Go Back   The AK Files Forums > Rifle Forums > AK-47s

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 03-20-2017, 09:42 AM   #1
Martensite
Senior Member
 
Martensite's Avatar
 
AKaholic #: 188470
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Texas
Posts: 856
Default GunsAmerica Review of the C39V2...

Here's yet another positive review of Century's C39V2...I usually find GunsAmerica's reviews to be some of the most unbiased out there. However, that doesn't mean I'm going to run out and buy one...

Comments?

https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/ame...2-full-review/
Martensite is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2017, 09:48 AM   #2
nalioth
Devil's Advocate & Moderator
 
nalioth's Avatar
 
AKaholic #: 5678
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 34,758
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Martensite View Post
Comments?
Sure. This is your link:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Martensite View Post
"https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/american-ak-7-62x39mm-century-c39v2-full-review/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=20170320_BlogDigest_216&utm_campaign=/blog/american-ak-7-62x39mm-century-c39v2-full-review/"
here's a link without all that tracking nonsense:

https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/american-ak-7-62x39mm-century-c39v2-full-review/

GunsAmerica allows all sorts of thievery, so beware.
nalioth is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2017, 09:50 AM   #3
dan326
WASR Lover
 
dan326's Avatar
 
AKaholic #: 169937
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: South Florida
Posts: 5,125
Default

American made AK or Comm bloc?

Hard to decide.....

When there are still so many options out there I have absolutely zero interest in an American made Kalash.
dan326 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2017, 09:57 AM   #4
Tankboy
Curio & Relic
Contributor
 
Tankboy's Avatar
 
AKaholic #: 183589
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Indiana
Posts: 3,235
Default

I'll take it.
Tankboy is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2017, 10:07 AM   #5
Martensite
Senior Member
 
Martensite's Avatar
 
AKaholic #: 188470
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Texas
Posts: 856
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by nalioth View Post
Sure. This is your link:


here's a link without all that tracking nonsense:

https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/american-ak-7-62x39mm-century-c39v2-full-review/

GunsAmerica allows all sorts of thievery, so beware.
Interesting...didn't notice / hadn't heard about all that...
Martensite is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2017, 10:08 AM   #6
Martensite
Senior Member
 
Martensite's Avatar
 
AKaholic #: 188470
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Texas
Posts: 856
Default

I thought it was interesting how they compared it to a classic Chinese MAK90 thumb-holer during the author's class. Suposedly everybody ended up preferring the C39V2.
Martensite is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2017, 10:20 AM   #7
Bakwa
Senior Member
 
Bakwa's Avatar
 
AKaholic #: 190595
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: The Swamp, FL
Posts: 711
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Martensite View Post
I thought it was interesting how they compared it to a classic Chinese MAK90 thumb-holer during the author's class. Suposedly everybody ended up preferring the C39V2.
I LOL'd at that.
Must have been a pretty crappy example of a MAK. I shot my NHM-90 and C39v2 side-by-side when I owned both, and the Chinese gun had a much better trigger not to mention it was at least a smooth as the C39v2 even weighing in 1lb lighter that the American made milled rifle. Also mine were equally as accurate.
One small difference though: The Chinese rifle wont lose it's head-space under 10,000rds.
__________________
Ounces equal pounds, pounds equal pain.
Bakwa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2017, 10:23 AM   #8
Nick954
Member
 
AKaholic #: 191914
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Miami, florida
Posts: 55
Default

I wonder how many people that swear off american aks will buy the kalashnikov usa alpha or 9mm if they turn out to be good guns?
Nick954 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2017, 10:54 AM   #9
LegioRomanus
Curio & Relic
 
AKaholic #: 167972
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Appalachia
Posts: 2,470
Default

IF they would start making the C-39 v2 OUT OF QUALITY STEEL then it might be a good solid rifle.

Pretty obvious they are producing with "soft steel" and building these to last only for about 5,000 rounds or so......

