bed in the last year or so.

That being said, he left when shit tech decided to go mono core only. Strictly a profit driven decision. The mono cans have a higher failure rate and don't suppress as well as baffled designs.
I have quite a few older Gemtechs that are great cans, but yes they took a dump when they went monocore. I do have one of their sandstorms that I got tax free and it's great.

I went with Liberty when i wanted another 308 can and it's great too. Liberty has a nice line of cans. I like silencerco too; I have a few of their cans.

YHM rifle cans seem to be a good deal. I have avoided T-beast as I read of too many puking their guts downrange.

Surefire are too expensive and usually louder than the competition because of the larger bores.
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I just jumped for the OSS Helix, they’re being blown out right now for $550 plus shipping so decided to see if it lives up to the hype.

FYI: they’re blowing out the old models to make room for the new updates line of Helix flow through suppressors.
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I intend to mostly run supers.
then you don't need to worry about maintenance/cleaning
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then you don't need to worry about maintenance/cleaning
Thatís good, one less thing.

Iím going to head down to a local dealer who has some suppressors & actually put my hands on a few & go from there.
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Thatís good, one less thing.

Iím going to head down to a local dealer who has some suppressors & actually put my hands on a few & go from there.
Centerfire rifle suppressors are the easiest when it comes to maintenance. The Only thing I ever have to clean with mine are the muzzle devices that the mount interacts with. Carbon will buildup and can make mounting and removing the can difficult. I maybe clean mine every few thousand rounds.

Rimfire sucks for maintenance... donít buy an aluminum rimfire can. I got a surefire Ryder .22a and itís nice because of how light it is and it is very quiet. But rimfireís are nasty dirty and you have to clean them often. The aluminum baffles require a careful approach and canít be hit with the harsher cleaning methods you can use on stainless baffles. So get stainless baffles in your rimfire can...
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The modular rugged suppressors look pretty cool. I guess I'm just a sucker for anything that you can run shorter or longer. Not sure I'd even use that option but it is pretty neat. The good news is that now seems like a decent time to buy a suppressor.
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You can save yourself a lot of time and effort and get the best, right off the bat.

The Griffin Armament Optimus Everything from 300WM to 22lr, all in a single suppressor
That's what I'm looking into. I currently don't own any can's but really want to get one. I'd like something I could use with several different rifles. My AR's and my .308 guns as well as maybe pistol calibers if possible but mainly want it for some rifles. If I do get a can I'll for sure be building a 300 blk pistol
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