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Old 09-13-2018, 09:24 PM   #71
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Tiger....The fear factor was there and rightly so!
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Old 09-13-2018, 10:54 PM   #72
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Nobody voted for the Tiger .
That's 'cause Oddball waxed two of them with a little Sherman and made a deal with the third.




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Old 09-13-2018, 11:23 PM   #73
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Germany's long list of army, marine, and air heavy equipment during the years of the fighting had things in common. Large size, evidence of impressive engineering exercises, and the art that is part of Teutonic style. The machines from the simple Panther to the Bismarck were creations endowed with a sinister beauty.

And why? The psychological effect they were supposed to impart upon enemy forces. Did it work? It sure did. Everything from the scream of a Junkers Ju 87 Stuka to the fearsome silhouette of the heavy tanks and large battleships struck fear into enemy soldiers. Of course behind these things of sinister beauty was an army still dependent on horses, light motorbikes, and the soles of their boots.

I guess one can say that the Nazi upper command understood the strength of the symbolism contained inside myths and superstitions quite well and exploited all as much as possible. Some say that Hitler himself believed that he was sent by God on a holy mission to save the German people - kind of a hard one for me to accept knowing what a diabolical, evil bastard he was. While today we might remark "so what?" in the days of the war most temporarily-conquered people had never seen a moving film or especially a television.

The tanks were no different. While the Stug and others had greater numbers and arguably greater meaningful effectiveness they were quite plain and not fearsome in appearance. The Panther and Tiger changed that "look".

But we know how flawed was the vision of the upper command driven and controlled by the flawed vision of Hitler who glorified himself as a soldier's soldier and "knew" his decisions must be the "correct" ones. But the ideas, sketches, and working models of that era of Germany's weapons engineers left a lasting impression witnessed everywhere today regarding weapons of infantry and the battlefield. Still, my vote is for the Panther as its design parameters and lines are still present in the successful tanks of today.
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Old 09-14-2018, 09:25 AM   #74
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I concur 100% with the treatise above,

Case closed, mic drop, or whatever vernacular you prefer...

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I guess the Bottom Line is they ALL were good for their intended purposes. Some were used for Recon. Some Infantry support. Some Assault guns. Others tank on tank or tank destroyer. It's just a matter of how you look at it.
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I am still thinking the French Char B1 is right up there. Even Guderian had high praise for it.
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I concur 100% with the treatise above,

Case closed, mic drop, or whatever vernacular you prefer...

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Oh Yeah...think about those times & that fighting........the type of German Armor that was common ,the PANZER II, III, IV,
38t,"HETZERS".....
THEN....



You run into Panzer IIs, IIIs,IVs, ...38t,,your 37mm AT Gun penetrates thier armor.......
sometimes ..sometimes NOT....
AMBUSH is the best way to fight the Germans ,thier Armor& Tactics.




One cold,wet, foggy Dawn.......
Your 2 Squads are prepping ambush 4+ -Km West of the Village
and at the place 2Km North, where the track takes that sharp turn ,then uphill, all MUD..........

In the distance you can hear ARMOR crankin' up....LOTS of ARMOR..........







KING OVERLOOKS AMBUSHES..YOUR AMBUSHES..radio crackles ALERT!


KING TIGER"ARIELLA" spots 1 AMBUSH.......


KING TIGER"HAMMER" takes out Russian Blocker & goes hunting...


TIGER I"LOKI" sets 88MM AMBUSH ......


"ERICA"TIGER I Spots& drives Ambushers to TIGER I 88MM AMBUSH



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i vote tiger ausf("batch") e, and panzer iv ausf h.
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Panzerkampfwagen Tiger Ausf B


Today? Have to be this for obvious reasons.
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Panzerkampfwagen Tiger Ausf B


OH YEAH...Imagine setting Ambush &THIS rolls out the woods @ 30feet....hunting YOU!
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