As always......BUYER BEWARE.
LegioRomanus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2017, 10:58 AM   #10
7.62menace
Senior Member
 
AKaholic #: 183688
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Springfield,Illinois
Posts: 626
Default

Still wont buy it
7.62menace is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2017, 04:33 PM   #11
Váli
Member
 
Váli's Avatar
 
AKaholic #: 182986
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: I can see the bay and the beach from here. Turn around and there's the trees. FL
Posts: 86
Default

Váli is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2017, 04:40 PM   #12
Buckshotbob
It is what it is
Silver Contributor
 
Buckshotbob's Avatar
 
AKaholic #: 181400
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: New Mexico
Posts: 1,080
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 7.62menace View Post
Still wont buy it
You are not alone!
__________________
"Prepare to fight — for, evidently, you have found peace intolerable" - Scipio Africanus


AKFiles Custom Search
Buckshotbob is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2017, 04:46 PM   #13
hoevito
Superhero
 
hoevito's Avatar
 
AKaholic #: 163060
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: DFW
Posts: 1,443
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Martensite View Post
Here's yet another positive review of Century's C39V2...I usually find GunsAmerica's reviews to be some of the most unbiased out there. However, that doesn't mean I'm going to run out and buy one...

Comments?

https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/ame...2-full-review/

__________________
AR's and AK's go together like ass and titties...having one or the other is ok, but true gentlemen prefer them both.
hoevito is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2017, 04:49 PM   #14
fear21
Member
 
fear21's Avatar
 
AKaholic #: 175672
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Milton, FL
Posts: 371
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LegioRomanus View Post
IF they would start making the C-39 v2 OUT OF QUALITY STEEL then it might be a good solid rifle.

Pretty obvious they are producing with "soft steel" and building these to last only for about 5,000 rounds or so......

As always......BUYER BEWARE.
The one I saw was eating itself after 500. No bueno.
fear21 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2017, 06:23 PM   #15
MOTOROLANUT
Veteran Member
 
AKaholic #: 187095
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Out in left field of the US of A
Posts: 1,506
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LegioRomanus View Post
IF they would start making the C-39 v2 OUT OF QUALITY STEEL then it might be a good solid rifle.

Pretty obvious they are producing with "soft steel" and building these to last only for about 5,000 rounds or so......

As always......BUYER BEWARE.
Agreed ....Stay far far away from them.
MOTOROLANUT is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2017, 06:31 PM   #16
Tommo
Curio & Relic
Silver Contributor
 
Tommo's Avatar
 
AKaholic #: 1190
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Fairfax, VA, USA
Posts: 6,308
Default

OEM quality is best IMHE.
Tommo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2017, 06:38 PM   #17
BFPUAKM
Member
 
AKaholic #: 191073
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: NC
Posts: 39
Default

I have a 93 imported Maadi ARM and a WASR. I would not trade those two rifles for four of those things.
BFPUAKM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2017, 06:44 PM   #18
86250rrippin
Curio & Relic
Bronze Contributor
 
86250rrippin's Avatar
 
AKaholic #: 165448
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: EASTERN STANDARD TIME
Posts: 4,620
Default

I feel fortunate to have all the ak variants i could want .............none are us built . no worries here
__________________
"Century rifles eat no go gauges for breakfast " Metatron
86250rrippin is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2017, 07:09 PM   #19
edsinger
Member
 
edsinger's Avatar
 
AKaholic #: 192057
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Indiana
Posts: 260
Default

"The parts are made from high-quality steel and heat-treated, and Century claims they have passed a 15,000-round endurance test."

"Once the dust had settled, there was not even one student who chose the MAK90; the consensus was that the C39V2 won hands down. "

I saw this post and read the review, and I KNEW shit would fly. The review was sort of lame ( little info) but did tell a story. This is the first I have head about passing a 15,000 round test. I am not saying it will but from the reactions and past information on this gun in this forum, I might question that but maybe they did fix the metallurgy issues....

I will go read the RAS review and see what they have to say there..



Still good review and I thank you for posting it, now duck and run....it can get kinda messy in here if you say something positive about this rifle..


Cheers!
__________________
"Damn Boats, they keep sinking no matter what lake I am in, I lose more guns that way, you think I would learn!"
edsinger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2017, 07:29 PM   #20
dsmtsi23
Member
 
AKaholic #: 158079
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Bellingham, Washington
Posts: 36
Default

Ill Stick with my Russian Saiga and Veprs. Thank you
dsmtsi23 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2017, 07:31 PM   #21
Rob Ski
Curio & Relic
 
AKaholic #: 173263
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: USA
Posts: 2,856
Default

Yes, all are nice: IO, RAs47 and C39V2. Buy, buy, buy...hahaha!
__________________
-Rob Ski
AKOUL 47-74
Rob Ski is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2017, 07:34 PM   #22
edsinger
Member
 
edsinger's Avatar
 
AKaholic #: 192057
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Indiana
Posts: 260
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob Ski View Post
Yes, all are nice: IO, RAs47 and C39V2. Buy, buy, buy...hahaha!
Really? If you are the Rob Ski, and I am not trying to be an ass, where are the results of that hardness test on the RAS that failed? Could you also compare it with the C39v2 you tested? And for giggles with the Arsenal?

