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Old 03-27-2018, 12:43 AM   #1
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http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2...cturing-egypt/

Hoping the 807 will wind up in the USA at some point. I believe Pakistan is also using the 807.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2...facture-egypt/

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Old 03-27-2018, 12:47 AM   #2
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Hopefully this doesn't push back USA consumer availability passed the "2019" time frame that has kept popping up.

Also, hope CZ considers offering a .308 version as well sometime.
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Old 03-27-2018, 12:50 AM   #3
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CZ has been selling hand guns and the Skorpion to Egypt for a long time. I am not suprised.
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Old 03-27-2018, 12:55 AM   #4
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Hopefully this doesn't push back USA consumer availability passed the "2019" time frame that has kept popping up.

Also, hope CZ considers offering a .308 version as well sometime.
Yes I would like to see that also but don't hold your breath. I like CZ firearms, they always give FN a good run for the Money with the same or better quality.
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Old 03-27-2018, 01:02 AM   #5
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Yes I would like to see that also but don't hold your breath. I like CZ firearms, they always give FN a good run for the Money with the same or better quality.
No, no breath holding here. But a man can still wish, right?
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Old 03-27-2018, 01:19 AM   #6
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Oh yeah that means big delay for us. Pakistan at POF will be manufacturing their own CZ806s or 807s, I forget which, but the Czechs have already agreed to share the technology so Pakistan can make them under license. It’d be funny if Pakistan made civi semi autos for us before they could.
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Old 03-27-2018, 02:19 AM   #7
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Nothing wrong with wishing....i wished for an Izhmash AK107 or AK108 semi-auto for over a decade...*sigh*.
Then again, i also wanted an RPK74M and Beryl, and we nearly got exactly those with the VEPR 1V (and VEPR FM) and Archer, so can happen.

But it has been raining here all day so i am going to be a wet blanket....that 2019 timeframe for an 806 has never come directly from CZ-USA as far as I can recall. Remember before people were saying it would be shown at Shot 2018 and when that didn't happen, it just got turned into 2019.
The official word from CZ still seems to be that there are no plans at this time to bring in a semi 806/Bren II.

And this makes sense. First off, 805 sales have been pretty flat. This despite nearly all positive reviews and falling prices, still Americans aren't lining up to buy one. So from a business POV, there's not a ton of pressure on CZ-USA to push Czech CZ to get it an 806S1.
Second, according to the ATF/Customs, a semi-auto form/version of the 806 has not been submitted to them (yet) for approval. So without this, it is clear that one isn't on the immediate horizon. Afterall, approval can take 3 to 6 months on average, and even longer in certain cases. Even after it is granted, it takes yet more time to setup for fullscale production and all that jazz....so usually the total wait is at least a year.
Third, CZ's line has been that right now they are focusing on military contracts and this sure seems to be the truth. Not only are they supplying their own military, but possibly also Slovakia, Pakistan, and now Egypt. So it seems like their dance card is pretty darn full for 2018 and into 2019....at least.
The original CZ-805A1 was selected for adoption in 2009, underwent some revisions requested by the Czech military, and then started to be delivered in large numbers in 2011. It wasn't until 2013 that we started to hear talk about a semi version for the USA market, with the pistol finally showing up in 2015 and the carbine in 2016.

If the 806 follows a similar track, a US semi version won't appear until at least 2020.
And by then, who knows what our politicians might have done to us law abiding gun owners...or if we'll even be allowed to show something like a CZ-806S1 on youtube? I only wish i was joking or being hyperdramatic there but right now? who knows what the future holds for us. This goes doubly so for anything imported. Imports are always the most at risk for all kinds of reasons sadly.
Which really stinks as i love them and i would really like to have an 806 or 807 same as you.

In fact, I just posted a video on my newest addition to my Czech military collection.
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Yes I would like to see that also but don't hold your breath. I like CZ firearms, they always give FN a good run for the Money with the same or better quality.
Could be a SCAR 17 killer for sure. Pretty sure Superman wouldn't even hold his breath either.
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Egyptian surplus guns/kits?

Mags?

Yeah right..

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And this makes sense. First off, 805 sales have been pretty flat. This despite nearly all positive reviews and falling prices, still Americans aren't lining up to buy one.
Well good lord, I understand why, don't get me wrong, all I carry are CZ pistols or clones, but that rifle is just beastly ugly and overthought, I mean fugly, like not-even-at-closing-time ugly, double-coyote, yuk.
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Yeah I saw this too. They mentioned that Egypt has bought 50,000 CZ handguns also. Seems like a pretty big handgun order for them
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Yeah I saw this too. They mentioned that Egypt has bought 50,000 CZ handguns also. Seems like a pretty big handgun order for them


Probably replacing a lot of old pistols they used, probably going to standardize on a CZ model
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