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Old 12-28-2017, 09:23 PM   #1
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Default Fostech AK47 echo trigger.

Fostech is now taking deposits for the new Echo AK trigger. They are in full production, expected shipping 3rd quarter 2018.

Just an FYI.

Half deposit is $250
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Old 12-28-2017, 09:51 PM   #2
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That $500 is the blogger and gun article writer price. Let them get them early and post their reviews and get some clicks. I'll wait till they're down around $300 to get mine.

Ps - How the hell are they in full production now and not expecting to ship for 9 months?
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That $500 is the blogger and gun article writer price. Let them get them early and post their reviews and get some clicks. I'll wait till they're down around $300 to get mine.

Ps - How the hell are they in full production now and not expecting to ship for 9 months?
No the $547 price is the consumer price. Check their website.

Dunno bout why so long maybe it takes awile to make thse triggers. Or they giving a longer then anticipated ship time to account fir possible delays with the manufacturing company.
https://fostech.us/echo-ak-deposits/...l-payment.html
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Any other info on these? Standard bolt carrier and safety selector or will it require special proprietary parts? Would be nice to know before ordering.
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No the $547 price is the consumer price. Check their website.
Thats the introductory price meant for the professional reviewers and youtubers and the rich gotta-have-it-first crowd. It won't always be that high.

Fostech's MSRP was like $480 for their AR-II model while gunprime had it for $299. https://gunprime.com/product/fostech...-15-1-trigger/
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Any other info on these? Standard bolt carrier and safety selector or will it require special proprietary parts? Would be nice to know before ordering.
Do not belive you need anything else on the AK varient like you do with the AR
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I kinda wish a vendor other than Fostech would bring a binary trigger to the AK market.

I have both the Fostech Echo II and Franklin Armory BFS III installed in ARs. I'm no metallurgist or anything but the metal Fostech used in the Echo trigger doesn't give me the feeling that it will be durable long term.
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These are going to be NFA items by this time next year. Order one now while you can.
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These are going to be NFA items by this time next year. Order one now while you can.
Unless they add another category to the NFA, or repeal the Hughes amendment that isn't likely to happen. It would be a ban/confiscation. With them saying 3rd quarter, most likely if a ban happens, it won't get made in the first place.
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But they'll take your pre-order money, in the mean time.
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The Echo AR trigger works like a champ and if they can get the AK version to run that well it would be worth the money. We will hopefully be testing these before they reach market in a wide variety of AKs we have in our library.
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$500 for an AK trigger ??? I must have ate a bad mushroom or something.....
Can buy a whole AK from Romania for ~$500....

The Tapco G2 triggers work like a champ also, and you can ring steel with it all day as Rob has shown.
$40 for a RAK-1 works a little better.......this is something I don't see selling well.

Solution to a problem that doesn't exist with a crazy price point even at half that
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$500 for an AK trigger ??? I must have ate a bad mushroom or something.....
Can buy a whole AK from Romania for ~$500....

The Tapco G2 triggers work like a champ also, and you can ring steel with it all day as Rob has shown.
$40 for a RAK-1 works a little better.......this is something I don't see selling well.

Solution to a problem that doesn't exist with a crazy price point even at half that
You are completely missing the point. A real full auto AK will set you back $20,000+.

$500 is a bargain compared to having what we should have that was taken away from us.

You buy this trigger to mimic full-auto fire but don't want to put up with NFA horseshit and needing a loan to buy one, not to shoot pretty little groups on paper but if you want to it can be set to non-binary semi-auto.
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You are completely missing the point.

You buy this trigger to mimic full-auto fire
I see, yes....I didn't bother reading it......the price just shocked me. I think it's a dangerous gray area......depending on the state you're in.

I'd have to see how it works, but prosecutors are pretty dirty in this arena
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I see, yes....I didn't bother reading it......the price just shocked me.
Well you can blame antigunners and Las Vegas for that.

Just like machineguns, before they were banned there weren't that many of them. They were cheaper and low in demand. Now that we can't have them anymore prices have skyrocketed and will continue to do so especially on foreign imports like AK machineguns. Also having our government wanting to ban them only makes people want them more.

I would rather spend $500 to upgrade than $20,000 and deal with the NFA bureaucracy.
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I'm no metallurgist or anything but the metal Fostech used in the Echo trigger doesn't give me the feeling that it will be durable long term.
I saw people bitching in the echo thread on arfcom about the metal fostech used. For all the bitching, you'd expect to see tons of reports of the triggers falling apart like a ras47. So far, I haven't any videos or pictures of echo triggers in pieces.
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$500 for an AK trigger ??? I must have ate a bad mushroom or something.....
Can buy a whole AK from Romania for ~$500....

The Tapco G2 triggers work like a champ also, and you can ring steel with it all day as Rob has shown.
$40 for a RAK-1 works a little better.......this is something I don't see selling well.

Solution to a problem that doesn't exist with a crazy price point even at half that
Google echo trigger for the AR, its basically a bumpfire binary trigger.

Is the price high? Yeah it is but your paying for a bunpfire without the gay ass stock attached and can shoot it like a normal firearm.

Ill pit mine in a RPK and see how it runs. Cant wait.


Now if they would make one for the CZ scorpion i can die happy.
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I saw people bitching in the echo thread on arfcom about the metal fostech used. For all the bitching, you'd expect to see tons of reports of the triggers falling apart like a ras47. So far, I haven't any videos or pictures of echo triggers in pieces.
You would think for the high price, they would use the best metallurgy they could. Maybe the AK would demand stronger metal.
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Looks like our resident jag officer is still having a hard time understanding liberty...



