When will the new American Revolution begin?

[JTEXX53]

Americans have come to realize neither the Democrats or Republicans have their constituents anywhere near being their #1 priority. With the way that home foreclosures are stll escalating, and unemployment figures released are skewed that don't represent the acutal numbers of unemployed. Watching the morning news that crime is at an all time new low. It's not going to stay that way for long if thing don't improve fast. It's going to take an event, to eventually set off the masses to the streets of Americas large cities. People trapped in the large metroplexes, is where the first civil unrest/revolt will start. Don't forget how many Americans own guns. Once we realize we can't win for losing or in this case get ahead or just keep our noses above water. You see a civil revolt in America, it's past due.

Not that I endorse it but I'm really surprised that members of Congress haven't started to be picked off by snipers one at a time. Our Federal Govenment continues giving money away to other countries and fighting a war that is virtually impossible to win. You'd think we would have learned our lesson in Vietnam. Time to take care of number one and that's our own citizens. Convicts in prison get better health care than our poor and working poor. Something is wrong when the same prescription medications are much cheaper in Canada and Mexico. Our political is a broken system just like our public schools. The time for change is coming and it won't be pretty! Lets hear what you think!
JT

[IanMor]

What makes you think it's not all on purpose?

[lsmurphy]

Americans have come to realize neither the Democrats or Republicans have their constituents anywhere near being their #1 priority. With the way that home foreclosures are stll escalating, and unemployment figures released are skewed that don't represent the acutal numbers of unemployed. Watching the morning news that crime is at an all time new low. It's not going to stay that way for long if thing don't improve fast. It's going to take an event, to eventually set off the masses to the streets of Americas large cities. People trapped in the large metroplexes, is where the first civil unrest/revolt will start. Don't forget how many Americans own guns. Once we realize we can't win for losing or in this case get ahead or just keep our noses above water. You see a civil revolt in America, it's past due.

Not that I endorse it but I'm really surprised that members of Congress haven't started to be picked off by snipers one at a time. Our Federal Govenment continues giving money away to other countries and fighting a war that is virtually impossible to win. You'd think we would have learned our lesson in Vietnam. Time to take care of number one and that's our own citizens. Convicts in prison get better health care than our poor and working poor. Something is wrong when the same prescription medications are much cheaper in Canada and Mexico. Our political is a broken system just like our public schools. The time for change is coming and it won't be pretty! Lets hear what you think!
JT

Even for those of us that are outspoken......that one's a little dicey.

Scott

[Geist762]

The control mechinations are in full swing.

Reminds me....
It's like how the military hides the body count of our own dead...
Uhm, maam....your son died in a helicopter accident.

As for why....
Entertainment & Media is nothing but lies that we like to hear.

We expect to hear fiction and lies come out of a politicians mouth.
We're programmed to accept their excrement.

The first thing they did when they started their program was to
repeal the duelling laws.

There used to be a time when slander, libel, and accountablility for
what was said or done would get you called out into the street.

The newspaper men were the ones who needed the protection.
After the repeal, they drug us into the civil war with their hype.

[madmanmccoy]

ONE WAY it MIGHT start ;will be when the black panther types try thier intimidation number at the polls,it spreads, & they do it to the wrong one ,& it escalates,
or IF enough of the right votes get cast,& the election isn't rigged, & the eggplants,illegals,& commies realize thier party is over, they might decide to riot,loot,burn, like they've been known to do if they don't get thier way,then, the muslim- ,waiting for a response, will "crack down on the righ,for the common good"& it'll have to be on.

[drjarhead]

Somewhere, at some point, the govt will act against a group of people with such malice and disdain that they will fight back. The arrogance of the Left grows almost daily though they clearly view the next election with trepidation.

The question then becomes how many will rally and how many will sit on the fence waiting to see what happens.

IMO a true revolt is the only way to preserve your freedoms, hold onto our nation and our lands.

Most will do nothing just as they have done for the past 50 years and that's what has left us in this mess in the first place.

If things continue as they are, some will probably lash out and fight. Gunned down like dogs in the street is what their fate will be.

So my view is pessimistic. It is more pessimistic for what will come if we do not.

Today, right now, I don't think we'll do shit.

[brianell]

Im wondering some of the same things. A lot of people are getting/are really pissed. Including many from both sides. Everyone is sick of politicians, look at how many incumbents are loosing, how many "outsiders" are stomping the establishment, again BOTH sides.

My guess is most are waiting for november, then watching to see what gets shoved through between november and january. If things go poorly for the establishment, and more unjust is done in december, Id expect a surge of violence, is assasinations, and riots. Im by no means condoning this, but in the last 2 years, Ive met, or talked to no one who is anything but disgusted with what's happening, and they'll reach a breaking point eventually.

[77patriots]

Even for those of us that are outspoken......that one's a little dicey.

Scott


agreed...... i dont want to de-evolve into a third world nation by our doing. I belive they should be tried for treason if the crime is there. force should be reserved for protection of your family in my humble current opinion

[Geist762]

The constitutional system was not meant for them to enjoy.

It's amazing how we've been expected to hand over our
God given birthright to the dogs.

