So, Should I Chance It For A VZ-58?

[Blackmore]

I know it's Century, but for only $399 shipped should I give it a shot? I've always wanted a VZ-58 type.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...ducts_id/72947

[norinco671]

i think thats a pretty good deal if you want a vz58 built in the U.S. and dont want to spend a bit more to a close as we can get to an original vz58 we get here. hope their finish on the rifle is allot better now than the one i used to own. i wonder if they improved on their barrels, and if its still .308 as to the .311

[kville79]

I've never heard of major issues with the Century builds other than needing to chase the muzzle threads to put on a different muzzle device... for $399 I think I might get one. Mind you the barrels are American made and not chrome lined, but that means you can use surplus mags without worrying about 922(r).

[10781618]

$399 is a steal. Www.Centerfiresystems.com just got the VZ2008 back in stock for $499.99.

[mojo00]

Originally Posted by kville79

I've never heard of major issues with the Century builds other than needing to chase the muzzle threads to put on a different muzzle device...

VZs are not compatible with AK "muzzle devices"...not an issue unless you (bubba/mall ninja) plan on crapy flash hider/muzzle brakes add ons.

Hardly a major issue.....Czechs made a wonderful brake for the VZ 58s, they will fit the VZ 2008 threads, its the only real brake for the VZs IMHO

[10781618]

Parts are harder to come by, but can be ordered from CzechpointUSA

[norinco671]

Originally Posted by kville79

I've never heard of major issues with the Century builds other than needing to chase the muzzle threads to put on a different muzzle device... for $399 I think I might get one. Mind you the barrels are American made and not chrome lined, but that means you can use surplus mags without worrying about 922(r).

lets not forget that the vz2008 receivers are also U.S. made

[Blackmore]

Thanks to all for the replies. I just clicked the link again and since yesterday Bud's has changed it so the price is for ZIP members only - a $24.95 price increase to join. Grrrr. Decisions, decisions.

[Sweersa]

I wonder how hard compliance parts are to find for these things. Makes me wonder what US parts are on these ones, and who makes them.

[AE86FL]

The price is very attractive when most internet dealers are asking for $499+shipping.
I was so close to finalize the order for this VZ2008 at buds. Suddenly, my memory of the Century’s pathetic warranty policy when dealing with their AK74/tantal problem woke me up and stopped the process. Knowing my luck and hard to find parts, I guess I would pass over this deal.

[armored223]

Originally Posted by Sweersa

I wonder how hard compliance parts are to find for these things. Makes me wonder what US parts are on these ones, and who makes them.

Because of the total number of parts in a VZ 922 compliance is 5 instead of the 6 like in an AK.

3 for fire control group
1 Reciever
1 barrel

5 total. That is why the vz2008 is ok without us parts in the mags.

We all know guns are much more dangerous if they dont have those 922 parts in them

[rgjerkson]

The VZ2008 has six parts US-made.
sear
disconnector
receiver
barrel
muzzle attachment
gas piston

it uses the original trigger from what i recall.

[armored223]

922 only requires 5 on a VZ so if it has 6 your are fine then. But I'm not certain that the muzzle attachment counts because its permanently attached to the barrel to achieve 16 inches and therefore considered part of the barrel and not an extra part.

[Beer Hounds]

I have to ask, and may be missing something here, but why are people so wrapped up in 922r? I own a lot of guns, and have friends that own a lot of guns, and no one I know has ever heard of 922r. Besides here do people really get concerned with this?

[sqhammer]

Many are already leary of our government and there is no reason to flaunt law and set ourselves up for failure. You didnt say what type of guns you and friends have, i.e. domestic deer rifles, etc., but imported rifles are subjected to 922r. It's an easy fix, and it keeps po-po off your back.

[armored223]

If your going to build you better be aware of 922r. It's been affecting every imported Semi auto rifle since the early 90's. Your frinds must not be aware of why us made parts on on their guns but that is 922 doing. Yes no one has ever been checked but doesnt mean they couldnt start or use that against you for something else. You also will not find a builder who does it proffesionally not follow it when the gun leaves there shop. They are federally license and subject to atf search. They wont risk having somehting not in compliance if they are checked. What you do afterwards is at your own risk.

