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Old 01-21-2017, 05:49 PM   #1
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Default Beretta 92S from SOG

I ended up with this pistol even though I didn't really want one. Don't get me wrong; I'm a huge Beretta fan. I bought a circa 1989 92F back in the early 90's. It's my No.1 home defense pistol and I always keep it handy. But I don't think the 92 will ever be considered collectible so I had no real interest in buying another one...especially an older model. However, a buddy of mine was really interested in getting a 92 simply for range use and didn't want to spend a bunch of money on a plinker. He was looking at the 92S but was worried about what he would get being that these are Italian government trade-ins. He had also never used SOG before. My only experience with them was a Walther P5 police trade-in I had bought years ago so I told him about my experience. I had opted for the hand select option and had received what was essentially a new in the box pistol. To ease his fears, I told him to buy the "Excellent" grade for $309 and pay the extra $10 for hand pick. If he wasn't satisfied with what he got, I would buy it from him so he would be out nothing. To that end, I went with him to the shop the day he picked it up just in case it would be me filling out the transfer forms instead of him. Well, I'm now $363 poorer and have a redundant pistol! He ended up buying an almost new in the box 92F for $500 he found the same day. That's the way it goes sometimes. So.....let's look at what you get for $353 plus $10 transfer fee. The magazine was, of course, picked up outside of this wonderful socialist republik.

Here is the 1970's 92S compared to a 1989 92F:





What killed the deal for my buddy was the gawd awful chew marks on the slide serrations. Let's look at those before going any further:





Were it not for these marks, (and let's be clear, they are ATROCIOUS) I would agree that the pistol is in "excellent" condition. The number match, wear is minimal given its age, and it has an acceptable bore. I've been at this for many years and my expectations are reasonable. I can live with patina. I even LIKE patina. What I cannot stand is abuse and this thing was clearly abused at some point. These marks alone drop it to "fair" condition in my book and they certainly exclude it from a "hand pick". My friend said the he will never, ever buy from SOG again and I can't say I blame him. If this happened to me the first time I bought from a company, I would probably never deal with them again either. So, were it not for these marks, I would be very pleased with what was shipped. As it is, it's just plain UGLY. I'm sure it will shoot just fine (I'll find out soon enough) but chewed up steel is all I see when I look at it. I will think long and hard before I order from SOG in the future. Alright, moving on.


Front of slide and dust cover. Only edge wear:




Front strap and trigger guard. Light freckling in the anodizing and edge wear:




Wear on lanyard ring. Looks fine:




Back strap and beaver tail. Some hammering on the edge of the beaver tail but I've seen many that had zero finish left here so this is actually pretty good:




Top looks great:




Very nice satin blue on the slide and crisp roll marks. Marred by the importer stamp but that's life:






Internally, very nice:













As stated earlier, the barrel matches the frame. The slides were not numbered on these pistols. I've seen some that have had the barrels replaced or the number was mismatched. The vast majority I've seen also have another number added to the barrel along the side by either the exported or importer I think. This one does not have any of that stuff going on which is nice.


Chamber looks good. I worry that those chew marks on the slide are from a vice and that the pistol locked closed at some point but I don't see any burrs in the chamber. What you do see in there is just dust I think. I have only semi-cleaned the barrel. We will see....




Crown looks good:




And there is a little frost in the bore but I imagine accuracy will be far better than my shaky hands can get out of it:




So.....IMO, what would otherwise most likely be a 90% pistol has been reduced to an eyesore by abuse sometime in it's past. I've seen these looking 99% to new. All things considered, I would rate this as fair. Shame on you Southern Ohio Guns. True, my buddy could have sent it back but he would still be out $50. I could have eaten the $50 too I guess but, as a shooter, I'm guess it's worth the $350. The trigger isn't as good as my 92F and the safety is much stiffer but it appears to be (and I' sure it is) just as well made. Consider it a slightly less "refined" model in the 92 series. In the end, that's exactly what it is. But when it was new in the 70's, it was top notch equipment. It would be so pretty if only.......I'll sell it off in the future for what I have in it. C'est la vie.
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Old 01-21-2017, 05:54 PM   #2
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Are they afraid of their police revolting that much they have to put the mag release over there?
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Meh...my time in the Corps ensured I would never own a 92 even it it was given to me.
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Are they afraid of their police revolting that much they have to put the mag release over there?
That is the traditional location for the mag release on European pistols.
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Well at least you didn't get shafted out of a "Hand Picked" extra fee....
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Old 01-21-2017, 06:28 PM   #6
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Yes, I did!
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I bought one of their excellent hand picked ones.

