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Old 02-25-2019, 09:43 PM   #71
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What is the difference between v1 (version1?) and v2 (version2?)?
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I'd really like to help out here. I can't.

I only know the glocks and wannabes that I have.

I'm afraid half of the glock info I know is misguided so I don't really want to repeat it.

If I knew for sure, I'd tell you.

point your questions exactly to what you want to know to get the right answers. Some of these guys are pretty sharp and know stuff.

Just do it in the open so maybe I can learn something too.
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I do see that Brownell's is out of large frames, but I think the prices are similar elsewhere and they seem available.
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What is the difference between v1 (version1?) and v2 (version2?)?
v1 you had to cut the rear rails in plastic.

v2 has a stainless steel insert for the rear rails that the fcg fits down into.

sorry it took so long for an answer, my computer is being a dick and taking it's own sweet time.
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v1 you had to cut the rear rails in plastic.

v2 has a stainless steel insert for the rear rails that the fcg fits down into.

sorry it took so long for an answer, my computer is being a dick and taking it's own sweet time.
I thought it might be, but the description of both look the same, including rear rails for the compacts.

I didn't think the description was right.

The v2 sound like a better deal for the same price.
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There may be an other difference or two that I don't recall.


these things don't even qualify as builds. About 20 minutes with a dremmel , a file, and a cordless drill. Assemble and shoot.

Bottom is a dedicated .22lr g19 pattern(the green frame).

Top is a gen 3 hybred. A g22 on a g19/23 size grip.

I don't know if they changed all the p80's or just on the hybred. but instead of the weird factory glock leaf spring under the takedown lever, the hybred uses a coil spring supplied with the p80 kit. It's an added challenge for about 11 seconds during assembly. Works just fine.

I still ain't found out what size inserts for the night sights yet.



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I have read a lot about these and still don't understand... What is the point? Why not just buy a Glock and call it a day? You aren't saving a bunch of money, you don't retain the Glock warranty, track record, or ease of resale. What ARE you gaining with these builds? I am really trying to understand.
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I have read a lot about these and still don't understand... What is the point? Why not just buy a Glock and call it a day? You aren't saving a bunch of money, you don't retain the Glock warranty, track record, or ease of resale. What ARE you gaining with these builds? I am really trying to understand.
cause I got board.


The dedicated .22 is slightly different thinking. I have this and I have that. I have six impact drills at work so I don't have to change setups.

Knowing that, I ain't conversion kitting a fire arm. Why convert it when I can dedicate it. Set one gun down, pick another up. Shoot.

Kinda like my takedown rifle. I ain't taken it down in years cept for the occasional ooh ahh moment from other guys.

I mean really, I have a half ton extra cab chevy. The gun fits fine full size, I don't need it to be smaller and more complicated.

It's a hobby dude, enjoy it or find something else to do so we can bag on you for it. That ain't even me being a dick. simply difference in our thought process'. So we will waste our money and time. You can go knit or something. There is nothing I can say further to help you see through my eyes.
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I have read a lot about these and still don't understand... What is the point? Why not just buy a Glock and call it a day? You aren't saving a bunch of money, you don't retain the Glock warranty, track record, or ease of resale. What ARE you gaining with these builds? I am really trying to understand.
This is where I arrived, too. Just yesterday gun.deals had real G19 frames with the locking block for $89. I've seen G17, G26 for $50 and even G43 frames for $10. Only reason I didn't get the G43 frame is cause you still couldn't buy the top half of the gun cheap enough to be worth it.

I think if you spent equal amount of time trying to build a budget P80 or buy a budget real Glock, the P80 will cost more 90% of the time.

I guess the P80 doesn't have the grip hump or finger groves. So some guys prefer that. Or maybe they just want to say they 'built' it.

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I already have 19 and 23 parts.

9mm conversion barrels have really gone up in price, but the quality is better too.

The early 80 percent frames weren't super strong and I wouldn't trust more than 9mm in them.

A 22LR conversion would be good, if I can remember which one is reliable.
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Old 02-26-2019, 10:50 AM   #81
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For a practical gun, there's not a lot of a point unless you just can't live with the Glock grip... But if you're building something just to have fun with it makes a lot more sense.

I'm not going to buy a perfectly fine G17 and ruin it to build a pseudo racegun to blast steel with, that'd be stupid. What'd be the point if I'm replacing half the parts on the gun? At that point you're spending $400 for a frame that needs $300 (and six months of waiting) of recontouring and stippling done... And that's as much as my entire screw-around P80 build cost, minus the RDS. It's no 2011, but it's certainly more fun, faster, and better handling than a normal G17.

It's also a great tool to get new shooters actually interested. You hand it to some random chick that's scared of guns that you dragged to the range and let her pop a couple of plate racks and you just might change her opinion on shit. Having the same recoil impulse as a .22 WMR and a dot on top really makes stuff go smoother. The icing on the cake is that it looks absolutely retarded, so it's not intimidating to people not familiar with handguns.

I'm saying this as a guy that owns six almost bone-stock Glocks, there's definitely a place for the P80 in the market.

Everything doesn't have to be so serious. Have a little fun.
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Has anybody done one in 45 GAP?

Is it possible or are there differences in the frame other than the trigger housing?
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Old 02-26-2019, 02:07 PM   #85
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A 22LR conversion would be good, if I can remember which one is reliable.
this is the one you want. The one I have is a ciener and is super picky about everything in the world.
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every home build I do gets marked. It's own number and everything.