Anywho, sounds like it could be pretty fun. Too rich for my blood though. I thought about the ar version for my 9mm, but still just feeding it with how often I shoot sounds salty. Still sounds fun.
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It works as intended on AR because of the way AR safety switch is. If for any reason shooter no longer wants to make a shot with release of the trigger, all he/she has to do is flip switch with a thumb, and rifle will not fire.
How exactly is one suppose to accomplish that on an AK? It is almost a guarantee someone will release the trigger while flipping the rifle to get to the safety lever. Everyone i saw, know and including me manipulates safety with a firing hand...

Unless i am confusing something with something, this has "ooops i didnt mean to shoot that" written all over it.
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It works as intended on AR because of the way AR safety switch is. If for any reason shooter no longer wants to make a shot with release of the trigger, all he/she has to do is flip switch with a thumb, and rifle will not fire.
How exactly is one suppose to accomplish that on an AK? It is almost a guarantee someone will release the trigger while flipping the rifle to get to the safety lever. Everyone i saw, know and including me manipulates safety with a firing hand...

Unless i am confusing something with something, this has "ooops i didnt mean to shoot that" written all over it.
Same can be said for the AR “oops” didnt mean to shoot two.

If you dont want to shoot two rounds dont put it on binary. Pretty simple.

If you had a legit full auto or burst firarm you mentally put it on the selection, saying oops i didnt mean to fire 5 rounds at once is no excuse.
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These are going to be NFA items by this time next year. Order one now while you can.
The post Vegas bump stock freak out seems to be dying down, do you see the feds coming after binary triggers? I doubt the ATF will reinterpret their previous decisions (even though this has happened in the past), and new legislation from Congress would be DOA. That being said, states and municipalities will probably do the regulating.
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Same can be said for the AR “oops” didnt mean to shoot two.

If you dont want to shoot two rounds dont put it on binary. Pretty simple.

If you had a legit full auto or burst firarm you mentally put it on the selection, saying oops i didnt mean to fire 5 rounds at once is no excuse.
You didn't get it.
IF while in binary for what ever reason someone does not want to make a shot with release of the trigger, all he/she has to do is flip safety switch with a thumb, and rifle will not fire.
AR safety switch is not AK safety lever.
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You didn't get it.
IF while in binary for what ever reason someone does not want to make a shot with release of the trigger, all he/she has to do is flip safety switch with a thumb, and rifle will not fire.
AR safety switch is not AK safety lever.
You have a valid point. Fostech is going to have to address that issue with the design, hence the price tag I believe. Interested to see what they'll come up with. Perhaps a STG-44 style selector to echo mode? Pure speculation on my part but could be done.
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Damn I still gotta get the franklin HK one....1k in just triggers....Guess its better than 40k.
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You didn't get it.
IF while in binary for what ever reason someone does not want to make a shot with release of the trigger, all he/she has to do is flip safety switch with a thumb, and rifle will not fire.
AR safety switch is not AK safety lever.
I cant even begin to think of any reason why this is even an issue. Finding it really hard to see any issue.

If you’re at a range firing away on binary, and for whatever readon you want to atop but already pulled the trigger on round one. Just point it down range and fire the next one. Whats the deal??


In a use of force situation put two round the the motherfucker. And a few more for good measure.


Youre way over complicating this shit.
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I cant even begin to think of any reason why this is even an issue. Finding it really hard to see any issue.

If you’re at a range firing away on binary, and for whatever readon you want to atop but already pulled the trigger on round one. Just point it down range and fire the next one. Whats the deal??


In a use of force situation put two round the the motherfucker. And a few more for good measure.


Youre way over complicating this shit.
Not trying to stir up sh#t here, but I believe the point was that Fostech's pitch for the AR echo trigger was the safety feature of firing one round in echo, changing your mind and with the trigger still depressed, flipping the selector to safe/semi. Why the hell anyone would do that is beyond me...only scenario I can come up with is maybe you're at a controlled range, firing slowly in echo mode when the cease fire whistle is blown...pretty far fetched scenario anyway.

I agree with you in principle though...if you're intentionally sending rounds downrange rapidly in echo mode on an AK, you're not going to suddenly change your mind and wish you could not fire a round on release. But Fostech can't build something that way, as they could get a reputation for an "unsafe' product. BS if you ask me but that's the reality.
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You are completely missing the point. A real full auto AK will set you back $20,000+.

$500 is a bargain compared to having what we should have that was taken away from us.

You buy this trigger to mimic full-auto fire but don't want to put up with NFA horseshit and needing a loan to buy one, not to shoot pretty little groups on paper but if you want to it can be set to non-binary semi-auto.
Except it's not full auto. It's a light pull that fires a round again when let off. In my opinion it's an accident waiting to happen for somebody out there. 500 is a steep price for a market not many people are even interested in. I realize some some work and machining went into this but 500? Nope. You can shoot almost as fast with a fucking 60 dollar ALG trigger. Sure itll be twice the pulls and double the time but thats still pretty fast considering.

But if that's what makes you happy have at it. I won't knock it, just not for me.
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all my fostech products run like champs. we can debate on price, I'd be interested after it gets out in the market and tested.

I don't think anything is getting "banned" at least until after mid-terms.
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Has anyone seen any updates on the AK Echo? I'm assuming Fostech was at the Shot Show. I would like to see some pictures and/ or a working AK, with the Echo installed. I have not seen Fostech's booth shown, in any of the Shot Show videos on youtube.
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We shipped them a bunch of different style AKs right before Christmas and they were going to be testing them in various different production models. From what we've been told things are moving forward smoothly and with good success .
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Ps - How the hell are they in full production now and not expecting to ship for 9 months?
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Was Fostech at the Shot Show?
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