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11-02-2009, 09:36 PM |
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SGT. MAC
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Canted sight on Arsenal
I am embarassed to even ask this question as I already own 14 other AK47/74 rifles. I just picked up a new Arsenal Saiga Legion last week from the gunstore. I am in the process of putting on Ukranian-Soviet era furniture when I noticed that there is a very slight cant to the right on the rear sight. You can only notice it if you stare at the rifle from a bird's eye view. I have been fortunate not to have ever had this problem before. Do you gentleman think that this will affect the accuracy of this weapon? Is this acceptable? Any suggestions? I am not really keen on sending this rifle as I have already put this valuable furniture on. Thank you for your time and input in advance.
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11-02-2009, 09:58 PM |
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drjarhead
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Doesn't sound like a big deal to me.
Shoot it and see.
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11-03-2009, 12:26 AM |
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Jpanzer
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I've read that straightening out a canted sight block really isnt that big of a deal, though I have no firsthand experience with this.
Canted sights on an Arsenal, wow, I bet quite a few WASR owners are grinning now...
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11-06-2009, 02:16 PM |
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SGT. MAC
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Anybody out there know about fixing a canted rear sight?
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11-06-2009, 02:24 PM |
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Fortis
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Is the front sight canted as well, do they align? I know Arsenal/Cugir are worlds apart but on my psl they simply canted the front to match the rear, open sight accuracy is very good. I would think Arsenal would be above this though & just make it right before sending it out.
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11-07-2009, 01:07 AM |
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Tommo
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An easy and quick fix. Just wack it real hard with a sleg hammer!
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11-08-2009, 01:15 PM |
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SGT. MAC
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Tommo, I hope that comment was supposed to be sarcasm! Can anybody give me the scoop on what I need to do.
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11-08-2009, 08:36 PM |
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In the past, I have fix front sight post cant on AR rifles with a swift whack of a hammer handle so not to mar the finish and get them back to mechanical zero .
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11-09-2009, 07:07 AM |
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SGT. MAC
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The front sight is fine, the rear sight is the one that is crooked.
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12-12-2009, 02:20 PM |
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Polak Redneck
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Sgt. Mac,
I have a similar problem on my Tantal. If I look down on the rear sight block it is obvious that the rear sight leaf is canted in the block. The "ears" on the block that hold the sight leaf pins appear to be straight...it is the leaf itself that is canted.
It definitely affects accuracy...rifle shoots consistently to the right...if I have it zeroed for height and windage at 50 yards it will be off to the right by a few inches at 100.
I spoke with a well known smith about it at the SAR show last weekend. He suggested two likely causes...either the pins on the sight leaf are bent, or the holes for the pins were drilled into the block improperly aligned. I'm going to remove the leaf and inspect the pins and the mounting holes in the block. Hopefully it is just the leaf, that will be an easy fix...bend the pins back straight or replace it. Having to install a replacement rear sight block is not something I have the tools or expertise to do, I will need to find a local smith willing to do the job.
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12-12-2009, 08:08 PM |
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Winsoc
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Had the same problem (not with a Saiga) and sent it back for repairs. Canted sights are one thing but an entirely shifted block? No thanks.
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12-14-2009, 01:33 AM |
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I have noticed this a few times. It did not affect the accuracy of the rifle. It's not FSB or RSB cant. It's the actual rear sight leaf which appears to not be perfectly in line with the bore of the rifle. It could effect something, but as long as it is in the true center of the RSB it should not matter.
Shooting the rifle will tell the tale. If you can't adjust the front sight. You might try replacing the rear sight with another to see if that solves your issue. If not you might consider buying a East German adjustable rear sight. These are nice as you don't have to mess with the front sight at all.
Here is a photo of one.

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12-14-2009, 04:22 PM |
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Send it back.....Arsenal AK's have some sort of warranty, correct? For the price they sell them at they should anyway.....
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12-16-2009, 07:25 PM |
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Hey Sarge, I have the same problem with a Century AK. Looking at the sight, I can clearly see that the rear sight block is canted about 3 degrees to the left. I attemped correct it by removing the pin, heating it and turning it on the barrel, but it did not budge, so I quit before I broke anything. I'm going to look into having a competent gunsmith fix it if possible.
The other solution is to just bypass the sight altogether by installing a red dot or a rail with an iron sight. Probably cheaper than a gunsmith.
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12-19-2009, 02:57 PM |
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Polak Redneck
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Well, I just finished doing some upgrades to my Tantal. I didn't like the FCG the builder put in it so I replaced it with a Tapco G2. I pulled that rear sight leaf off the block and it is definitely the leaf that is causing the problem and not the block. The pins are not in alignment with each other and would definitely cause a rightward cant. Looks like whoever was machining rear sight leaves that day at the Luznik Radom Arsenal had a little too much of the old Wodka Polska on his lunch hour. LOL. Ah, well, that is easily fixed I will shop around for a another Tantal sight or maybe put one of the East German adjustables on it.
5.45, where did you get the East German sight?
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12-27-2009, 06:04 PM |
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Go here, look under AK parts.
http://images.google.com/imgres?img...t%3D36%26um%3D1
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01-08-2010, 10:55 PM |
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sniper47
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OMG! An arsenal has a canted sight block? No way. I don't believe it. It can't be. It is against the law for any ak varient, except for the century built WASR's, to have canted sights. Arsenals are made by God himself, so it can't be canted. Only the monkeys at century cant sights.
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