[armored223]

Or they are not aware because by the your buddies buy the gun. Century or whoever imported and built it already has the 922 parts in it.

[scarymike23]

What do magazines run for these? I'd heard they won't take AK mags

[armored223]

They take a propriety mag and do not take AK mags. $25-$30

[mustang74]

Just bought a VZ 58 kit with an original barrel, this is my first dealings with this type of kit so here goes the questions. First who makes a USA trigger kit for this rifle, I'am getting a Assualt Weapons of Ohio receiver. What other USA parts can I buy to make it compliant and what companys make these parts?

[AKBLUE]

Originally Posted by armored223

They take a propriety mag and do not take AK mags. $25-$30

Incorrect., mags are $15,
Plenty of parts, barrels etc.,

http://www.czechpoint-usa.com/produc...sories/?list=7

http://www.czechpoint-usa.com/produc...sories/?list=1

The Century VZ's see to have a good history.

[david lambo]

it needs 5 parts; my czechpoint model has a u.s. trigger, disconnector, sear, floorplate, and follower; bonesteel makes trigger groups and gas pistons, ronin makes a vz58 grip as well

[cbr954fz1]

just got an e-mail from J&G and they have the vz2008 for $399 and $9.95 for surplus mags when you buy the rifle...i have built acouple and own a century also w/no issues...i've heard that CNC Warrior trigger group is the best so thats 3 u.s. parts + rec, brake and thats it..

[Lord Ak-47]

Are the vz2008s being sold now the same as the ones that where $350 two years ago?

Has there ever been any imported with foreign made barrels and/or receivers?

[AKBLUE]

CzechPoint imports them on Czech receivers with Czech barrels. Opens up the mag well and adds US parts. $700 to $875.

[obiwanbonjovi]

Originally Posted by mustang74

Just bought a VZ 58 kit with an original barrel, this is my first dealings with this type of kit so here goes the questions. First who makes a USA trigger kit for this rifle, I'am getting a Assualt Weapons of Ohio receiver. What other USA parts can I buy to make it compliant and what companys make these parts?

http://bonesteelarms.com/VZ-58_c2.htm

[obiwanbonjovi]

chasing the threads is not an issue of trying to accept ak muzzle devices. there was a large run of vz2008s where the minor on the threads was not cut deep enough, and those wont accept anything but the century slant, they wont even take an original thread protector, running a die over them will clean them up good so they take other devices.

Originally Posted by mojo00

VZs are not compatible with AK "muzzle devices"...not an issue unless you (bubba/mall ninja) plan on crapy flash hider/muzzle brakes add ons.

Hardly a major issue.....Czechs made a wonderful brake for the VZ 58s, they will fit the VZ 2008 threads, its the only real brake for the VZs IMHO

[Spieler]

I really wanted one of these back when they were regularly going for $349 from Century, but life and bills got in the way. With this Labor Day sale from J&G for $399 plus $10 mags, I just couldn't pass it up. The price is right, and I haven't heard very much 'net talk of negatives about the Century build on these guns. I ordered mine yesterday and am hoping that it's at my dealer be the end of the week.

[dezrat57]

Hello!
just picked mine up @ J&G today + 8- $9.95 mags.. took home and did a thorough cleaning, finish,fit and machining are excellent...different from the AK's design.. neat though with last round hold open mags,stripper clip capable,hold open button when no mag present...seems narrow and light with milled reciever..
will put a few 100 down range tomorrow and see..
czechpoint has repo flash hiders if the slant cut dosen't appeal.. + all the spares...

thx
dave

[dezrat57]

Hello!

put 120 rds down range today, after adjusting elevation & windage the groups were good for iron sights 2"-3" single rest.. 2 -3shot groups @ 1" using Uly FMJ and double rest..
no hiccups..
nice single stage trigger with no creep..seems US barrel (green mountain?) works...
the more i look @ this thing(dissasembled) the more it looks like a higher end type rifle build.
my .02

thx
dave