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SAIGA 5.45 · 01-31-2017, 08:01 AM

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/comp....html?Itemid=0

Saw a demonstration for these the other day on facebook and they have me a bit curious, plus the glock mag adapter free is a great bonus.

Must resist.

**Atlantic Firearms** · 01-31-2017, 08:10 AM

Thus far we have enjoyed the pistol , It has the ergonomics of brick but it is fun to shoot and affordably priced .The pic below shows it outfitted with the Glock mag adapter, Optic and Pistol brace .

SAIGA 5.45 · 01-31-2017, 08:20 AM

How does the mag drop, also with a krebs safety I don't see it being that bad. Also seems to have zero recoil. Also will it handle +P+ ammo and what kinds of bullets have you guys tested it with?

Gribble · 01-31-2017, 02:14 PM

The price is certainly attractive on this thing.

MontanaGrant · 01-31-2017, 02:34 PM

Damn.....I got a Beretta......DAAAMnIT........

Lol, it looks like a fun toy.

**Atlantic Firearms** · 01-31-2017, 06:30 PM

Here is a brief Video showing the 9MM Pistol running during our testing trials .

slcpunk74 · 01-31-2017, 09:10 PM

Alright I'm pledging it now. If I get money back when I do taxes, one of these sill be mine. I doubt I'll get anything back but yeah I still pledge it haha.

Wait no threaded barrel?!?

Mandaree36 · 02-01-2017, 01:13 AM

Good grief....that's an ugly sob of a pistol....

Maybe....and I mean maybe, if one can get rid of that dumbass looking plastic shit....and get a real handguard in there.

Dr.ButcherMD · 02-01-2017, 01:37 AM

The price is more attractive than the pistol. That being said, I kinda want one. I agree with Mandy, is the handguard proprietary to the gun or will it accept standard AK handguards(with or without minor fitment)?

Clydedog · 02-01-2017, 02:40 AM

...A Glock adapter, a bunch of happy sticks, a Primary Arms microdot and one of these...

...would make for one sweet package. My M92 PAP really needs a little brother...

**Atlantic Firearms** · 02-01-2017, 07:56 AM

Yeah they are ugly and Ergonomics of a brick BUT ....they are pretty cool and very reasonably priced. The ability to take Glock or Beretta mags is bonus since Glock style mags are cheap N plentiful.

KernelKrink · 02-01-2017, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr.ButcherMD

The price is more attractive than the pistol. That being said, I kinda want one. I agree with Mandy, is the handguard proprietary to the gun or will it accept standard AK handguards(with or without minor fitment)?

From the reviews I have read the magwell is integrated into the handguard.

Dr.ButcherMD · 02-01-2017, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KernelKrink

From the reviews I have read the magwell is integrated into the handguard.

Yeah, I did some more reading and watched some YT vids on them. It's like they let a 10yr old design the handguard, fugly! Still debating on purchase...

Mandaree36 · 02-01-2017, 05:41 PM

Well that's a shame. With a little work, it could look pretty decent.

Tempted to get one and see what can be done, if for nothing but kicks.

KernelKrink · 02-01-2017, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr.ButcherMD

Yeah, I did some more reading and watched some YT vids on them. It's like they let a 10yr old design the handguard, fugly! Still debating on purchase...

If they get popular enough, i'm sure someone will start making all sorts of aftermarket handguards festooned with rails and keyslots.

Dr.ButcherMD · 02-02-2017, 04:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KernelKrink

If they get popular enough, i'm sure someone will start making all sorts of aftermarket handguards festooned with rails and keyslots.

I'm not too picky, a standard shaped AKM HG with magwell attached isn't asking for too much. A 74 HG would be fine too but damn the HG it comes with is hideous! The f'ing thing already has too many rails to begin with LOL!

I'm sitting here with my CC in hand, debating on purchasing, maybe I'll have another shot of whiskey while I think about it... it's hard passing up a 9mm AK at this price even if it's fugly. I guess we've all been waiting for too long.

Edit: My buddy Jim Beam just talked me into putting one on layaway, he's a bad influence.

firejunkie · 02-02-2017, 11:54 PM

Very interested! Can the PG be swapped out for aftermarket AK grips?