I am an engineer and I need to see data...
__________________
"Damn Boats, they keep sinking no matter what lake I am in, I lose more guns that way, you think I would learn!"
edsinger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2017, 07:36 PM   #23
86250rrippin
Curio & Relic
Bronze Contributor
 
86250rrippin's Avatar
 
AKaholic #: 165448
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: EASTERN STANDARD TIME
Posts: 4,620
Default

grabbing the popcorn.................we have been breached ..lol
__________________
"Century rifles eat no go gauges for breakfast " Metatron
86250rrippin is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2017, 07:41 PM   #24
Giantspeed
Veteran Member
 
Giantspeed's Avatar
 
AKaholic #: 161920
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: FEMA region 3
Posts: 1,969
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by edsinger View Post
"The parts are made from high-quality steel and heat-treated, and Century claims they have passed a 15,000-round endurance test."

"Once the dust had settled, there was not even one student who chose the MAK90; the consensus was that the C39V2 won hands down. "

I saw this post and read the review, and I KNEW shit would fly. The review was sort of lame ( little info) but did tell a story. This is the first I have head about passing a 15,000 round test. I am not saying it will but from the reactions and past information on this gun in this forum, I might question that but maybe they did fix the metallurgy issues....

I will go read the RAS review and see what they have to say there..



Still good review and I thank you for posting it, now duck and run....it can get kinda messy in here if you say something positive about this rifle..


Cheers!
Says the guy who started a praise thread
I'm sorry fng that rifle is junk
Had a friend that bought one after I advised him to stay away and his carrier cracked in half after 400 rounds
Deformed locking lugs and bolt not thank you
I ran a no go gauge when he brought it to me and it failed after 400 rounds
Your thread was full of brothers giving you advice
Please heed them
__________________
“Whoever said the pen is mightier than the sword
obviously never encountered automatic weapons.”
General Douglas MacArthur

I'm willing to die defending my 2nd amendment rights
Are you willing to die trying to take them from me


Originally Posted by Mandaree36
My brothers built that rifle.......it is priceless to me.
Giantspeed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2017, 07:44 PM   #25
Browning Hi Power
Member
 
Browning Hi Power's Avatar
 
AKaholic #: 191931
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: USA
Posts: 411
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by edsinger View Post
Really? If you are the Rob Ski, and I am not trying to be an ass, where are the results of that hardness test on the RAS that failed? Could you also compare it with the C39v2 you tested? And for giggles with the Arsenal?

I am an engineer and I need to see data...
Dude... the headspace on the test rifle was unsafe and he has a video of it. Look up Mel64d on YouTube and look at his hardness tests.

You know what just knock yourself out. Buy a RAS and put as many rounds as you possibly can through it. Are you already married? I hope so because women aren't fans of men that are missing a face.

Make sure you don't spend money wisely on a good and safe AK. Instead, go with your gut feeling and spend money on a piece of crap because you're just too cool and smart to listen to us.
Browning Hi Power is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2017, 07:45 PM   #26
Rob Ski
Curio & Relic
 
AKaholic #: 173263
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: USA
Posts: 2,856
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by edsinger View Post
Really? If you are the Rob Ski, and I am not trying to be an ass, where are the results of that hardness test on the RAS that failed? Could you also compare it with the C39v2 you tested? And for giggles with the Arsenal?

I am an engineer and I need to see data...
Buy it, run it and test it for yourself - you are "engineer" who "needs to see data".
Also, as educated person, you should know by now how to use google...if not, maybe Mel will entertain you with link to his video...
__________________
-Rob Ski
AKOUL 47-74
Rob Ski is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2017, 07:57 PM   #27
edsinger
Member
 
edsinger's Avatar
 
AKaholic #: 192057
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Indiana
Posts: 260
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Giantspeed View Post
Says the guy who started a praise thread
I'm sorry fng that rifle is junk Had a friend that bought one after I advised him to stay away and his carrier cracked in half after 400 rounds
Deformed locking lugs and bolt not thank you I ran a no go gauge when he brought it to me and it failed after 400 rounds Your thread was full of brothers giving you advice Please heed them
I am going to heed them and watch as I can. I am not saying it will not have issues, never said that.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob Ski View Post
Buy it, run it and test it for yourself - you are "engineer" who "needs to see data". Also, as educated person, you should know by now how to use google...if not, maybe Mel will entertain you with link to his video...
I have said I will and I will get what data I can and accordingly post it. You said in your vid you were sending it off so I wondered where the results were.

