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Old 06-16-2017, 11:00 PM   #71
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Not when it is used as a possesive noun. Yeah im done trying to teach you. Go learn on your own. You are obviously such an intelligent one.
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Old 06-17-2017, 05:50 AM   #72
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Old 06-17-2017, 09:57 AM   #73
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CDL/trucking is a dying industry that is currently in a race to the bottom.

It will be automated in the future, and the pay grade will go from "driver" to "vehicle attendant".

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Old 06-18-2017, 10:54 AM   #74
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You might try to go to law school at night or go federal law enforcement.
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I'd really like some opinions on selecting another line of work.

I'm in my mid 30s and have been in law enforcement for 12 years. The field is absurd, I am long tired of it and am very libertarian compared to others I work with. I am the type of guy you would want to do the work, but I have simply had enough of the job. It is a shit sandwhich.

I have a bachelors but it is pretty useless as it is a criminal justice degree. I would really like to be a professional pilot but I am still working on my private pilots license and have a good ways to go before I could fly professionally in any capacity. I feel like I need something else in the meantime. I'm willing to do jobs others aren't. I dont mind travel, I dont need glamorous work, I am not bothered by working strange hours. I can work very independently and do not mind isolation. I do not mind dangerous jobs. I have considered off shore oil rigs or even getting my cdl and driving a truck. I'm not set on either one of those though and would really appreciate any opinions on the matter.
Move to West Texas.

Or somewhere in the West, not all the way to the coast.

There is NO FUTURE in driving a truck cause no fooling, that job will be one of the first automotive jobs to be taken over by robots.

They have been able to run trucks with robots and gps for a while now, it is coming to the highways way soon.
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Old 06-19-2017, 01:17 PM   #76
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LEOs in Calif make at least $150k/year. I don't know why you would abandon 12 years of experience. You just need to work at a different city.
How's Beverly Hills sound?

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Old 06-19-2017, 02:39 PM   #77
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Become a sheriff, then you can be very libertarian.
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Old 06-19-2017, 03:19 PM   #78
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How's Beverly Hills sound?

Despite what the movie shows, there are no strip clubs in Beverly Hills. Plus NONE of the cops that work there can afford to live in the city limits. Though it is a plum job for those who can get it as crime is WAY lower with far less scum bags to deal with then the rest of the greater Los Angeles area.
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Old 06-19-2017, 03:29 PM   #79
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CDL/trucking is a dying industry that is currently in a race to the bottom.

It will be automated in the future, and the pay grade will go from "driver" to "vehicle attendant".

https://www.usatoday.com/pages/inter...-with-nothing/
Yep. And teaching is not far behind. You will be programmer, or associate-degree aide.
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I was a truck driver for a bit and it pretty much sucks ass until you get 2-3 years in. Then apply for some oil company, Walmart or UPS as those are the best jobs. The turnover is so high because you get treated like absolute shit even if you hustle. If you suck it up for a few years then you can make some decent money but you won't have much of a life. It is one of those jobs that people only do in the meantime until they get something better. It takes a different kind of person to make it a career or maybe just luck and get a good gig for awhile.

I was a substitute teacher as well for a year and I mainly had to work at the ghetto schools due to all the better schools having the same subs routinely. Basically, you baby sit the whole day and make $60 if you're lucky. The SUPER ghetto schools for all the criminals who aren't accepted to regular public schools will pay more, near $100 per day but use your imagination as to what that day will be like and you'll probably be pretty close. Public schools just blow these days and there is no point trying to "make a difference" there.

If you are very serious about a career change, then find an apprenticeship some where in a trade you like or go back to school for a different degree. Since you have a degree already, you have at least done your initial two years of bullshit courses. Realistically, a second degree in a different field would only take 2 years with a summer or two. I recommend computer science, engineering, finance or accounting.
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Border Patrol guys seem to like their jobs, Hell, they ride horses, dirt bikes, quads, and live in low cost rural areas. They're hiring too.
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Old 06-19-2017, 05:28 PM   #82
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Border Patrol guys seem to like their jobs, Hell, they ride horses, dirt bikes, quads, and live in low cost rural areas. They're hiring too.
Yep. Just gotta learn some Espanol.
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Old 06-19-2017, 05:48 PM   #83
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Border Patrol guys seem to like their jobs, Hell, they ride horses, dirt bikes, quads, and live in low cost rural areas. They're hiring too.
Some live in low cost rural areas, others live in and around places like San Diego.

What could be more fun for a conservative minded LEO though, than keeping illegal immigrants out?

The JBT backlash from locals along the border, is trying, I imagine though.
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Old 06-19-2017, 11:38 PM   #84
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OP, take a look at the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center - FLETC. The vast majority that I have worked with are prior gun-carrying LEOs, and love training new generations of cops.

Here's a totally separate idea: look at being private security for international shipping. Massive commercial vessels (tankers, container carriers, bulk cargo, etc.) frequently have "rented" private, armed security guards when they transit waters known for piracy. You will see the world, meet interesting people, go to some dangerous locations, and take in some pretty serious cash.
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Old 06-19-2017, 11:49 PM   #85
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Here's a totally separate idea: look at being private security for international shipping. Massive commercial vessels (tankers, container carriers, bulk cargo, etc.) frequently have "rented" private, armed security guards when they transit waters known for piracy. You will see the world, meet interesting people, go to some dangerous locations, and take in some pretty serious cash.
Very good suggestion if you are single and have no family.

