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Old 05-14-2017, 04:42 PM   #176
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Alright sounds great. Also congratulations on the new process and streamlining. You are a real asset to the shooting community

By what you just stated it looks like I should get to buying some 6.5 Veprs.
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Old 05-15-2017, 02:15 PM   #177
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Starting? yeah. Completing? I can't say for sure.

Just for what it is worth our tooling guy came up with a way to greatly reduce tooling design. Last set of tooling that just finished was done in less than a month and as advanced as ones that took almost six months.. He thinks the next set which he is starting on next week should only take a couple weeks.. Better cheaper and faster.

Our soon to release M14 30 round mags are the start of this tooling type, the magazines will all look similar despite being for different calibers.

We may end up rolling out two new items at the same time in the somewhat near future.
Sounds good!!!

Will you're 6.5 G mags have their own bullet guide (like the Vepr magazine) or will they require a bullet guide to be installed on the rifle?

I assume there is no downside to having the bullet guide on the mag itself, as they should function in Veprs as well as any rifle with its own bullet guide.
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Old 05-15-2017, 03:39 PM   #178
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Sounds good!!!

Will you're 6.5 G mags have their own bullet guide (like the Vepr magazine) or will they require a bullet guide to be installed on the rifle?

I assume there is no downside to having the bullet guide on the mag itself, as they should function in Veprs as well as any rifle with its own bullet guide.
It would be like the factory magazines. Those are looking to be the standard for an AK in 6.5. Basically the same as the vepr .308 or saiga .308, no bullet guide needed.

Adding a bullet guide on the rifle makes sense for the 7.62x39 .223 and 5.45x39 as those all have military magazines in that pattern. On the 6.5 there is no other magazine so no reason to make two patterns.
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It would be like the factory magazines. Those are looking to be the standard for an AK in 6.5. Basically the same as the vepr .308 or saiga .308, no bullet guide needed.

Adding a bullet guide on the rifle makes sense for the 7.62x39 .223 and 5.45x39 as those all have military magazines in that pattern. On the 6.5 there is no other magazine so no reason to make two patterns.
Thanks for the info! Looking forward to making multiple purchases of your 6.5 Grendel mag!
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Old 06-03-2017, 10:39 AM   #180
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Well I finally got in ammo and the rifle to check out.
I did test a couple ak mags to confirm that we are not wasting our time.. Sure enough an AK mag sort of works, it will have bolt ride overs fairly easy. You could have two mags work perfect and then fail every round after.. The tendency to feed front high helps reduce jams due to the lack of a bullet guide but I find this is not very reliable.

I checked several .223 and 5.45x39 mags and found the case demensions do not allow for correct nesting.

It does look like 10 round saiga or vepr 7.62x39 mags are your best option outside of actual 6.5 magazines.
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Hopefully being able to start with the dimensions of a the AKM mag makes it a faster process to make something.

The round angle and bolt-overs are just the rounds not being held level and flush with the feed lips at the top.
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Old 06-04-2017, 02:32 PM   #182
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Well I finally got in ammo and the rifle to check out.
I did test a couple ak mags to confirm that we are not wasting our time.. Sure enough an AK mag sort of works, it will have bolt ride overs fairly easy. You could have two mags work perfect and then fail every round after.. The tendency to feed front high helps reduce jams due to the lack of a bullet guide but I find this is not very reliable.

I checked several .223 and 5.45x39 mags and found the case demensions do not allow for correct nesting.

It does look like 10 round saiga or vepr 7.62x39 mags are your best option outside of actual 6.5 magazines.


Keep us posted! We're looking forward to ordering multiple hi-cap 6.5 Grendel mags asap!!!
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Old 06-26-2017, 11:00 AM   #183
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has anyone tried the 10 round Croatian bolt hold open mags?
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Old 06-27-2017, 06:33 PM   #184
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Well I finally got in ammo and the rifle to check out.
I did test a couple ak mags to confirm that we are not wasting our time.. Sure enough an AK mag sort of works, it will have bolt ride overs fairly easy. You could have two mags work perfect and then fail every round after.. The tendency to feed front high helps reduce jams due to the lack of a bullet guide but I find this is not very reliable.

