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Old 05-28-2018, 11:23 PM   #1
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Default NDM-86 Chinese black paint

Has anyone ever resprayed their NDM-86? Is there a paint that matches?

Recently got one and unfortunately it was sold as new but it was quite clearly shot. I don't want to return it but I'm evaluating my options to clean it up.
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Old 05-28-2018, 11:30 PM   #2
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Has anyone ever resprayed their NDM-86? Is there a paint that matches?

Recently got one and unfortunately it was sold as new but it was quite clearly shot. I don't want to return it but I'm evaluating my options to clean it up.
I would not refinish such a rare firearm. I've never handled one of those before but I would have thought it would be blued instead of painted, most Chinese rifles are blued.
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Old 05-28-2018, 11:46 PM   #3
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I'd vote no, don't touch it.
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Old 05-29-2018, 12:17 AM   #4
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Old 05-29-2018, 02:00 AM   #5
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I would not refinish such a rare firearm. I've never handled one of those before but I would have thought it would be blued instead of painted, most Chinese rifles are blued.
The Chinese Dragunovs are painted.

In principle I agree. However I like to have at least all the facts about any options, irrespective of the likelihood I'd do it (which is quite low).

It's just a damn shame because I paid a significant sum and am disappointed.
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Old 05-29-2018, 09:51 AM   #6
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The paint on the NDM-86s (including military issue ones) is terrible and flakes if you stare at it too hard. That being said I wouldn’t mess with it. The rifle will only be all original once.
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What wollman said. It very well could be new with crappy paint...
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Old 05-29-2018, 10:26 PM   #8
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The very first time I slid the scope on mine, it scraped the paint off the rail. No big deal; it was made to use. Just enjoy it as it was manufactured and be happy you have one dude. It's a rifle, not a holy relic.





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Old 05-30-2018, 06:47 PM   #9
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Has anyone ever resprayed their NDM-86? Is there a paint that matches?

Recently got one and unfortunately it was sold as new but it was quite clearly shot. I don't want to return it but I'm evaluating my options to clean it up.

Rustoleum gloss black is a good match but I wouldn't recommend re-painting it.
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Old 05-31-2018, 08:35 AM   #10
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I had mine refinished because the quality of the Chinese paint is meh and it looks terrible shiny

In today's market the NDM86 is so rare I doubt you will lose a penny if the original finish has been replaced. For me it doesn't factor in when I look at the value of the rifle, but I'm a shooter, not a collector

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Old 06-01-2018, 04:08 PM   #11
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I had mine refinished because the quality of the Chinese paint is meh and it looks terrible shiny

In today's market the NDM86 is so rare I doubt you will lose a penny if the original finish has been replaced. For me it doesn't factor in when I look at the value of the rifle, but I'm a shooter, not a collector

Thank you for your candid input.
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Old 06-02-2018, 04:21 AM   #12
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On an unrelated note, upon further inspection of my rifle I've noticed some interesting things - and no I'm not arguing it's a Russian gun - but they are interesting things:

This is a KFS import in the velvet case

-Came with a Russian sling

-russian rear sight

-Scrubbed of all markings (you can see where they obliterated them)

-Bolt milled more like a Russian bolt than a Chinese bolt compared to examples in the Forgotten Weapons video. It is milled off for the Chinese redundant disconnector

-handguards scrubbed of original serial numbers on the inside

-trigger group looks like it was welded up where the safety sear went

Thoughts?
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Old 06-02-2018, 10:51 AM   #13
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I wouldn't be surprised if the Chinese had access to a bunch of Russian parts kits back then.
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Pics would help...
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Old 06-02-2018, 12:01 PM   #15
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I had mine refinished because the quality of the Chinese paint is meh and it looks terrible shiny

In today's market the NDM86 is so rare I doubt you will lose a penny if the original finish has been replaced. For me it doesn't factor in when I look at the value of the rifle, but I'm a shooter, not a collector

This is what I have always thought, the original paint is shitty. Where did you have it refinished and with what?
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It was done in Houston about 8 years ago at Elk River Tool and Die. They've closed shop since and moved to Wyoming or Montana. Gunkote, IRC
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