As far as googlefoo, yes but I have been watching videos including yours learning what I will need to look for.



Quote:
Originally Posted by Browning Hi Power View Post
Dude... the headspace on the test rifle was unsafe and he has a video of it. Look up Mel64d on YouTube and look at his hardness tests.
That is what I needed...heading right there next...thank you. I don't know names of some of the folks and to be quite frank, I have tried to absorb too much the last 2 weeks.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Browning Hi Power View Post
You know what just knock yourself out. Buy a RAS and put as many rounds as you possibly can through it. Are you already married? I hope so because women aren't fans of men that are missing a face.
Really? I guess you hadn't read my thread. I do not want a RAS , I bought a c39v2. The RAS I held looked good and symmetrical but was too small for me or something. Did not like it. However what I am reading is the RAS and c39 share parts and that could be an issue.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Browning Hi Power View Post
Make sure you don't spend money wisely on a good and safe AK. Instead, go with your gut feeling and spend money on a piece of crap because you're just too cool and smart to listen to us.
Hey did you read? I had already bought it but true enough I had read lots of info good and bad (here mainly bad) but others not so much and not one person has come on here and commented about the MAC video, or at least I have not found it.

So assuming it is a bad batch, which is feasible at this point, then #1 we need to determine or at least get Century to release the information, and #2 we also need to determine if the new batches are also bad...



Off to video...thanks for the link


Quote:
Mel64d on YouTube and look at his hardness tests
__________________
"Damn Boats, they keep sinking no matter what lake I am in, I lose more guns that way, you think I would learn!"

Last edited by edsinger; 03-20-2017 at 08:38 PM.
edsinger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2017, 08:00 PM   #28
Sirex
Goldmember
 
Sirex's Avatar
 
AKaholic #: 181199
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Maryland
Posts: 1,111
Default

I was going to get rid of my Veprs for the C39s because the Veprs are so darn heavy. Why do the vRussians need twice as much steel to build an AK???? (sarcasm)
__________________
A student said to the master in the garden, "You teach me fighting, but talk about peace. How do you reconcile the two?"

The master replied, "It is better to be a warrior in a garden, than a gardener in a war."
Sirex is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2017, 08:09 PM   #29
Giantspeed
Veteran Member
 
Giantspeed's Avatar
 
AKaholic #: 161920
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: FEMA region 3
Posts: 1,969
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob Ski View Post
Buy it, run it and test it for yourself - you are "engineer" who "needs to see data".
Also, as educated person, you should know by now how to use google...if not, maybe Mel will entertain you with link to his video...
Thank you rob for chiming in

And thank you for all that you do
I belong to the union 47-74
__________________
“Whoever said the pen is mightier than the sword
obviously never encountered automatic weapons.”
General Douglas MacArthur

I'm willing to die defending my 2nd amendment rights
Are you willing to die trying to take them from me


Originally Posted by Mandaree36
My brothers built that rifle.......it is priceless to me.
Giantspeed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2017, 08:15 PM   #30
Salmonrebel
Member
 
AKaholic #: 180166
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Somewhere in the PA woods
Posts: 65
Default

Anyone that would buy one of those over a MAK, WASR, Arsenal or Vepr after looking at all the knowledgeable info here. Especially, Rob's videos/torture tests. Would have to be a total dumb fuck! And yes, as it's been told. The tests have been done. Not hard to find on YouTube with a little search.
__________________
"A government big enough to give you everything you want. Is one that can take away everything you have!" Thomas Jefferson. ..."When a government tells you, that you don't need a gun. ...You NEED a gun!" Wise old American indian.
Salmonrebel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2017, 08:33 PM   #31
Aceshigh
Pimp McTastic
 
Aceshigh's Avatar
 
AKaholic #: 5008
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: SCIF
Posts: 9,441
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Martensite View Post
Comments?
This review proves nothing except what we already know. (or should know)
I'll break it all down into simple comparisons.

#1. American made VS Chinese - In 99.9% of products made.....no one is going to choose Chinese over American.