I checked several .223 and 5.45x39 mags and found the case demensions do not allow for correct nesting.

It does look like 10 round saiga or vepr 7.62x39 mags are your best option outside of actual 6.5 magazines.
I have a buddy that has had very promising results feeding 6.5 Grendel from a 5.56 Galil mag into a 7.62x39 AK. Couple of missfeeds every mag, typically in the middle of the mag. We are trying to figure out if it's a problem related to the slightly larger chamber. If you could put a bullet guide on one of those, or if someone with a 6.5vepr with an installed
Bullet guide could try one, it could be just the ticket. A 35 round Galil mag held 32 or 33 rounds of 6.5 Grendel
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Old 06-28-2017, 12:08 PM   #185
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I have a buddy that has had very promising results feeding 6.5 Grendel from a 5.56 Galil mag into a 7.62x39 AK. Couple of missfeeds every mag, typically in the middle of the mag. We are trying to figure out if it's a problem related to the slightly larger chamber. If you could put a bullet guide on one of those, or if someone with a 6.5vepr with an installed
Bullet guide could try one, it could be just the ticket. A 35 round Galil mag held 32 or 33 rounds of 6.5 Grendel
About to order a few from Apex. Hopefully I don't get my credit card info stolen.
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Old 06-28-2017, 12:26 PM   #186
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I have a buddy that has had very promising results feeding 6.5 Grendel from a 5.56 Galil mag into a 7.62x39 AK. Couple of missfeeds every mag, typically in the middle of the mag. We are trying to figure out if it's a problem related to the slightly larger chamber. If you could put a bullet guide on one of those, or if someone with a 6.5vepr with an installed
Bullet guide could try one, it could be just the ticket. A 35 round Galil mag held 32 or 33 rounds of 6.5 Grendel
I tried a surplus Galil mag and an aftermarket Bulgarian Galil mag and they did not work with 6.5 Grendel -- would start binding up after loading 8 or 10 rounds. Now, they "might" work if you modify a standard AR 6.5 G follower to fit in the Galil mag.

YMMV, but it would be great if Csspecs would bring a dedicated 6.5 G hi-cap mag to production. Don't know what their status is on that with the new ban on Molot, but it would seem that Csspec could capture the whole 6.5 G AK mag market since Molot is now out of the picture.

I see that there are still some standard 6.5 Grendel Veprs for sale at Kvar for more or less reasonable prices.

http://www.k-var.com/shop/Vepr-rifles/

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So now that rifles are not coming in will they continue forward on making these ??
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So now that rifles are not coming in will they continue forward on making these ??
We will probably start on it in a month... Happy?
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We will probably start on it in a month... Happy?
Yep -- I'll buy at least a half-dozen, or more depending on the initial price!
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Yay! It'll be 10 round magpul AK mags in the meantime.
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We will probably start on it in a month... Happy?
OK, it's been a month. Do you need a tester?
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In the near term, until Csspecs releases their magazine, how reliable have the Tapco mags been? How many have had success with them? Would you term them good to go for a defensive use rifle, or only for a range toy?

Trying to decide if I should make the leap, or not.
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In the near term, until Csspecs releases their magazine, how reliable have the Tapco mags been? How many have had success with them? Would you term them good to go for a defensive use rifle, or only for a range toy?

