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In the most strident warning over gun control to President Obama yet, the Utah Sheriffs' Association is pledging to go to war over any administration plan to take guns away, even if it means losing their lives.
Calling the Second Amendment a sacred right of citizens to protect themselves from "tyrannical subjugation," the association state elected sheriffs said in a new letter , "we are prepared to trade our lives for the preservation of its traditional interpretation." Theirs is the first meaningful proof that some in law enforcement and the military are preparing to fight federal forces if the president wins his goal of sweeping gun control. In a direct warning to Obama, the FBI and other agencies, the sheriffs wrote: "Make no mistake, as the duly-elected sheriffs our our respective counties, we will enforce the rights guaranteed to our citizens by the Constitution. No federal official will be permitted to descend upon our constituents and take from them what the Bill of Rights--in particular Amendment II--has given them." While he wants an assault weapons ban and limits on ammo magazines, the president has not yet suggested he wants to confiscate guns. Utah sheriffs warn Obama of deadly war over guns | Mobile Washington Examiner http://m.washingtonexaminer.com/utah...6#.UP4EeL-9Kc2
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Good News.
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Nope, Ive sent emails to the VCDL asking for a nudge.
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I want to go talk to my local Sherrif and see what he thinks of it all. Just been so damn busy and my trucks broke down so I have been relying on others to take me places.
I would call him but would rather talk to him personally about it.
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does that also include so called assault weapons? or just fudd rifles and gran daddys 45?
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I am quite sure that many other sheriff's associations are very aware of what just went down.
Hope that it gives other states' associations the same idea.
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Our Sheriff here in New Mexico has stated his department would meet Federal Agents at the County Line to oppose any anti-2nd Amendment activity. 30 of our 33 Sheriffs have signed on with their opposition to any new draconian Federal laws or executive orders.
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the best news i heard in a long time! this will rattle some cages.
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They are scared it may give others the same idea.
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I saw it briefly mentioned in the MSM a day or two ago. Wasn't much of a headliner though.
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its not saying much. Of course if Feds come physically to take your guns everyone will be shooting. There will be more metal in the air than air. Thats not saying enough. Unless we want our kids to be the ones fighting then we need to make the same commitment if any gun control at the federal level happens. Most certainly if registration or back door registration is enacted. Noone is saying that however. They keep moving the line back.
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We need more letters like this from more states to make a real difference. I'm sure GA, TX, OK, AL and a few other southern states will join the bandwagon. We need a majority on this. The Feds will run riot if there are just a tiny minority that refuse to accept a dick in their ass. I'd like to see Obama's minions spread so thin and overwhelmed by us bible banging gun totin Patriots! Bring it Big Ears OFucktard!
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Do you have a form letter of sorts? If so you can PM it to me? I have emailed them as well, but we may have to start with each Sheriff. The Commonwealth has been compromised. So it's going to be a struggle here, perhaps start with the more rural Sheriffs, and perhaps we can gain some momentum.
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Feds need to have their asses handed to them.
We all should start harassing them with letters, YouTube monologues or dialogues, phone calls, emails. Make their days interesting days.
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+1 for Utah
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Been contacting local Sheriffs and every Co in SW VA up to Roanoke is pro 2nd rights
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Looks like the place to be is either UTAH or IDAHO! They got their common sense screwed on straight up there, boy!
Idaho Sheriff Donahue issues statement on White House's gun violence reduction plan Canyon County Sheriff Kieran Donahue issued the following statement in response to the gun violence reduction plan announced by the White House: First of all, and let me be as plain-spoken as possible as to two issues: First, gun ownership is not a political issue; it is a constitutional right. Second, what happened in Newtown isn’t a political issue, it’s a tragedy. People who confuse these principles have no business telling me how to do my job. I swore an oath to uphold the Constitution, enforce the law, and protect my community, and that’s what I’ll do. Law abiding citizens have every right to own legal firearms, and I am confident that our Congress would not be so foolish as to let anyone strip us of our Second Amendment rights. I’ve looked at the 23 Executive Actions signed by the President today, and I don’t see that they accomplish anything. It’s just political posturing, and I’m not going to fight hysteria with hysteria. I’ve worked for years with dedicated ATF agents, and other local law enforcement officers, to keep illegal guns – like sawed off shotguns – off our streets and enforce laws prohibiting felons from owning or possessing firearms. The President says he wants to provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers. Let’s do it. I’ll be first in line, and stand ready to devote as many officers as I can to schools just as soon as he provides that funding. I am a strong advocate of having certified police officers serve as SRO’s in our schools. He wants to require law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations. We already do. He wants to maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime. Each and every day, law enforcement officers in our communities put their lives on the line to prevent gun violence and uphold the constitution. Those men and women don’t have time for hollow political posturing. When the White House is ready for meaningful dialogue, perhaps we can then talk about the real issues: for example, a culture of violence and disrespect of law enforcement, mental health issues, and the flow of illegal drugs into our Country. God bless the United States of America. Kieran Donahue Canyon County Sheriff |
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Good time to run someone against the 3 that don't support the constitution. Glad to hear you still have mostly good Sheriffs your way.
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But with what? ................... That is why they want our ammo so bad. That United Nations A.T.T. is authentic tyrannical subjugation. Each state should have its own ammunition production facility(s). That would make the tyrants made obslete for a large part. "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be. . . The People cannot be safe without information. When the press is free, and every man is able to read, all is safe." -- Thomas Jefferson "If once (the people) become inattentive to the public affairs, you and I, and Congress and Assemblies, Judges and Governors, shall all become wolves. 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