#2. Stocks = 30 year old awkward thumbhole Chinese VS Modern Magpul pistol grip and stock = Duh.......

#3. Mag Release = Basic release VS Giant paddle mag release = DUH

#4. Finish = Basic finish on 30 year old rifle VS nice Nitrided fancy clean finish on NEW rifle. = Derp

#5. Receiver type =
Stamped VS Milled - In most cases people will be TOLD milled is superior and more robust, because it is.

#6. Weight = Chinese stamped VS Domestic milled - This is the only area the MAK90 will win to the uninformed

So all this review proved is what SHOULD be obvious to people with basic analyzing skills.
The end game here is not a single one of these rifles was tested to failure to prove it's value over the other.
It was simply "Touchy feely" comparisons with a basic few rounds fired to keep the comparison simple.

In the end, the blog site GunsAmerica proved nothing......except the uninformed American consumer market will ALWAYS choose modernized and shiney. Especially when told blindly that the rifles have passed a 15,000 round test, but no one outside of Century can verify that HUGE claim.
__________________


AK Files custom search
Aceshigh is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2017, 08:41 PM   #32
edsinger
Member
 
edsinger's Avatar
 
AKaholic #: 192057
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Indiana
Posts: 260
Default

Linky :

Testing Rob Ski's RAS47 - Hardness Test

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bSiyfENeiQ


27.5
37
36
28.16
28.16
28.83
3
45
22.33


Excellent video and very informative, dude knows his shit. I do not necessarily know what the numbers above mean without a good reference so I will watch a few more but this is the kind of stuff I was looking for. It would be nice if it was tracked via excel or something to do a direct comparison. I mean if a Aresnal bolt is 45 and a Century a 32, then that does not bode well. However as he said you need to have the right hardness for the right job and I agree. I hear about these things on a different scale but I will be honest it is over my head and I have enough in my areas of responsibly to keep track of but I always want to learn new things.

Thank you for the lead on this, exactly what I was trying to come up with. Now I just have to learn what it means. I know that when making artillery shells in a previous job, that the casings could be aluminium, brass, or steel. In the case of the last one I was involved in it was a big fucker, to be deployed on the DDX, DD21, or Zumwalt. It had to be steel tight and in spec to handle the pressures of 155mm, I just cant remember the numbers as it was 10 years ago.

It was tough to do but it was done, amazing process by the way.

Again thanks for what you do Mel (now subscribed)..I have lots more to watch..
__________________
"Damn Boats, they keep sinking no matter what lake I am in, I lose more guns that way, you think I would learn!"
edsinger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2017, 08:42 PM   #33
RUSSIAN AK FAN
Senior Member
 
AKaholic #: 176305
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: South
Posts: 866
Default

American built trumps Chinese built every time.......




.......Except when it comes to AKs!
RUSSIAN AK FAN is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2017, 08:45 PM   #34
edsinger
Member
 
edsinger's Avatar
 
AKaholic #: 192057
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Indiana
Posts: 260
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aceshigh View Post
In the end, the blog site GunsAmerica proved nothing......except the uninformed American consumer market will ALWAYS choose modernized and shiney. Especially when told blindly that the rifles have passed a 15,000 round test, but no one outside of Century can verify that HUGE claim.
Yeah first I heard that and before this journey of mine I would not have known what is expected and good. Being that the RAS failed after 5k and the Aresenal went to 10k, just where did this 15k figure come from? Where is that data. You would think that if they did that test, they would be publicizing the shit out of it.

15k doesn't pass even my smell test.
__________________
"Damn Boats, they keep sinking no matter what lake I am in, I lose more guns that way, you think I would learn!"
edsinger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2017, 08:50 PM   #35
edsinger
Member
 
edsinger's Avatar
 
AKaholic #: 192057
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Indiana
Posts: 260
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RUSSIAN AK FAN View Post
American built trumps Chinese built every time.......
.......Except when it comes to AKs!


How about my Polish Mosin Carbine vs a Russian one? I always wondered but the one I have is just gorgeous, had 10 rounds through her when I got her, put another 50 and safe queen she went. The Russian ones I saw were beat to shit.I paid the guy more than he asked when I saw that gun...I was thankful.

One on the bottom...

__________________
"Damn Boats, they keep sinking no matter what lake I am in, I lose more guns that way, you think I would learn!"
edsinger is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:12 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
©2015 The AK FIles