The big bonus is that it gets MY number, My info. Not some billboard for a corporation.
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There are companies that will engrave or mark a serial number on 80% frames and some sell the 80% frames with custom markings if requested.
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Is there a best place to buy the 80% frames and parts?
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Hinterland Outfitters usually has the frames for $90. I think www.righttobear.com had them with frame completion kits for around $150ish.
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Scratch that, right to bear doesn't have the sale going anymore. Sorry about that.
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You are a "Not a Glockophile", which is even mo' bettah'! Seriously, if it wasn't for the improved grip on these Poly80 frames I would never have built one. As soon as the backordered large size frames get back in stock @ Brownells I am going to start a 10mm build. I just need to find the longslide, so I can build "Not a Glockzilla"! Longslide, extended threaded bbl, and a muzzle comp.
Storm Lake makes a Glock 21 45 ACP to 10mm conversion barrel.

The standard 21 slide is lighter than the standard 20 slide, so add a heavier spring.

If using a long slide, that shouldn't matter.

Storm Lake makes both a 4.6" and a 6" conversion barrels.

For the extractor, use a 21 45 ACP extractor with 0.020" (no more than 0.020", can be a bit less) removed from the inside of the extractor.

This modified 45 ACP extractor will work for both 10mm and 45 ACP.

Then all you have to do is swap barrels and magazines.

The cartridge is held in the chamber by the extractor, so you can also use 40 S&W in the 10mm barrel, and 40 S&W cases can be long loaded, but it's not required.
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There are companies that will engrave or mark a serial number on 80% frames and some sell the 80% frames with custom markings if requested.
The hybred I got came from Lone Wolf, just for that reason. They had somekinda deal and threw in the laser engrave for free on some sorta sale.

Otherwise I have a friend in east texas that has laser service. Just have to have it done before you cut the poly 80, or fold a flat, or cut an ar pocket.
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Got the "coyote" colored frame, slide and LPK from Brownells. $119.99 for the frame $183.47 for the slide and I think $49 for the LPK. Plus 10% off and free ship. The barrel was on close out at Optics planet for $150. The parts for the slide I already had. The suppressor height night sights were around $57. The Holosun was $270.

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That is one nice little package.
Good color combo.
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Yep, that's a tidy package. Did the slide come cut for the dot sight?


Rah, don't give up on your's yet. I have this sneaky suspicion that p80 will start making some bits for the gen 4 and 5's.
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Rah, don't give up on your's yet. I have this sneaky suspicion that p80 will start making some bits for the gen 4 and 5's.

Yeah, I've got time on my side. I like the Glock in .40 (with correct charge)
Meantime, I've got another 19 slide coming in with a burris fastfire 3
Pew-pew-pew.
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Got my PF45 large frame in today, the grip is a bit larger but no where near what the stock Glock 20 and 21 frames feel like. The Glock grip reminds me of grabbing an oddly warped 2X4, this one feels much smaller. Now, where to get a bull-nose G40 length slide?
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Got my PF45 large frame in today, the grip is a bit larger but no where near what the stock Glock 20 and 21 frames feel like. The Glock grip reminds me of grabbing an oddly warped 2X4, this one feels much smaller. Now, where to get a bull-nose G40 length slide?
6 inch 10mm conversion barrel.

https://www.glockmeister.com/Storm-L...uctinfo/34018/

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/64...tainless-steel

https://www.glocktalk.com/threads/ex...rsion.1656237/

https://www.glocktalk.com/threads/gr...#post-22283466

A modified Glock 21 extractor can be a tighter fit on 10mm and still be used for 45 ACP.
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Rah, don't give up on your's yet. I have this sneaky suspicion that p80 will start making some bits for the gen 4 and 5's.
Yes, it came already cut for the RMR type base. So it will fit the Trijicon and the Holosun.
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I'm looking for a bull nose gen 3 longslide, not a bbl. Prefer a solid one without any cutouts, but so far the only one I can find is this one:

https://www.lonewolfdist.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=922589

However it is a bit shorter than I want and of course has the big cutout on top. They do have the pig nosed solid version but it is on backorder and I don't particularly like the looks of the flat front slides.
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I'm looking for a bull nose gen 3 longslide, not a bbl. Prefer a solid one without any cutouts, but so far the only one I can find is this one:

https://www.lonewolfdist.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=922589

However it is a bit shorter than I want and of course has the big cutout on top. They do have the pig nosed solid version but it is on backorder and I don't particularly like the looks of the flat front slides.
Okay, that slide is a bit shorter than a 6 inch barrel one, which looks like it is not available and hasn't been for a while.
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Well, now that we have both the Lonewolf and the P80 large frames available maybe someone will start making them again. The stock G40 with a Lonewolf threaded bbl and comp looks like it has about as much muzzle flip as a 9mm! 10mm has the pressure and gas volume to really work a comp, back in the day we made a few 1911 10mm "race guns" and they were perfect for double taps. You pretty quickly got the timing down to pull the trigger again after the first shot and two holes appeared beside each other.
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I built a 9mm compact Glock 19 size Poly80.

I have been considering building a 45.

The upper looks pricey.

I think I'll do another compact 9mm next.
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The subcompacts are cut for the dual recoil springs.

I worry there may be too little plastic them.

I guess they are made strong enough for the job, but the generation 3 compact seems very reliable.
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