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Old 03-20-2017, 12:01 AM   #1
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Default Fiberglass Norinco SKS....

Saw one today at a show, it was an unfired factory 416 norinco sks that was in a beautiful red fiberglass stock...He wanted $550 and I passed...Mistake or no? I honestly have never even seen one before or knew that existed until I saw this one. Are these "rare"...Don't know much about SKSs tbh.. What's the value on these? More I think about it the more I wish I got it....
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Old 03-20-2017, 03:48 AM   #2
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550 is stupid high. Nothing super rare.
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Old 03-20-2017, 07:53 AM   #3
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Should have traded him a Hi Point C-9 combat special edition with the added weight in the slide.
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Old 03-20-2017, 12:03 PM   #4
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A wise decision to pass at that price.

Was it Public Security rifle? Identifiable by the "gong anh" symbol (公安) on the right side of the receiver. /416\ is one of the factories which manufactured the Public Security carbines.

Either way, $550 would be on the high end for an as-issued Public Security carbine. An original Public Security rifle would have a stamped, matching wood stock with a side mounted rear sling swivel.

The fiberglass "jungle" stock -- is a replacement-- many believe the fiberglass stock was a largely introduced as a commercial option.

$425-$500 (dep. on condition) is within reason for a Public Security rifle in original configuration. With fiberglass replacement stock~ $375-425

Standard /416\ Type56 in original configuration- $350-400 (dep. on condtion).

/416\ Type56 in a fiber glass stock also $350-400 (dep. on condition). The fiberglass stock is very desisreable to some collectors and abhorrent to others
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Old 03-20-2017, 01:03 PM   #5
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I think Boris may be right about it being commercial; fwiw of the 3-4 non import marked guns (suspected bring back or otherwise) I've come across in person, I've never seen one that had the jungle stock. Don't recall seeing any on the net either.

Most of those fiberglass stocks I see are split anyway. They are still reasonably available too, last time I was at Sarco they had several, though I think all had splits.
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Old 03-20-2017, 01:23 PM   #6
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I was at Sarco in Easton in December-- all they had were type 56 wood stocks cut for spike bayonets.

Their showroom supply of sks parts has slowly dwindled. I wish I'd gotten some sears when they still had them.

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A wise decision to pass at that price.

Was it Public Security rifle? Identifiable by the "gong anh" symbol (公安) on the right side of the receiver. /416\ is one of the factories which manufactured the Public Security carbines.

Either way, $550 would be on the high end for an as-issued Public Security carbine. An original Public Security rifle would have a stamped, matching wood stock with a side mounted rear sling swivel.

The fiberglass "jungle" stock -- is a replacement-- many believe the fiberglass stock was a largely introduced as a commercial option.

$425-$500 (dep. on condition) is within reason for a Public Security rifle in original configuration. With fiberglass replacement stock~ $375-425

Standard /416\ Type56 in original configuration- $350-400 (dep. on condtion).

/416\ Type56 in a fiber glass stock also $350-400 (dep. on condition). The fiberglass stock is very desisreable to some collectors and abhorrent to others
Thanks a lot for the info man. Yeah I did see that symbol on the side of it. Guess I'm glad I passed for the price.
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Those red plastic/fiberglass stocks have been available on and off over the years. I recall seeing them for sale as cheap as $10. I have one stored away in the event I ever come across a Norinco SKS that needs a stock. They are interesting looking, but likely not original.
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Those red plastic/fiberglass stocks have been available on and off over the years. I recall seeing them for sale as cheap as $10. I have one stored away in the event I ever come across a Norinco SKS that needs a stock. They are interesting looking, but likely not original.
Yep, I have one stashed with a blade bayo in case I ever find a bubba-ed SKS that needs some restoration. IIRC, they never really got used for VietNam because they started sending AKs, and then Tet screwed the NVA and VC, so NVN did most of it's fighting in Paris junkets while the fiberglass stocks sat unused in storage.
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Old 03-21-2017, 05:52 PM   #10
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Bear in mind there are at least two different types of plastic chinese stocks, the original ones, and then the commercial knock offs which aren't made as well.

