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BattleRifleG3
12-15-2005, 10:22 PM
Wondered what folks' experiences have been hunting big game with a Mosin Nagant. I have a 91/30 that is in most ways my most comfortable bolt action, and would seem ideal in most ways for whitetail in western PA.

Things I've wondered are what sort of non-corrossive ammo is best for my uses, ie hunting PA whitetail at multi-hundred yard distances. Looking for flatter trajectories and of course best accuracy.

Also looking to use a non-permanent scout type scope setup, as my eyes aren't the best for longer ranges.

bill3542
12-17-2005, 12:21 AM
im in SW Pa about 50 east of pittsburg but ive only used my M38s for groundhogs out to 200 yds. i was using wolf 200 grain softpoint for that. it didnt seem to open up well so i took one apart and found its,copper jacket,then steel jacket and a lead core with a exposed lead tip. might be a bit better for deer but too damn hard for chucks. i believe Seller&Belliot makes a 180 gr softpoint but have never found any to try. most accurate corrosive surplus for me is 1960s czech silvertip or 1980s czech copperwashed cases with 1980s russian a close second. i know from shooting that i can ring 12 inch steel gongs at 200 yds without a problem but chucks are a bit smaller, im only runnin 50/50 on them and no none of mine are scoped. dont remember who but somebody makes a scope mount that attaches were your rear sight is after removing part of it and using a long eye relief pistol scope. i believe they call it a (scout) setup so maybe do a bit of google searching on that.

BattleRifleG3
12-17-2005, 01:55 AM
I have a scout mount on order, my understanding is that it involves no permanent mods to the gun.

6526
12-17-2005, 03:26 AM
after I joined the nav, a buddy of mine got a long nagant and a box of "huntin shells" for $75,he got a nice heart shot on a white tail and dropped it, prob was after they brought the deer to my dad to take care of(they brought the heart to), he wanted to see the ammo. he scraped silver paint of the tip of it, full metal jacket underneath!,,,,,, now we know better,, aint that the color code for 210 grn. fmj? ??????????????the gun will do the job just as well as any other mil surp rifle if its sited in

bill3542
12-17-2005, 07:18 AM
silvertip ammo could be surplus czech,russian,or hungarian ammo most of it 147 FMJ and some of it has a mild steel core.only new production ammo has any softpoint at all, all surplus is FMJ. Battlerifle if your looking for cheap surplus plinking ammo there is a couple guys here in SW Pa that carry it at very good prices. e-mail me for info.

BattleRifleG3
12-17-2005, 12:30 PM
After my cleaing efforts showed to be less effective than I hoped, I'm leaning away from corrossive ammo. Just don't seem to get them cleaned fast enough not to notice any damage.

bill3542
12-17-2005, 06:49 PM
you need something to neutralize corrosive primer salts first,cheap way is windex-d with ammonia,spray in barrel on barrel brush scrub good swab out till patches are dry then use regular gun cleaning products. there is a product called (ballistol) which is good for corrosive ammo also,some gun shops carry it.ive shot a lot of corrosive surplus through mine with no damage so far. i know people who use a 50-50 mix of household ammonia and water first instead of windex,the ammonia is what neutralizes the corrosive salts from the primers.

stormshadow7
12-18-2005, 07:50 PM
hey battleg3, if you can get the steel scout mount and not th cheap aluminum picatanny scout mount i ordered. the thing lost it's zero after the 3rd round then hollowed out the attachment screws, to fix this i drilled out the screws and replaced them with the original sight leaf pin, then went crazy with the lock tigh( which i failed to do in the first place) but the mosin as a scout is aesome in my opinon, i love mine and the ler scope i put on it will be tested in an upcoming hog hunt in january.

matt
12-26-2005, 02:38 AM
You were asking about a source for noncorrosive,soft
point ammunition. My source for that is Dave Kennedy at
Century Arms Inter. Phone 1-800-5271252. Brass cased/
reloadable.

matt
12-27-2005, 03:57 PM
I've an assortment of firearms. Some of which are
the Finnish Mosin variety. Found at:
www.helsinkiarms.com