I say do away with the Criminal Justice system, since it's
justice for criminals by criminals, and bring back the rule
of LAW. Go back to a KISS system, and deport the
esquires, scribes & pharocees that have turned it into
a pile of parasitic excrement.

Am I speaking ahead of myself? I smell it coming.

[warhound]

It's been brewing for a long time, eventually, something has to give. There are so many variables that it's impossible to say what exactly will happen. I have heard alarmists spit out dates, and events that will occur on those dates, for almost 10 years now.

I do believe it is coming, I just don't believe in trying to make predictions on when and how. All you can do is prepare, and hope that you are ready enough. There is very little anybody can do to stop it.

I just picked up 350 rounds of Sellier and Bellot 7.62x25, and 100 rounds of 9mm for 40$ total :smile_sma. Just a little bit more ready...

Somewhere, at some point, the govt will act against a group of people with such malice and disdain that they will fight back. The arrogance of the Left grows almost daily though they clearly view the next election with trepidation.


+1

[Etek]

Only after November if/when the opposition rigs the elections.

[Kaleb]

Somebody wake me up when it finally does happen. I'm sick of waiting, and I'm going to take a nap.

[mmckown]

Who knows what will set it off? Natural disaster? Economic oblivion? Failed military action outside the country? Political upsurption of power on a massive scale? Open Foreign political/military intervention into US domestic affairs? Open suspension of the US Constitution? A combination of any or all the above?

Damned if I know. All I do know is that I believe all the above are, today, very real danagers. And a whole bunch more, as far as that goes.

Some here seem to look forward to it, I do not. Killing my countrymen for any cause is not something I can look forward to, no matter who they are. It will most certainly mean the end of the US as we know it. Almost certainly it will remove the US as a major world shaper, probably forever. Handing that job over to the Chinese or Indians does not bode well for the future of humanity, nothing but slavery and oppression for decades at least.

Until one of two scenerios comes about I do not believe you will not see a violent uprising.

A. The situation becomes obviously hopeless and those who would rather die than submit make a last stand.
-or-
B. A significant section of the population can be shown that an armed uprising is a viable undertaking and that the current situation is fast approaching the hopeless level.

I am normally a hopeful pessimist, as of late I see no real hope...

[JTEXX53]

I made the post at about 5:00 this morning. It will take either a total meltdown of the economy or a major natural disaster or terroist attack that shoots gas up to $10 a gal to really kick things in gear. Just my opinion but things are pretty bad now but they sure could get a lot worse. If any type of militant type of action took place it would be surpressed pretty quick, they wouldn't want others thinking they could get away with similar actions. Just something I was thinking about at 5:00am as the news was on.
Was glad to see the Chilean miners being brought out from what should have been their tomb. Now that's a population of very poor people. So maybe I should consider myself as a rather fortunate person to be an American, even though things are far less than perfect.
JT

[Beryl]

Never happen. Too many pussies, too many distractions (MTV, Survivor, Oprah, Hanna Montana, porn, etc.), too many snitches, public school brainwashing. I could go on. The fact is, kids are no longer taught the significance of the Constitution, the Founding Fathers, and the history of our nation. We are doomed to become another second-rate, has-been superpower ruled by a bunch of overpaid lawyers.

[drjarhead]

It will never happen.

The system is set up with a release valve.

Here's how it works. The Dems introduce huge social programs requiring vast increases in taxes. The idiots cheer, the working groan. The working then get pissed and "vote em' out"- so they elect Republicans thinking they are going to take away these huge tax burdens. However, notice that when it says "republican"- no new taxes, no tax increases but nothing about REPEALING THE TAXES WE ALREADY PAY. Other than during the Reagan administration, no Republican has repealed huge tax burdens or has repealed a social program. Not one.

Since all of Washington has their hand in the kitty, they will never kill the golden goose no matter what side of the isle they are on- hence why Social Security is still around, Medicare is still around, and why twenty years from now, Obamacare will still be around. Only now it will be your kids bitching about paying for it all while your ass is collecting retirement- of course, since you didn't prepaire properly, you'll be collecting Social Security, so no way in hell would you want that repealed.

Best part, they have you paying their government pensions, as well as the salaries for their indroctrination arm through the public school systems. So while you may get pissed but are afraid to do anything because you have a wife and kids to support- your kid is sitting their buying into the propaganda that keeps your ass working paycheck to paycheck. One day when he starts working, he'll realize the same things- only now he is supporting a wife and kid.

So the cycle continues.

Again, there will never be any kind of uprising. There will never be another revolution. Instead we will eventually slip into some semi-socialist/democratic system as we already are and no one will do a damn thing about.

Notice all the Republican tv ads, "I did not vote for the bailouts", yah, well you voted for the stimulus bill, you didn't repeal social security, you just keep your hand in the cookie jar and are mad that you got booted. They are all Rino's every last one of them.


7
You bet they are.

String 'em all up.

You're completely correct about the cycle we are into.

I'd say we could turn it around if we could stop the leftwing indoctrination of our spoiled brats but we won't.