I have both.
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Those red plastic/fiberglass stocks have been available on and off over the years. I recall seeing them for sale as cheap as $10. I have one stored away in the event I ever come across a Norinco SKS that needs a stock. They are interesting looking, but likely not original.
Oh wow $10? Dang. Yeah I won't lie I was super attracted to its looks. The green China Sling just really completed the whole package but after reading here it was definitely overpriced for what it was. Thanks.
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Yep, I have one stashed with a blade bayo in case I ever find a bubba-ed SKS that needs some restoration. IIRC, they never really got used for VietNam because they started sending AKs, and then Tet screwed the NVA and VC, so NVN did most of it's fighting in Paris junkets while the fiberglass stocks sat unused in storage.
Interesting.
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Old 03-23-2017, 10:04 AM   #13
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try gunbroker for a so called jungle stock, sometimes they are reasonable and sometimes people want way too much.

I had a whole pile of them and sold them all when I was having a cleansing phase when hopping into the house market. tripled my money on each one but I do wish I would have saved at least one. Oh well its still just a material item.

With that said I did snag a mint condition jungle stock and matching handguard for the blade bayonet sks, those stocks are much harder to find and basicly got it free after flipping some other items I had gotten with it. In time it will be going on a Chinese ''ghost'' sks.
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Old 03-23-2017, 10:05 AM   #14
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Bear in mind there are at least two different types of plastic chinese stocks, the original ones, and then the commercial knock offs which aren't made as well.

I have both.
Hmm ok, yeah I wouldn't be able to tell one from a fake due to my lack of experience, but if I were to guess I'd say the one on that rifle was real.
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Oh wow $10? Dang. Yeah I won't lie I was super attracted to its looks. The green China Sling just really completed the whole package but after reading here it was definitely overpriced for what it was. Thanks.
There are several types of plastic stocks, some nicer than others. Wolfsburg Bob had some nice slim smooth ones for sale back in the day.
IIRC, I gave $70 for one of those... and it didn't have the annoying black split down the middle.

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Bought two many years ago for $5/each. Nice on "bang-a-round" guns or will be outside a lot. Both look like the one at the bottom (of the pic in post above).
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Very cool.
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Old 04-01-2017, 09:52 PM   #18
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A wise decision to pass at that price.

Was it Public Security rifle? Identifiable by the "gong anh" symbol (公安) on the right side of the receiver. /416\ is one of the factories which manufactured the Public Security carbines.

Either way, $550 would be on the high end for an as-issued Public Security carbine. An original Public Security rifle would have a stamped, matching wood stock with a side mounted rear sling swivel.

The fiberglass "jungle" stock -- is a replacement-- many believe the fiberglass stock was a largely introduced as a commercial option.

$425-$500 (dep. on condition) is within reason for a Public Security rifle in original configuration. With fiberglass replacement stock~ $375-425

Standard /416\ Type56 in original configuration- $350-400 (dep. on condtion).

/416\ Type56 in a fiber glass stock also $350-400 (dep. on condition). The fiberglass stock is very desisreable to some collectors and abhorrent to others
The Fiberglass stock was a Vietnam war innovation because of how the jungles of vietnam caused the wood stocks to rot.
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Try SKSman.com for a plastic stock.
There are 3 variations of that stock. The one that is not pictured above, is the one where the sling swivel is on the left side of the buttstock......
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Wow, these used to be all over the place; $12 was the lowest I ever saw. Can't find any good source to even price them.
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Old 04-03-2017, 12:55 AM   #21
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The Fiberglass stock was a Vietnam war innovation because of how the jungles of vietnam caused the wood stocks to rot.
You hear this often. But to date there are Zero documented bringbacks or anecdotal testimony (from Vietnam Vets) to corroborate that the fiberglass stocks were ever used during the war in Vietnam.
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Rick Reich Outfitters is a one man show. Best to email him but he has the phenolic jungle stocks at $17-$25 shipped.

About 80% down the page under "stocks"

http://www.gunboards.com/sites/reichoutfitters/
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Rick Reich Outfitters is a one man show. Best to email him but he has the phenolic jungle stocks at $17-$25 shipped.

About 80% down the page under "stocks"

http://www.gunboards.com/sites/reichoutfitters/
+1 on the email. His site is the very current. So email him to make sure that he still has it!!!
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