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Old 05-15-2018, 12:50 PM   #1
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Default German military surplus .308 at SGAmmo.com

I just bought 500 rounds of this.
20 round packages for $9.95 each.
While not a great bargain, it looks very interesting. Only down side for some folks is that it is berdan primed...
https://www.sgammo.com/product/308-w...-ammo-am2030-r
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Old 05-15-2018, 01:03 PM   #2
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I only buy rounds with brass suitable to reload...good luck with this stuff.
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Old 05-15-2018, 01:05 PM   #3
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I only buy rounds with brass suitable to reload...good luck with this stuff.
Not sure why this needs repeating, but there's a tool sold to reloaders the is designed to remove Berdan primers.


For $DEITY's sake, it's been being sold for decades, so am not sure why this "can't be reloaded" stuff keeps coming up . . .
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Not sure why this needs repeating, but there's a tool sold to reloaders the is designed to remove Berdan primers.


For $DEITY's sake, it's been being sold for decades, so am not sure why this "can't be reloaded" stuff keeps coming up . . .
Well Berdan primers come and go..."gone" right now, and some Berdan primers resist that tool like nobody's business. I have done Berdan since the 1970s but I understand those who don't. A lot of cooks don't make their own pasta.
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Old 05-15-2018, 02:45 PM   #5
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I had thought that the Russkies (through Wolf) were the only source for Berdan primers that were commercially available in the US. Not so?
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Old western Scrounger? had all kinds of oddball reloading stuff. Gov.t has a unlimited budget, can throw brass away. My M67 Yugo is brass, berdan. shoots great. German Military Surplus, probably very well made, the Germans are finicky that way.
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I had thought that the Russkies (through Wolf) were the only source for Berdan primers that were commercially available in the US. Not so?
Yep in the past. Came...and went!
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Old 05-15-2018, 07:39 PM   #8
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Not sure why this needs repeating, but there's a tool sold to reloaders the is designed to remove Berdan primers.


For $DEITY's sake, it's been being sold for decades, so am not sure why this "can't be reloaded" stuff keeps coming up . . .
Could be reloaded with Berdan primers, if you could buy them. None for sale in the U.S. at this point unless you are very lucky and find them on the secondary market.

Don't know why no one distributes them in the U.S. Could be that they are more complicated to size than Boxer primers, as there are more different sizes.

Could also be converted with much trouble to Boxer primers, several different makers of tools like this one, or if you are handy you can make your own:



All in all, as big a PIA as it is to load with them, its far easier to seek out Boxer primed brass if you plan to reload.

The only place where it is worthwhile, in this country, is in some obscure and/or obsolete cartridges that are not obtainable in Boxer configuration

Here is some general info on them. The supplier information is out of date.

http://www.dave-cushman.net/shot/ber...imensions.html

RAUG/GECO makes them and distributes them in Europe that will fit some cartridges:

http://www.ruag.co.uk/categories/28-primers-caps
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Good info, Thank you
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Not sure why this needs repeating, but there's a tool sold to reloaders the is designed to remove Berdan primers.


For $DEITY's sake, it's been being sold for decades, so am not sure why this "can't be reloaded" stuff keeps coming up . . .
There are enough steps in reloading to not add another. Plus I am not sure the brass is any good from what I have heard others who bought this stuff. Some of it was very tarnished/ corroded and that would involve another step to clean it, then tumble.

Are you getting it yet???
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Old 05-16-2018, 11:28 AM   #11
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I love this ammo. Nickel cupro projectile is supposedly pretty nasty. Some of the cartridges have some minor rust specs and you really need to read description on sgammo site, because it has been sanitized, but it shoots great out of my 16 inch 1:10 twist aero precision carbine barrels. I find it more accurate than federal m80 white box. Shoots consistent 2 moa average. This ammo has stayed the same price 449 per 1000 and not gone down at all in the last year and a half. I don't reload so I don't care about the berdan primers.
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There are enough steps in reloading to not add another. Plus I am not sure the brass is any good from what I have heard others who bought this stuff. Some of it was very tarnished/ corroded and that would involve another step to clean it, then tumble.

Are you getting it yet???
The time and money to reload Berdan makes some sense, no big deal....the time and money to recombubulate Berdan primer pockets to take boxer primers in .308 brass?

No sense at all!
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This is very good ammo.


I have fired a couple thousand rounds, both DAG and MEN headstamp, and still have probably 500 rounds in my stash.
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I have some of this ammo. It is pretty nice. It’s pretty accurate and the its suppose to leave a nasty wound channel.
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Old 05-20-2018, 11:47 AM   #15
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I have some of this ammo. It is pretty nice. Itís pretty accurate and the its suppose to leave a nasty wound channel.
Excellent! Sounds like top shelf stuff. Glad I bought some, and thanks for the extra info, guys!
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