They do make $$$$.
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OP, take a look at the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center - FLETC. The vast majority that I have worked with are prior gun-carrying LEOs, and love training new generations of cops.

Here's a totally separate idea: look at being private security for international shipping. Massive commercial vessels (tankers, container carriers, bulk cargo, etc.) frequently have "rented" private, armed security guards when they transit waters known for piracy. You will see the world, meet interesting people, go to some dangerous locations, and take in some pretty serious cash.
That sounds like a GREAT job! Seriously.

Plus if things go south there is the potential to have a movie made about you. "joke"
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Old 06-20-2017, 01:50 AM   #87
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How do you feel about technology? IT security is blowing up, and there can be a crossover from law enforcement. I've met several folks that transitioned from law enforcement. In the financial sector they have absolutely enormous teams doing this. And keeping good people can be hard as competition is strong. Another IT facet is DevOps engineering. It's an outgrowth of several disciplines, and another place where one can get their foot in the door quickly. Get some AWS certifications and you'll have recruiters beating down your door.

And on the pilot thing. I'm also a private pilot with limited color blindness. I've been told that SODA letters are no good for the professional side. Liability reasons. There was an incident many years ago involving a black hole approach and one of the pilots had a SODA for color blindness. It was never proven to be a factor, but the speculation lead to a change in view from a liability perspective.
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Another field to look at is insurance fraud investigations. People are always trying to scam insurance companies from all sorts of angles. I know a retired LEO that works at one of the Blues as an investigator. He spends part of his time in his office and the other part out in the field doing investigations. Pay is very good and the hours aren't too crazy.
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LEOs in Calif make at least $150k/year. I don't know why you would abandon 12 years of experience. You just need to work at a different city.
Starting salary for most LEOs in CA is between $55k-$65k, even in the biggest cities.

OP, I don't blame you for wanting to get out of law enforcement. Must be a terrible time to be a cop with so much unwarranted hatred of the profession from the inner city and SJW cry babies.

It's still in law enforcement but have you thought about looking at being a welfare fraud investigator? You're still an officer, carry a weapon but typically wear street clothes. I work in social services and that's the side I've always wanted to be on. It's not a huge field with lots of openings but if you're willing to relocate, every county has welfare fraud investigators.
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If you want to:
A. Make good to great money
B. Have a no stress profession (no such thing but you get my point)
C. Love the outdoors
D. Be your own boss

The answer is easy. Buy a truck, a good trailer, a zero turn and weed wackers and such and start your own lawn care business. I personally know three different folks that did this after getting out of the Army in their 30's and by year three or four were making over 100k a year. One of the guys just topped 1M gross in 7 years. No employees, but long days in the sun. They are all in Texas and Louisiana where lawn care is year round.
Once you get a dozen or so regular clients both residential and commercial you will be set.
Another fella retired from the Army and started a fencing company with a buddy called, you guessed it "two buddies" and has work coming out of his eyeballs. Every time he build a regular picket fence the neighbors come over and ask him to build their fence. Not sure what he makes but he is home every night and is his own boss.
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OP,

If you want to:
A. Make good to great money
B. Have a no stress profession (no such thing but you get my point)
C. Love the outdoors
D. Be your own boss

The answer is easy. Buy a truck, a good trailer, a zero turn and weed wackers and such and start your own lawn care business. I personally know three different folks that did this after getting out of the Army in their 30's and by year three or four were making over 100k a year. One of the guys just topped 1M gross in 7 years. No employees, but long days in the sun. They are all in Texas and Louisiana where lawn care is year round.
Once you get a dozen or so regular clients both residential and commercial you will be set.
Another fella retired from the Army and started a fencing company with a buddy called, you guessed it "two buddies" and has work coming out of his eyeballs. Every time he build a regular picket fence the neighbors come over and ask him to build their fence. Not sure what he makes but he is home every night and is his own boss.
That isn't a bad idea. I've also heard of some people around here doing that and they make pretty good money. Add a chainsaw and do tree service as well. Once you get established, you could even get other people to do it for you if you pay a decent wage and still make a good profit. Landscaping is pretty saturated down here though.
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Working for the railroad isn't a bad gig, although it isn't what it used to be. At our location we pretty much work all the overtime we want and sometimes don't want. Stay out of management there. Are several unions, some are weak, some are strong.
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Working for the railroad isn't a bad gig, although it isn't what it used to be. At our location we pretty much work all the overtime we want and sometimes don't want. Stay out of management there. Are several unions, some are weak, some are strong.
Railroad is an excellent employer, UP in particular but not exactly easy to get into. If you can get in, you're lucky.
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Railroad is an excellent employer, UP in particular but not exactly easy to get into. If you can get in, you're lucky.
Yep. My uncle works in the yard and is like the #5 guy in the union. It took him a year and a half to get a job for his son. They post openings at like 2AM and people stay up to get apps out immediately.

Great job if you can get in, and they don't close the position before you climb the union high enough to get job protection.
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That isn't a bad idea. I've also heard of some people around here doing that and they make pretty good money. Add a chainsaw and do tree service as well. Once you get established, you could even get other people to do it for you if you pay a decent wage and still make a good profit. Landscaping is pretty saturated down here though.
I have a friend who is selling his business lol.
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