Overall, it was in great shape.

Has a new barrel.
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nice review sir. Too bad about import marks.
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The one I had from Classic was in better shape

I ended up giving it away as not many of the 92 mags are dual cut and it was a pain to hunt down yet another set of mags .... Esp as only cdnn seem to have anything over 15 rounds for them ...Unless you cut your own

To me unless it was cheep like 250 cheep it dont do much for me ..I have used org 92 pistols that was cool but these are just on the road to the 92fs and dont offer enough to justify it

And yeah I think they are getting roughing as time goes on

Proble some ITaly cop feel on hard one day
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Yes, I did!

Damn son you really got boned then...The hand picker must have been fucking blind as a bat.
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If I was guaranteed one like that for $360 I would order. Definitely a great looking pistol and I would like to have one just to take up some room in my safe
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Meh, its a sidearm, not sculpture for your livingroom. It looks tip top, mechanically,and that is what counts, not to mention it has some history with it.
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IMO.....92Fs should run about $350 new. Rather have an old Ruger P89DC matter of fact.
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Not a bad looking gun. I would consider one as a plinker for sure. I'd get a Wolff spring kit and you'll be set. I rehab any surplus gun I get because 30 years is too old for a spring
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IMO.....92Fs should run about $350 new. Rather have an old Ruger P89DC matter of fact.
That's like saying you rather pop The McDonald's parking lot hooker than Kira Nightly... Just outright disgusting...
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That's like saying you rather pop The McDonald's parking lot hooker than Kira Nightly... Just outright disgusting...
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I'm seriously considering one of those 92S police turnins. While I would be disappointed in the condition of the OP's pistol after paying for hand pick, I assume these Berettas have been rode hard and put away wet. I would not expect a pristine example. As with any surplus firearm, it's a roll of the dice. I've received some very nice ones and some that weren't, specifically an FEG Hi Power knock off.

It's a truck/night stand/throw down pistol not a BBQ gun.
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I assume these Berettas have been rode hard and put away wet.
Police trade-ins ( as a general rule ) are not "rode hard & put up wet".

They tend to look like hammered dogshit due to being carried / holstered / unholstered for years, but tend to only see use during annual qualification.

European police trade-ins tend to skew this way, as Euro cops don't use their pistols much in the line of duty ( they carry & use SMGs )



These pistols are nearing the end of their "golden age"* here in the USA, so the "dogs" are likely becoming more prevalent in the stock room.


* Period of time when the items numbers are greatest and they are selling at their lowest price point. See "Where'd all the nagant revolvers go?" for more of an explanation
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The magazine release being at bottom of the grip is the deal breaker for me. I like Berettas quite a bit, but these are ones I'll pass on. For sub $300 it's no doubt a stellar deal.

I know there's two places that have them for sale. Personally I'd grab mine from SOG.
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Picked one up from a Files member here on MP, $325 shipped. Clean, number matching with holster wear on some high spots. Light pitting here and there but otherwise no rust. Haven't shot it yet but clean and bright barrel with sharp rifling and no wear on the feed ramp. If it shoots well I'll pick up a few more, one for the truck, the boat, the front door, the back door, the garage, the hangar etc.

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I've really been considering these, but not sure why I should get one instead of saving $150 more and getting a brand new 92FS.

Someone talk sense into me, don't need it, don't need a 92FS for that matter either.
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^^^ Buy one from SOG for $279 ^^^
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^^^ Buy one from SOG for $279 ^^^
Don't you have to he a dealer to purchase from sog?
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Don't you have to he a dealer to purchase from sog?
Any ffl can order it for you. If your ffl refuses find a new ffl to do business with
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I am not an FFL and have ordered from them several times. I do have a C&R on file with them but I have only ordered one C&R item from them and several regular guns. They ship those to my FFL instead.
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Money talks. Call'em up and order. Have your receiving FFL's info ready.

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i have one like it too, cant find a manufacture date on it, and yes i looked, there is no proof marks and the serial number does not come up in the beretta search. mine also has that crest and star mark on the barrel like the one pictured here yet i cant find a single bit of info on that mark either.
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1979-1982 take your pick
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