**Atlantic Firearms** · 02-03-2017, 08:38 AM

Yes you can change the pistol grip

Suon · 02-04-2017, 09:54 AM

Atlanic you guys crack me up. Saying the glock adapter is free,

When all you did was raise the price of the pak-9 to include it.

I do beleive the msrp was around $425 and ive seen them listed for less.

$489 is not a deal on this even if shipping was thrown in.

insider · 02-04-2017, 03:39 PM

Why can't someone make a nice 9mm carbine that doesn't look like an ugly abomination, and doesn't cost a fortune!

silvermane_1 · 02-05-2017, 06:20 AM

yeah that thing is fucking ugly, why oh why can't someone make a SA Bizon in 9mm Para?

HOG76 · 02-05-2017, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suon

Atlanic you guys crack me up. Saying the glock adapter is free,

When all you did was raise the price of the pak-9 to include it.

I do beleive the msrp was around $425 and ive seen them listed for less.

$489 is not a deal on this even if shipping was thrown in.

No need to Troll, why don't you open a business and sell them for less? You could call it Jack Ass Gun Sales!

Mandaree36 · 02-05-2017, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HOG76

No need to Troll, why don't you open a business and sell them for less? You could call it Jack Ass Gun Sales!

IS he trolling...or just advising....

Just saying amigo...

es · 02-05-2017, 05:48 PM

Yeah, wouldn't call that trolling--he's providing information that potential buyers may want to take into account prior to making a purchase. He just chose to do it in a less tactful fashion than HOG76 deemed appropriate lol

Pvt.Joker · 02-06-2017, 12:43 AM

I've handled one. The biggest gripe I have with it is the mag release set-up. IF you are an AK guy and you go to release the magazine as you would on any OTHER AK, the bottom end of the gun drops off, because the magazine release is on the side of the lower panel that latches in with the standard AK magazine release button. They should have found a better way to work out that detail, IMHO.

Suon · 02-06-2017, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HOG76

No need to Troll, why don't you open a business and sell them for less? You could call it Jack Ass Gun Sales!

lol, some one got butt hurt.

Not my fault that Atlantic is high priced, heck and they are not the highest out there.

etown_ak · 02-08-2017, 10:13 AM

This is blowback operation, right?
Any leads in the Glock adapter department?

CLEAR-SKY · 02-08-2017, 10:40 PM

Call Chiappa. I was told they were on back order but it was delivered a few days later.

etown_ak · 02-11-2017, 08:32 PM

Anyone have the O. D. of the barrel?

Mattylight30 · 02-12-2017, 10:15 AM

Is that a Korean stick mag?

kickkickface · 02-12-2017, 09:27 PM

Why is it that Atlantic gets a free pass from everyone when the over charge and price gouge? Pistols MSRP is $399 but Atlantic has them for $489! Oh well what ever at least you get a free Glock mag conversation for over paying $89. Remember when their wasrs went from $499 to $629 for no reason? Oh ya you better pay the QC up grade or they will punish you and send you a shit gun with bad sight alignment.

panzertruppe · 02-13-2017, 01:46 AM

Blaine,

They look cool... Like Murphy said, if it looks stupid but works, it ain't stupid.... Good truck gun, fit anywhere! I happen to be well stocked in 33rd Glock mags...

Atlantic is a reputable company... You get a quality product AND outstanding CS. You get what you pay for nowadays... Be as I'll mannered as you like, we're all bunch of cretans here. But they're a tip top company or they'd be outta business and NOT on these files if they weren't.... Period!

panzertruppe

Asmodeus · 03-24-2017, 04:55 PM

As one who has talked endless... <--- endless amounts of shit on all PCC's...

I recently thought about *sigh* maybe doing something like an m/11 or something purely for nonsense purposes. The first thing on the radar is of course the Evo. It looks like a plastic brick. But they run.

I stumbled on this a few days ago, and with it being AK based, I was considering just doing the PAK 9. Parts and general stuff would be no sweat. Then... I saw the most awful YT diagnosis on one that must have been a vodka special that really made me pump my brakes. Everyone said the mags they come with are trash. Many had firing pins falling out because the retaining pin was either missing or not peened. The worst required the BC being drilled out to reduce mass, the magwell moved and pinned etc. The rails were falling off in another video.

