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Old 02-13-2018, 12:50 AM   #1
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Default So... If you could buy only one...

If you could buy/own only one of the following handguns which would it be and why?

Tokarev (TT-33, M57, any of the other variants)
Bulgarian Makarov
Polish P64
Zastava M70
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CZ-50/70
CZ-52
CZ-82
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Old 02-13-2018, 01:07 AM   #2
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Makarov, because it is far above the rest in reliability and it's at a sweet spot with everything listed, not to big not to small.
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I would save my money for a colt, Smith,Beretta or HK.
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Walther PP.

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Old 02-13-2018, 01:26 AM   #5
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I guess since the only one on that list that I own is a Walther PP, then that is the answer.
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CZ50 is on my short list. Poor mans PPK. Everytime I see a used one (walther) come around locally its in .380 and I'd rather have in 7.65.

Had a P64. It was snappy with a shitty trigger and quite heavy for a small pistol. I'd take a J-frame over it.

Tok's are fun, just not in 9mm.

If you dont have any Makarov variant you probably should get one. I was heavy into 9x18 awhile back (CZ82 FTW) but consolidated calibers and 9x18 really didn't fit. Especially with all the wonder-nines out now.
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Not enough experience with the list to choose
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Makarov, because it is far above the rest in reliability and it's at a sweet spot with everything listed, not to big not to small.
This...The only other pistol on the OP's list that I see any point in owning is the Walther PP, and the Makarov has it beat on reliability/durability/caliber (assuming its the proper 9x18 flavor). Decent ammo is more available at lower pricing, too, which is a bonus.

OP, if you're looking at those, you might also consider a Colt 1903 (or its .380 version, frequently called a 1908, not to be confused with the 1908 .25). Much as I love the 1903, though, I'd still chose a Makarov over it as an "only have one", due to availability of spare parts and mags.
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If you could buy/own only one of the following handguns which would it be and why?

Tokarev (TT-33, M57, any of the other variants)
Bulgarian Makarov
Polish P64
Zastava M70
FEG AP
CZ-50/70
CZ-52
Walther PP
I guess I'd take the rifle. I know, I know, J/K
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The Makarov, g19, sig p226 are my favorite classics
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mak, it is the only one that still shoots ammo around $10-11/box
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Makarov is the only viable choice I see presented on that list. I've sold mine due to consolidating expenses, and needing to trim back the collection. They are however, very good little pistols. As pointed out already by Spook though... It must be in 9x18 though.
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Old 02-13-2018, 09:23 AM   #14
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Old 02-13-2018, 12:33 PM   #15
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Makarov is more reliable.
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Well, the odd one out is the Walther PP, it is of a different class than the rest.

Tossing that, and assuming I had none of the others, it would be the Makarov. It is the most versatile and reliable of the pack.

Given what I own now, the Tokarev is on my current wish list.
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I'd love to own a PP, but if I could only choose one it would be the Makarov.

ETA. You should add the CZ82/83 to the list.
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M57 - 7.62x25mm Round is awesome. One of my most accurate guns!

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Makarov is more reliable.
That is debatable.

What is not debatable, is that the G19 is more powerful and holds twice as many of those more powerful rounds.

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Cz 83.
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This list if flawed, I dont see Glock
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Old 02-13-2018, 08:22 PM   #22
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Torn between the Makarov and the Tokarev. I already have 3 Makarovs and a P64(all suitably resprung)but my 7.62x25's are a (Harrington Products firing pin and Would Gunsprings)CZ52 and a PPS43C. I HAVE an M57,but I have largely loaned that to a trusted friend. THIS one has the aftermarket frame safety. I WOULD like to try one of the newer imports with the trigger face safety. ..so I'm going to go with the Tokarev here.
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Mak, followed by the P64.
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Is it to be a collector, or would it have double duty as a carry piece?

For either, or both:
Bulgarian Makarov.

I gave stock original P-64s a chance, carried by two very middle-aged friends, but the tough DA trigger and unpleasant felt recoil aren't for me. They only carry them to have a superbly reliable Pocket Gun.
The military Makarovs (Russian Bulgy, EG, Chinese) and civilian Russian (both .380 and 9x18) Makarovs clearly have better DA pulls and acceptable recoil.
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Is it to be a collector, or would it have double duty as a carry piece?

For either, or both:
Bulgarian Makarov.

I gave stock original P-64s a chance, carried by two very middle-aged friends, but the tough DA trigger and unpleasant felt recoil aren't for me. They only carry them to have a superbly reliable Pocket Gun.
The military Makarovs (Russian Bulgy, EG, Chinese) and civilian Russian (both .380 and 9x18) Makarovs clearly have better DA pulls and acceptable recoil.
Regarding the P64:as others have already posted; the Wolff Gunsprings kits work great. I went with the heavier recoil spring! both for durability and a reduction in perceived recoil for the sensitive. The hammer/trigger kit get the DA pull,while no match trigger;down to VERY usable levels. And,espexially with SA shots,the little bastard is a lot more accurate than it has a right to be. Double tap are ridiculously easy.
But yeah, I default to my Makarovs mostly. Just about one of the most useful size/ergonomics combos for me at least. I seem to do instinctive/reaction/draw and shoot work better with those than a lot of other guns in that size envelope. Definitely one that works.
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CZ 82 over the Mak.
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All tried to perfect on perfection but all failed.

Glock wins
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That is debatable.

What is not debatable, is that the G19 is more powerful and holds twice as many of those more powerful rounds.

Edge - Glock.





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Makarov has less parts than a glock thus has a lower rate of possible failure.

Of course any modern gun will have an edge in capacity and firepower but that's not what is being asked here. I'll choose a mak over a glock any day of the week but that's just me now if other options are added I might not pick the mak.
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What is your intention for the handgun? They are all nice and affordable collector pieces. Some better then others. If I wanted an all steel, older pistol with collectabillity and useability as a carry piece, I would get a Browning Hi power. If you are looking for a collectable Com bloc gun that is still useable for carry I would get an older CZ 75.
If you are looking for a collector/carry piece the smallest I would want in my opinion is a Makarov. OP you need to provide more information regarding your reasoning/intenion of the sidearm and then I can provide a much better opinion. Regardless my sidearm choice would not be less then 9x19 just for the flexibility of the chambering.
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May I ask? Why no 9mm lugers?
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All, I appreciate the inputs. As for the selection, intention, etc. There really isn't a method to the madness. These are all handguns that have piqued my interest over the past month or so and just wanted some no BS opinions. Keep 'em coming.

Also, thanks to the folks who mentioned the CZ82. Post has been edited to include it.
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All, I appreciate the inputs. As for the selection, intention, etc. There really isn't a method to the madness. These are all handguns that have piqued my interest over the past month or so and just wanted some no BS opinions. Keep 'em coming.

Also, thanks to the folks who mentioned the CZ82. Post has been edited to include it.
I noted the addition of the CZ82, but my earlier post stands...Makarov. I've seen more reliability issues with the CZ82 vs a Makarov (seemingly, all mag issues), the CZs are harder to fully detail strip, and there's more parts to "go wrong". That said, the CZ82 has better sights/is much easier to swap to night sights and tend to have even nicer da pulls than a Mak. In the end, though, Mak reliability outweighs all else, IMO.
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Makarov, just because how do you not have one? They can be surprisingly accurate, the sights are easy to use and they're comfortable to shoot. Yugo Tokarev as the runner-up.
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A poll would be nice here.
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