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Old 01-05-2018, 12:22 PM   #36
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For dry firing, Azoom is your friend:

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_n...ap+cap+7.62x39
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Old 01-05-2018, 01:14 PM   #37
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For dry firing, Azoom is your friend:

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_n...ap+cap+7.62x39
Not sure why you guys keep popping up with "snap caps" . .

Modern centerfire guns ( "modern" = "since 1960" ) are safe to dry fire, and military guns are designed with dry firing in mind ( a military gun may see more dry firing than actual firing, what with drills & regular maintenance [ "dry firing" is part of the cleaning regimen on military guns ])


Snap caps make good training aids for stoppage clearing and whatnot, but are totally unnecessary to "protec da gun" when dry firing it.

Put another way - if you have a modern centerfire gun that can't stand up to dry firing, you've got a cheap POS.
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Old 01-05-2018, 03:35 PM   #38
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Not sure why you guys keep popping up with "snap caps" . .

Modern centerfire guns ( "modern" = "since 1960" ) are safe to dry fire, and military guns are designed with dry firing in mind ( a military gun may see more dry firing than actual firing, what with drills & regular maintenance [ "dry firing" is part of the cleaning regimen on military guns ])


Snap caps make good training aids for stoppage clearing and whatnot, but are totally unnecessary to "protec da gun" when dry firing it.

Put another way - if you have a modern centerfire gun that can't stand up to dry firing, you've got a cheap POS.
This post nails it.....and is Gunsmith approved.
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Old 01-05-2018, 10:17 PM   #39
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When a mag runs dry and you pull the trigger...,,,

My saiga has a loose retaining pin bet yours did too probably fell out while you were working on it
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Old 01-06-2018, 12:17 AM   #40
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When a mag runs dry and you pull the trigger...,,,

My saiga has a loose retaining pin bet yours did too probably fell out while you were working on it
Whatever... Loose retaining pin or not.. Who wouldn't notice a firing pin falling out of their bolt?

Either the OPs bolt never had pin or they stripped the bolt and failed to replace it. A firing pin even without the retaining pin cannot simply fall out in an assembled rifle.
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I've dry fired my AKs and ARs thousands of times over the years. No problems at all. I will continue to do so. Observing reasonable safety precautions of course.

However, I will never dry fire my Sig 556R again. The firing pin snapped after dry firing only a few times. The firing pin is thin and has complex machining. Plus the hammer spring is ridiculously strong so lesson learned.
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I've dry fired my AKs and ARs thousands of times over the years. No problems at all. I will continue to do so. Observing reasonable safety precautions of course.

However, I will never dry fire my Sig 556R again. The firing pin snapped after dry firing only a few times. The firing pin is thin and has complex machining. Plus the hammer spring is ridiculously strong so lesson learned.
Sounds like you got a beer o'clock production firing pin.

Did you contact Sig and tell'em about it?
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I've dry fired my AKs and ARs thousands of times over the years. No problems at all. I will continue to do so. Observing reasonable safety precautions of course.

However, I will never dry fire my Sig 556R again. The firing pin snapped after dry firing only a few times. The firing pin is thin and has complex machining. Plus the hammer spring is ridiculously strong so lesson learned.
There is a reason why the 556R isn't made anymore, you have found it.
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Don't laugh, guys. I have had firing pins disintegrate from dry firing as well. I have reached out to both David Duchovny and Gillian Anderson for answers. Good new is that they have both read all of my emails. The bad news is that they haven't responded after almost two years of very descriptive and well-documented reports.
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Whatever... Loose retaining pin or not.. Who wouldn't notice a firing pin falling out of their bolt?

Either the OPs bolt never had pin or they stripped the bolt and failed to replace it. A firing pin even without the retaining pin cannot simply fall out in an assembled rifle.
Kind of my point the rifle is built to take a dry fire when it runs dry so I don't think that's the cause. It either never had a firing pin in it or it came apart while he was working on it. If it had broke you'd think there would be pieces in the receiver and bolt.
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I actually remove the firing pin and put a rubber plug in th back of the bolt for my dry firing. I donít do it because Iím worried about it breaking anything, just because I donít want to mark some of my guns up too much, and more importantly to prevent an accidental discharge. Itís easy as hell to remove and replace the firing pin, so why not. Iíve started doing this with my ARís too.
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I see Rob said it was OK. He may be right, but I don't like the idea on an AK. Maybe it's just mental, but seems like the firing pin could be damaged. They're cheap, but so are snap caps.
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Not sure why you guys keep popping up with "snap caps" . .

Modern centerfire guns ( "modern" = "since 1960" ) are safe to dry fire, and military guns are designed with dry firing in mind ( a military gun may see more dry firing than actual firing, what with drills & regular maintenance [ "dry firing" is part of the cleaning regimen on military guns ])


Snap caps make good training aids for stoppage clearing and whatnot, but are totally unnecessary to "protec da gun" when dry firing it.

Put another way - if you have a modern centerfire gun that can't stand up to dry firing, you've got a cheap POS.
May be right, but if he wants to use them, it's his stuff.......
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I see Rob said it was OK. He may be right, but I don't like the idea on an AK. Maybe it's just mental, but seems like the firing pin could be damaged. They're cheap, but so are snap caps.
How? The rear of the bolt is going to take all the force from the hammer.. I would be more worried about damage to inferior US made hammers and or mushrooming to the end of the bolt than anything happening to the pin itself.
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How? The rear of the bolt is going to take all the force from the hammer.. I would be more worried about damage to inferior US made hammers and or mushrooming to the end of the bolt than anything happening to the pin itself.
Don't know. Really don't see the need to dry fire an AK either.
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You guys are fucking stupid, OP just trolled you all.
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Sounds like you got a beer o'clock production firing pin.

Did you contact Sig and tell'em about it?
Yep. They replaced it for free. Didn't seem surprised either.

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There is a reason why the 556R isn't made anymore, you have found it.
I wish I could say that was the only problem I've had with the 556R. It took me a lot of work to get it running reliably. But that's a whole other thread...
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