Most of that stuff wouldn't be a really big deal. But the handguard holds the magwell in place. So either it has to stay, or you would have to fabricate some kind of retaining plate for it, and the HG to switch it.

I don't know if the Glock mag guns run any better, but I didn't see anyone professing their undying love for the gun using the Beretta mags. And I watched a lot of videos.

Some of the searches were showing people getting these around $350. At $350, I can look at it like a parts kit even if it didn't run at all. It looks like there aren't many left all over now and Atlantic's $489 at least comes with the Glock adapter.

Anyone have one and an opinion?

xdtac · 03-26-2017, 07:14 AM

Found a promising review on one that came from atlantic.http://http://thefirearmspodcast.com...m-kalashnikov/

HOG76 · 03-26-2017, 11:03 AM

God forbid a gun dealer actually makes a profit....

01-31-2017, 08:01 AM	#1
SAIGA 5.45 Old Dirty Bastard of the Files AKaholic #: 174648 Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: North Carolina Posts: 14,697	Chiappa PAK-9 http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/comp....html?Itemid=0 Saw a demonstration for these the other day on facebook and they have me a bit curious, plus the glock mag adapter free is a great bonus. Must resist. __________________ Those who beat their swords into plowshares will be ruled by those who did not. I should be back in Jacksonville, putting my spicy man meat into a mother/daughter sandwich, that's what I want- Ashley J. Williams This is the files, leave your purse at the fucking door.

01-31-2017, 08:10 AM	#2
Atlantic Firearms Curio & Relic Vendor AKaholic #: 4032 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,137	Thus far we have enjoyed the pistol , It has the ergonomics of brick but it is fun to shoot and affordably priced .The pic below shows it outfitted with the Glock mag adapter, Optic and Pistol brace . __________________ Atlantic Firearms,llc www.atlanticfirearms.com sales@atlanticfirearms.com

01-31-2017, 08:20 AM	#3
SAIGA 5.45 Old Dirty Bastard of the Files AKaholic #: 174648 Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: North Carolina Posts: 14,697	How does the mag drop, also with a krebs safety I don't see it being that bad. Also seems to have zero recoil. Also will it handle +P+ ammo and what kinds of bullets have you guys tested it with? __________________ Those who beat their swords into plowshares will be ruled by those who did not. I should be back in Jacksonville, putting my spicy man meat into a mother/daughter sandwich, that's what I want- Ashley J. Williams This is the files, leave your purse at the fucking door.

01-31-2017, 06:30 PM	#6
Atlantic Firearms Curio & Relic Vendor AKaholic #: 4032 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,137	Here is a brief Video showing the 9MM Pistol running during our testing trials . __________________ Atlantic Firearms,llc www.atlanticfirearms.com sales@atlanticfirearms.com

01-31-2017, 09:10 PM	#7
slcpunk74 censored AKaholic #: 173589 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: SL,UTah Posts: 7,575	Alright I'm pledging it now. If I get money back when I do taxes, one of these sill be mine. I doubt I'll get anything back but yeah I still pledge it haha. Wait no threaded barrel?!? __________________ The time and place for a gun maker just got together on this corner. And I happened along.- John M. Browning Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it. -Thomas Sowell

01-31-2017, 02:14 PM	#4
Gribble Member AKaholic #: 165048 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: SD Posts: 388	The price is certainly attractive on this thing.

01-31-2017, 02:34 PM	#5
MontanaGrant Curio & Relic AKaholic #: 139659 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: MT Posts: 2,954	Damn.....I got a Beretta......DAAAMnIT........ Lol, it looks like a fun toy.

02-01-2017, 01:13 AM	#8
Mandaree36 Hannibals Mentor AKaholic #: 4562 Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: North Dakota Posts: 32,371	Good grief....that's an ugly sob of a pistol.... Maybe....and I mean maybe, if one can get rid of that dumbass looking plastic shit....and get a real handguard in there. __________________ I wont check my religious beliefs at the door....to accomodate you - nor will I apologize for them... приедьте и получите некоторых Вы трусы

02-01-2017, 01:37 AM	#9
Dr.ButcherMD Curio & Relic AKaholic #: 156261 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Point of No Return Posts: 3,491	The price is more attractive than the pistol. That being said, I kinda want one. I agree with Mandy, is the handguard proprietary to the gun or will it accept standard AK handguards(with or without minor fitment)?