Trying to decide if I should make the leap, or not.
I would, they will eventually make it and then no magazine concerns. Magpul do work, but I don't consider them no more then range magazines
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We will probably start on it in a month... Happy?
Any more news on the VEPR 6.5 Grendel magazines?
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Any more news on the VEPR 6.5 Grendel magazines?
I got email from them, its next in line
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What barrel length do you guys have if you have a 6.5 vepr? I'm debating the 20 vs 23 but wonder how the 23 inch handles in terms of the weight.
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What barrel length do you guys have if you have a 6.5 vepr? I'm debating the 20 vs 23 but wonder how the 23 inch handles in terms of the weight.
I have 20". It depends what you going to do with rifle, but I think its 20" gives you more options. If you want to use rifle for close engagement 20" is short enough that you can still do that, 23" would be too long.
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Remember that the major allure of the 6.5 Grendel is that it's more potent than the 5.56x45, but can fit in a rifle of the same size. If you're going all the way out to 23", that's a big AK. At that point, I'd just go ahead and get a Vepr chambered for a more potent cartridge. I think you're debate should be between the 16" and 20" versions.
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I wonder what kind of ballpark time frame that means... 3 months, 6 months, 9?
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I wonder what kind of ballpark time frame that means... 3 months, 6 months, 9?
I would say 6 month just in case, but i would be happy that CSSPECS is willing to take on project on rifles that banned on odd caliber. Least we can do is support them. And when they do come out buy 5 of them. I bought 5 3006 vepr mags and they awesome.
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Least we can do is support them. And when they do come out buy 5 of them. I bought 5 3006 vepr mags and they awesome.

I agree 100%
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I would say 6 month just in case, but i would be happy that CSSPECS is willing to take on project on rifles that banned on odd caliber. Least we can do is support them. And when they do come out buy 5 of them. I bought 5 3006 vepr mags and they awesome.
Assuming that the price is in line with the others that I purchased from them, I'll probably buy ten.
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Assuming that the price is in line with the others that I purchased from them, I'll probably buy ten.
I don't think it be more then vepr 308, it less complicated then 54r
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I would say 6 month just in case, but i would be happy that CSSPECS is willing to take on project on rifles that banned on odd caliber. Least we can do is support them. And when they do come out buy 5 of them. I bought 5 3006 vepr mags and they awesome.
I'm quite happy with this, planning up buying how ever many it takes to load up 1000rounds.
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Remember that the major allure of the 6.5 Grendel is that it's more potent than the 5.56x45, but can fit in a rifle of the same size. If you're going all the way out to 23", that's a big AK. At that point, I'd just go ahead and get a Vepr chambered for a more potent cartridge. I think you're debate should be between the 16" and 20" versions.
I think you are both right. I already have a 24 inch Bartlein barreled AR but it is not 100 % reliable. I think a 20 inch would be a good balance for this cartridge for practical all around use.
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My 18" ar is simply pretty okay. I think I'd be a bit happier were it 20 or 22 inch.

and mine as is, hates steel ammo. I'm still working on that.
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My 18" ar is simply pretty okay. I think I'd be a bit happier were it 20 or 22 inch.

and mine as is, hates steel ammo. I'm still working on that.
Yeah, it is nice to get a bit more velocity. With Precision Firearms' 129 gr ABLR I am getting 2562 ft/sec it is supersonic out to ~1150 at sea level. It is finicky suppressed but I have not played too much with the adjustable gas block. It will run fine then have a bad malfunction where it deforms the bullet tip.

In some ways, I want to go H2H with a 23 inch vepr and nice glass versus the AR with Bartlein barrel just to see if I can get it out to 1,000 yds with some consistency. It would be awesome to take an AK out to the 1,000 yd range and ping steel! But I know that a 20 inch is just better all around and 16 inch would be cool too.
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Remember that the major allure of the 6.5 Grendel is that it's more potent than the 5.56x45, but can fit in a rifle of the same size. If you're going all the way out to 23", that's a big AK. At that point, I'd just go ahead and get a Vepr chambered for a more potent cartridge. I think you're debate should be between the 16" and 20" versions.
I bought a 16" barrel but have been rethinking that I should have a 20" made with no fsb provision.
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