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Old 11-21-2015, 03:15 PM   #1
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Hello guys.
I know in US SVDs are cobsidered to be "collectors items" but for ourselves we consider it just a rifle.

So when I've bought myself an 1967 SVD and decided i like the rifle but the impossibility to mount normal optics drove me mad...

so as the result - we've developed chassis for Dragunov which free-floats barrel, allow to mount all accessories you need as well any scope.*

Also you can now clean the rifle without taking down the scope.

Chassis is patent pending right now but it can be added to any dragunov\Tigr\NDM SVD clone.

[patrol config]


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[Old with new. Same weight]


Now it's time to make some 18 rounders.
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Old 11-21-2015, 03:18 PM   #2
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This is the patrol config rifle will stay till new lower hadguards shall come out from CNC shop


And of course 10 rounds aren't enough to shoot in Heavy Metal class, so welded prototype of 17 rounders are at place:
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That is actually nice as fucking hell
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Neat. I like it.

It'd be nice if putin would get rid of the voluntary agreement, and start sending svd's here, just to piss of odumbo
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OMG!!! I like modern AK's but that is just wrong in so many levels.
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So how much are SCU's in Czeckh Republic?
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Old 11-21-2015, 04:07 PM   #8
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OMG!!! I like modern AK's but that is just wrong in so many levels.
thank you.

when you drop "Ave Caesar" you'll find that SVD is just a rifle.

and this rifle should be approached the same way you approach all 1MOA systems:
- freefloat barrel
- add normal muzzle break
- remove all unnecessary furniture from the barrel (700 grams of dead weight)
- add a rail which sits low
- add an stock inline with barrel channel to mitigate the recoil impulse
- put a modern optic atop of it

Now the system weight (without scope) is the same as base SVD + steel side mount. 4190 grams with 22.5" barrel.

we're making now smaller barrel nut and slimmer lower handguard. it'll save 190 grams.
also we're now making carbon fiber stock with adjustable cheekpiece - it'll save additional 150 grams. So the weight in DMR config will be 3750 grams with 22.5" - the same as stock SVDS from the factory and 1500grams lighter than SVDM.



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and the rifle can be converted back if you need - so the chassis is not a permanent thing
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Thanks for the post. Not my thing, but nice to see what the rest of the world does with guns that they find common.
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Old 11-21-2015, 04:55 PM   #10
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It's different, I appreciate for what it is
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Old 11-21-2015, 05:08 PM   #11
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Zdar, pěkná práce, líbí se mi, ale tady asi nenajdeš moc těch, kdo to ocení. Jsou tu spíš sběratelé než modernizátoři a dragunov je pro ně skoro posvátný kvér.
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Old 11-21-2015, 05:28 PM   #12
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Zdar, pěkná práce, líbí se mi, ale tady asi nenajdeš moc těch, kdo to ocení. Jsou tu spíš sběratelé než modernizátoři a dragunov je pro ně skoro posvátný kvér.
No doubt we find it sacred! Shoot.. Any rifle I spend 15-20k US dollars on should be sacred. I do appreciate the post and I respect what he's done to that rifle, very unique. Im jealous I don't have svd rifles laying around like it ain't no thing!

But yes, you'll find most people in these parts to be purists when it comes to the SVD.
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Just to make it clear, SVD is not at all a CHEAP rifle here. It's not even too common, mainly due to the price. It's just not something unique or unavailable, if you have the money.
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Old 11-21-2015, 05:43 PM   #14
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Guys.

i understand the collectible value of SVD in US.

But for us - it's just a rifle. A good rifle with all shortcomings you can find in rifle 70 years old. And since there are a lot of these rifles around - we don't see the reason make them safe queens.

This 1967's SVD was $4K when bought.
Tigr's we're now working on were just $900 - so for us it's just like cheap AR system in US.

Currently we're building 15.7" Tigr's in our chassis - just to allow guys to shoot heavy metal matches.

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for example when we've made shorty Mosins - everyone said it's insane to drop money to $150 rifle but we just like what we do - http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2...mosin-surgery/
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I like it. I would like a 54r to go with my 308.
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Old 11-21-2015, 08:51 PM   #16
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My eyes!!!! That's like fooling with a 69' GTO Judge or a 71' Hemi Cuda....you jet don't do it, but different strokes for different folks.
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Very interesting concept, I would hope the clamp on the rail would be strong enough to keep it where it stays.
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I like it! If I had more than one rifle I'd be very tempted just for a scope mounting alternative. Personally, I don't like tha AR stock and grip, they are not nice enough to compliment the look of the chassis. It looks like the designer quit working too soon.
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What did you do with all the original SVD parts you removed? I could sure use some of those "old leftovers" from them...
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Very interesting concept, I would hope the clamp on the rail would be strong enough to keep it where it stays.
Upper rail stays not only on clamp-on but also on a barrel nut, fixed on the action


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Good to see what is being done to these rifles where they are more available. I'm sure there would be more of that going on here if they were easy/cheap to find. Heck, I'd love to put a suppressor on mine, but can't bring myself to modify it that much.
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It's strange that having all that industry of rebarreling you don't want just to make new barrel to use with supressor.

I mean all barrel furniture could be bought. Barrel is on thread inside action (without any glue etc) - it could be just removed with 2 big clamps


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What did you do with all the original SVD parts you removed? I could sure use some of those "old leftovers" from them...


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I love it. I'd buy another Tiger to mod with this if it was available to us on this side of the pond.
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Upper rail stays not only on clamp-on but also on a barrel nut, fixed on the action
Perfect. Have you tried using another fastening system other than Keymod? Seems M-LOK is somewhat popular right now here in the U.S.

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It's strange that having all that industry of rebarreling you don't want just to make new barrel to use with supressor.
Finding a place here to make SVD barrels isn't easy, nor is it cheap. On top of that there's even fewer places that know how to make the extractor cut properly. It's one of the many downsides to having a rifle of limited quantity in a country.
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OMG!!! I like modern AK's but that is just wrong in so many levels.
well, like he said, SVDs aren't a rarity in Czech Republic.

BUT if that was done in the U.S, that would be a total abomination lol
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Finding a place here to make SVD barrels isn't easy, nor is it cheap. On top of that there's even fewer places that know how to make the extractor cut properly. It's one of the many downsides to having a rifle of limited quantity in a country.
We've made M-LOK version, but Keymod accessories is easier to find on this side of globe.

Regarding rebarreling - any shop which makes Mosin's re-barrel would be able to make SVD barrel.
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well, like he said, SVDs aren't a rarity in Czech Republic.

BUT if that was done in the U.S, that would be a total abomination lol
Well. Seems we need a partner who'll be able to CNC SVD receivers in US.
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Regarding rebarreling - any shop which makes Mosin's re-barrel would be able to make SVD barrel.
Mosin's are the other extreme of the cost range. They've been so cheap here that it's pretty rare anyone would re-barrel one, it'd cost more to do that than buy a new rifle.

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Well. Seems we need a partner who'll be able to CNC SVD receivers in US.
Supposedly someone is working on making a US SVD pattern rifle, discussed here. Haven't heard anything lately about it though.
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Well. Seems we need a partner who'll be able to CNC SVD receivers in US.
This keeps comin up, but no one makes progress.

Its a good business opportunity.
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Welcome.

Now kill it with fire

Lol kidding, while it's not for me, it aint bad work.
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