02-01-2017, 02:40 AM	#10
Clydedog Member AKaholic #: 155647 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Northern Idaho Posts: 437	...A Glock adapter, a bunch of happy sticks, a Primary Arms microdot and one of these... ...would make for one sweet package. My M92 PAP really needs a little brother...

02-01-2017, 07:56 AM	#11
Atlantic Firearms Curio & Relic Vendor AKaholic #: 4032 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,137	Yeah they are ugly and Ergonomics of a brick BUT ....they are pretty cool and very reasonably priced. The ability to take Glock or Beretta mags is bonus since Glock style mags are cheap N plentiful. __________________ Atlantic Firearms,llc www.atlanticfirearms.com sales@atlanticfirearms.com

02-01-2017, 05:41 PM	#14
Mandaree36 Hannibals Mentor AKaholic #: 4562 Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: North Dakota Posts: 32,371	Well that's a shame. With a little work, it could look pretty decent. Tempted to get one and see what can be done, if for nothing but kicks. __________________ I wont check my religious beliefs at the door....to accomodate you - nor will I apologize for them... приедьте и получите некоторых Вы трусы

02-02-2017, 11:54 PM	#17
firejunkie Senior Member Silver Contributor AKaholic #: 161 Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Phila., PA Posts: 587	Very interested! Can the PG be swapped out for aftermarket AK grips? __________________ TANSTAAFL!

02-03-2017, 08:38 AM	#18
Atlantic Firearms Curio & Relic Vendor AKaholic #: 4032 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,137	Yes you can change the pistol grip __________________ Atlantic Firearms,llc www.atlanticfirearms.com sales@atlanticfirearms.com Last edited by Atlantic Firearms; 02-04-2017 at 09:58 AM.

02-04-2017, 09:54 AM	#19
Suon Member AKaholic #: 170295 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Myrtle Beach, SC Posts: 257	Atlanic you guys crack me up. Saying the glock adapter is free, When all you did was raise the price of the pak-9 to include it. I do beleive the msrp was around $425 and ive seen them listed for less. $489 is not a deal on this even if shipping was thrown in. Last edited by Suon; 02-04-2017 at 10:07 AM.

02-04-2017, 03:39 PM	#20
insider Curio & Relic AKaholic #: 2882 Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Red Sky Florida Posts: 5,977	Why can't someone make a nice 9mm carbine that doesn't look like an ugly abomination, and doesn't cost a fortune! __________________ my AK never lets me down!

02-05-2017, 06:20 AM	#21
silvermane_1 ((the wagons))anti-troll brigade CO AKaholic #: 170966 Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Burien, WA Posts: 4,247	yeah that thing is fucking ugly, why oh why can't someone make a SA Bizon in 9mm Para? __________________ "Democans or Republicrats, just different sides of the same coin, it's time for a different coin." -Me "And I'm not prejudiced....I'm POST-judiced."-Hobby "you don't murder animals, you kill'em"-Lee Marvin as the "Sarge" in The Big Red One ...times are gone for honest men and sometimes far to long for snakes... -RIP Chris Cornell Happiness is a road, lined with the bones of those whom sold out America, for personal gain/profit. -Me "Sic semper nova orbis terrae ordinatio collectarius"-Me

02-05-2017, 05:48 PM	#24
es Curio & Relic AKaholic #: 185924 Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: DFW, Texas Posts: 2,121	Yeah, wouldn't call that trolling--he's providing information that potential buyers may want to take into account prior to making a purchase. He just chose to do it in a less tactful fashion than HOG76 deemed appropriate lol

02-06-2017, 12:43 AM	#25
Pvt.Joker Larger than life and twice as ugly AKaholic #: 8956 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Waverly, TN Posts: 11,181	I've handled one. The biggest gripe I have with it is the mag release set-up. IF you are an AK guy and you go to release the magazine as you would on any OTHER AK, the bottom end of the gun drops off, because the magazine release is on the side of the lower panel that latches in with the standard AK magazine release button. They should have found a better way to work out that detail, IMHO. __________________ Those who accept that the end justifies the means to promote their progress serve to provide the means to justify their end to those who do NOT, should they care to attempt to use force on those who choose otherwise. Would someone kindly explain to me how the hell I fell asleep and woke up in the middle of an Ayn Rand novel? Liberalism: Dedicated to promoting the "freedom" to blindly OBEY THEM since Karl Marx!

