View Full Version : Thumbhole Stock Conversion Assistance Needed
01-23-2004, 11:10 AM
I have read many conflicting posts concerning the legal conversion of a post ban thumbhole stock AK to pistol grip and would like to ask for assistance in clearing this up.
Am I correct that if I add a US made fire control group including the hammer, disconnector and trigger along with a US made stock set including the pistol grip, stock and forend I will be compliant?
Also, will this mean that I do not need to replace the gas piston since the above parts constitute 5 US made parts?
Can I bother you to recommend companies that sell US made single hook fire control groups and/or stock sets for the Hungarian SA-85? I am not looking to trick out my AK, just something on a budget.
01-23-2004, 12:53 PM
well here is the list of parts for a AK:
(1) Frames, receivers, receiver castings, forgings or stampings
(3) Mounting blocks (trunions)
(4) Muzzle attachments
(6) Bolt carriers
(7) Gas pistons
(12) Pistol grips
(14) Magazine bodies
so by replacing the parts you want, with US parts, it's actually 6:
on a foreign receiver you are good to go, because that will leave you with just 10 imported parts left.
if you don't have a foreign muzzle attachment to your rifle, then you can leave out one of the above US parts, which would then make it 5 US parts.
IRONWOOD sells US AK furniture
as for the trigger etc... TAPCO sells them, as well as GLOBAL TRADES
01-23-2004, 09:21 PM
Use the list above, and count which parts you have. You are permitted 10 import parts on a "domestic" rifle, which can have the pistol grip and hi-cap magazine. Is the SA-85 milled or stamped? If milled, you don't have a trunion; it's part of the milled receiver, and doesn't count. (The trigger of an AK has the same logic: one piece is both trigger and sear, but only counts as one part.) If you have 15 parts, replacing the buttstock, forearm, trigger, hammer, and disconnector will lower your import parts count to 10. If you 16 parts, you'll need to find another part to replace; the gas piston is the next easiest, unless you have an imported muzzle device you will sacrifice or replace with a US-made one.
I don't advise replacing magazine followers or floor plates, because you'll have to replace them on every magazine you have, to be safe.
01-27-2004, 10:17 PM
What about the trigger guard?
01-27-2004, 11:13 PM
Trigger guard is not a BATFE part. If you mean does it have to be changed, no for any that I know of (MAK-90, Bulgarian, Romanian Drag-style, etc.) The stock was designed to fit the receiver and guard.
On the Saiga rifles, which are not thumbhole style, the trigger guard is on a separate piece, not the receiver. The fire control group (FCG; trigger/sear, disconnector, hammer) is different, and the conversion is more difficult, but still not too bad.
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