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Old 09-09-2017, 10:34 PM   #1
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Default 9mm luger vs 45 acp

>be me
>nopistolfag
>all about ak rifles
>think maybe they be fun
>research guns, calibers ballistics
>want something cheap to shoot so i guess its down to these 2
>try to find out which is better
>seems everyone is shilling for 9mm
>seems everyone is misrepresenting 9mm as objectively better because its recently improved while not mentioning thats with p++ rounds where p++ and other loads and ballistics have also improved for .45acp
>it also seems to be the general consensis 9mm is only worth it for defence if u use this sort of expensive load or reload
>practical rn or fmj defensive 45acp rounds at around 20cents per round
>realize they are totaly one sided and ive seen this sort of propaganda from arshills and tacticoolfags trying to justify their purchases by pretending they have virtue that arent an inherent given to feel good about themselves just like i see from ppl who beleive ak cant hit broad side of barn and actualy beleive the mud test was real and a ar15 would function at all once got the spare mags in the mud and wanted to reload
with so much disinfo, what is the truth about these boolets /akfiles/?

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Old 09-09-2017, 10:36 PM   #2
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wtf?
Its a channel 4 type story.
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Where's Nalioth's new 'beat the almost dead cow' gif?
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why not both?
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Old 09-09-2017, 11:12 PM   #9
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9mm, 40, 45, 357 mag, 10mm, 44 mag. Buy whatever you like they're very reasonably priced these days mise well just get them all.
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Old 09-09-2017, 11:23 PM   #11
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9mm. I honestly would rather take the .40 over the 45 because the 40 is more powerful. 40 is good because you can convert to a 9mm if you want and always have the option of 40 for an ammo crunch.

The thing I like about 9mm is that it is one HELL of a PENETRATOR. The capacity, decent power, and the penetration capabilities makes the 9mm the perfect caliber for submachine guns and has the potential to do crap like the 5.7 light armor piercing and bloom with hollers like a 45. Plus you have so many proven designs with this caliber.
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OP, learn to type in normal, structured sentences, and you might get an answer.
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Just putting the muzzle in your open mouth?

Either 9mm or 45ACP will do!
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I was searching "9mm vs .45" and found this:

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All pistol calibers below .44 Mag are underpowered, so I consider the 9mm luger/.38spc/.40/.45 argument to be moot.

You have extremely underpowered on the lower end, and moderately weak on the upper end. Pick whichever you shoot best and remember that a pistol is just to defend yourself until you can get a long gun.
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9mm op? Really. What do you wear skinny jeans and go to socialist meetings? 45 acp because America!























Really you are just splitting hairs. It's a pistol. Shoot both. Life is all about variety.
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All pistol calibers below .44 Mag are underpowered, so I consider the 9mm luger/.38spc/.40/.45 argument to be moot.

You have extremely underpowered on the lower end, and moderately weak on the upper end. Pick whichever you shoot best and remember that a pistol is just to defend yourself until you can get a long gun.
Well, except for 357.
Once you see first-hand what that can do to a body the first two words that come out are 'Holy Shit!'
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Old 09-10-2017, 09:18 AM   #21
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This guy again...I love this guy.
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9mm for casual use. 10mm for serious social engagements
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Sorry OP. Got three lines in and pretty much think you are a fool.
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Old 09-10-2017, 10:54 AM   #24
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That scene of Beating a Live Cow" in Post # 8 got my attention.....

Several years back - shall I say about 5 or six years - I went to Tim's Guns in Auburndale FL and spoke with Tim about acquiring a .40 caliber pistol and he talked me out of it. He could have made a sale. Well known and respected shop owner in this part of the I-4 Corridor. Any way, he considered that the 9mm could do every thing the .40 could do and do it better, with a wider range of options in ammo.
However, to each his or her own. I do own a .45 Hungarian Hi-Power type pistol that I like very much, and I like the .45 as a caliber. Also own several fairly high end 9mm pistols and have my sights so to speak on several more - the Beretta APX and CZ-C10 which both seem to be strong sellers. My primary focus in a hand gun at present is getting a Bersa Thunder Pro HC, and also a Bersa Thunder Pro XT which is the 5 inch barreled competition version tweeked for competition shooting and which from reviews has one of the very best triggers on a pistol. I do not shoot in competitions, but would utilize that XT model as a PDW due to its accuracy and trigger.
Beyond 9mm and have several pistols in .32 caliber and .380. and .22. .22 LR as far as I know has killed and wounded more people in the US than any other caliber. I am not at all averse to carrying one of my .32 caliber pistols - one a Colt Pocket in .32 caliber, or my AMT Back up in .380. They are not the exotic calibers, but men were using them to shoot and kill other men for decades before the larger calibers gained favor.
Unlike many I am quite comfortable with any of my pistols of lighter caliber to use in self defense. Do I have preferences personally? Sure. That is why I am looking at acquiring the Bersa I noted above, and after that a Beretta APX or CZC10 or FN 509 all of which are excellent 9 mm pistols.
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45 "long" Colt.
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The truth is that you try both and stick with whichever you decide suits you best. Anything else would, honestly, be stupid.
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9mm luger vs 45 acp

Yes.

Next question.

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Yes

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You can always shoot twice.
(.45, 9mm, etc.)

Head shots are always a bonus.
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Send both down the barrel of a 50?
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Well, except for 357.
Once you see first-hand what that can do to a body the first two words that come out are 'Holy Shit!'
Yes, .357 is chingon. Excellent round, especially out of a carbine.
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That's fine. You get to carry the gun and all the ammo and hand it to me when it's needed.
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9mm, 40, 45, 357 mag, 10mm, 44 mag. Buy whatever you like they're very reasonably priced these days mise well just get them all.
wow..i never realized just how cheap this stuff has gotten now...
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How about learn to properly shoot your chosen firearm and then follow up with regular practice?
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