02-08-2017, 10:13 AM	#27
etown_ak Curio & Relic AKaholic #: 169947 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Elizabethton, TN Posts: 2,161	This is blowback operation, right? Any leads in the Glock adapter department? __________________ My other gun is an AK.

02-08-2017, 10:40 PM	#28
CLEAR-SKY Member AKaholic #: 170815 Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Florida Posts: 230	Call Chiappa. I was told they were on back order but it was delivered a few days later.

02-11-2017, 08:32 PM	#29
etown_ak Curio & Relic AKaholic #: 169947 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Elizabethton, TN Posts: 2,161	Anyone have the O. D. of the barrel? __________________ My other gun is an AK.

02-12-2017, 10:15 AM	#30
Mattylight30 Curio & Relic AKaholic #: 172152 Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Springfield, IL Posts: 4,388	Is that a Korean stick mag?

02-12-2017, 09:27 PM	#31
kickkickface Member AKaholic #: 17040 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: oklahoma city, ok Posts: 181	Why is it that Atlantic gets a free pass from everyone when the over charge and price gouge? Pistols MSRP is $399 but Atlantic has them for $489! Oh well what ever at least you get a free Glock mag conversation for over paying $89. Remember when their wasrs went from $499 to $629 for no reason? Oh ya you better pay the QC up grade or they will punish you and send you a shit gun with bad sight alignment.

02-13-2017, 01:46 AM	#32
panzertruppe Curio & Relic AKaholic #: 3934 Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 15,626	Blaine, They look cool... Like Murphy said, if it looks stupid but works, it ain't stupid.... Good truck gun, fit anywhere! I happen to be well stocked in 33rd Glock mags... Atlantic is a reputable company... You get a quality product AND outstanding CS. You get what you pay for nowadays... Be as I'll mannered as you like, we're all bunch of cretans here. But they're a tip top company or they'd be outta business and NOT on these files if they weren't.... Period! panzertruppe Last edited by panzertruppe; 02-13-2017 at 01:52 AM.

03-24-2017, 04:55 PM	#33
Asmodeus Curio & Relic AKaholic #: 60954 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: PA Posts: 3,216	As one who has talked endless... <--- endless amounts of shit on all PCC's... I recently thought about sigh maybe doing something like an m/11 or something purely for nonsense purposes. The first thing on the radar is of course the Evo. It looks like a plastic brick. But they run. I stumbled on this a few days ago, and with it being AK based, I was considering just doing the PAK 9. Parts and general stuff would be no sweat. Then... I saw the most awful YT diagnosis on one that must have been a vodka special that really made me pump my brakes. Everyone said the mags they come with are trash. Many had firing pins falling out because the retaining pin was either missing or not peened. The worst required the BC being drilled out to reduce mass, the magwell moved and pinned etc. The rails were falling off in another video. Most of that stuff wouldn't be a really big deal. But the handguard holds the magwell in place. So either it has to stay, or you would have to fabricate some kind of retaining plate for it, and the HG to switch it. I don't know if the Glock mag guns run any better, but I didn't see anyone professing their undying love for the gun using the Beretta mags. And I watched a lot of videos. Some of the searches were showing people getting these around $350. At $350, I can look at it like a parts kit even if it didn't run at all. It looks like there aren't many left all over now and Atlantic's $489 at least comes with the Glock adapter. Anyone have one and an opinion?

03-26-2017, 07:14 AM	#34
xdtac New Member AKaholic #: 165343 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Amarillo TX Posts: 15	Found a promising review on one that came from atlantic.http://http://thefirearmspodcast.com...m-kalashnikov/

03-26-2017, 11:03 AM	#35
HOG76 Veteran Member Contributor AKaholic #: 158773 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid-Michigan, USA Posts: 1,731	God forbid a gun dealer actually makes a profit....

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