That of course precludes the invasion of our nation which will forever prevent any hope of turning the entitlement spigot off or turning our nation around.

A victorious armed revolt is the only hope for this nation, and dicey at best, but I don't see it happening. Just not enough of us who understand what is really at stake. Along with their indoctrination, today's spoiled brats have been thoroughly dumbed down by the MSM and the socialist teachers union.



The main thing to get out of all this is that not one socialist entitlement program or govt takeover of education nor anything else has ever been repealed.

The Western male is now ignorant, inept, lazy, dumbed down, thoroughly indoctrinated and intimidated into inaction.

It is really quite pathetic and our people are about to be enslaved while scarcely noticing the cage being erected around them.


I have to laugh at even the buffoons here who think November is going to change anything.

Monkeys
Monkeys with cars

[drjarhead]

Who knows what will set it off? Natural disaster? Economic oblivion? Failed military action outside the country? Political upsurption of power on a massive scale? Open Foreign political/military intervention into US domestic affairs? Open suspension of the US Constitution? A combination of any or all the above?

Damned if I know. All I do know is that I believe all the above are, today, very real danagers. And a whole bunch more, as far as that goes.

Some here seem to look forward to it, I do not. Killing my countrymen for any cause is not something I can look forward to, no matter who they are. It will most certainly mean the end of the US as we know it. Almost certainly it will remove the US as a major world shaper, probably forever. Handing that job over to the Chinese or Indians does not bode well for the future of humanity, nothing but slavery and oppression for decades at least.
I'm not so sure it would forever remove the US as a world power. It sure would in the short term. Even with that, one must remember that it is our economy and our navy that make us a world power.

That said, while I think the odds of a revolt happening are small, I will also say that if it starts, I will be part of it, however I can.

Until one of two scenerios comes about I do not believe you will not see a violent uprising.

A. The situation becomes obviously hopeless and those who would rather die than submit make a last stand.
-or-
B. A significant section of the population can be shown that an armed uprising is a viable undertaking and that the current situation is fast approaching the hopeless level.

I am normally a hopeful pessimist, as of late I see no real hope...
Things are approaching hopeless now, IMO.


While everything is still afloat, we are taking on water and there are icebergs ahead. The things that are ongoing now will take us down an almost irreversible path for the next 10-20 years. That is the nature of the decisions we are making now and have been for quite some time now.

IOWs, what we see looking out the window now is not what we will see when the results of these things become evident. The chickens will come home to roost.

[drjarhead]

The thing to preserve, at all costs, is the Constitution and the BORs. Nothing else matters nearly as much as that. As long as that document and the rights it guarantees are intact there is hope to build a better nation or to rebuild a collapsed one.

We are the last hope for freedom on this planet.

The last several generations have let God, country, their families, and the world down in not preserving that which is most important.

Beyond that, I say again, there is not a State or Fed politician that doesn't deserve to swing from a rope.

Whoever it was that pointed out how lying, scumbag lawyers have destroyed this nation, is right on the money. Hang all of them also. They merely twist and pervert everything they touch.

I've yet to ever meet a lawyer with any honor. They might exist but I sure haven't met them.

[Dirt Diver]

The thing to preserve, at all costs, is the Constitution and the BORs. Nothing else matters nearly as much as that. As long as that document and the rights it guarantees are intact there is hope to build a better nation or to rebuild a collapsed one.

Absolutely!!

It is all we have. The stars truly aligned for the drafting of this epic foundational document.

The caliber of the minds that crafted our republic just do not exist on this Earth...at least no one has struck me as possessing such ability.

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[drjarhead]

Again, it will NEVER happen. Not in our lifetime. We will all die a boring death after a committee has decided we've exceeded our benefit amount.

The end.


7
Your end maybe. ;)

Oz for you will be a lumpy, uncomfortable and plastic coated matress in a delapidated Nursing Home while you moan and beg for Juanita to pull the enema tube out of your ass. You know, the one that she put in there before lunch. Too bad it is now past suppertime and she left at the end of her shift.

Oh crap, here comes that rat again and you only have one good toe left...


Maybe a little OTT but maybe not by so much.


One day it will come to pass that not one swinging dick in this place won't wish they had fought. If nothing else they could have died with honor. Like a man.

[L.T.]

wake up guys, the revolution has begun. fed. building being boomed, planes being flown into them. that is the only kind of revolution there can ever be in this country. Dont kid yourself in to thinking that it will be some kind of mass armed up rising, the feds. moniter bords like this, and privet comm. as well. if they ever got wind of anyone being that organised, they would shut them down pronto, and label them terrorist. That brings up another thing, the news media is controled by the gov. period. You will never hear the term "freedom fighter". any one involved with any kind of revolution wil be a terrorist. bottom line is, war is messy. as mutch as you would like to think that you could organise a thousand snipers and take all the problems out at once, it just dont work that that way. the gov. has the cops, and the military. If you ever start shooting, thats who will be shooting back, not some politician in a suit. I hate the way things are going as much as any one else. If there was a war , yes I would consider getting involved. But I would have to think real hard on it, just not shure if i would be upto killing ppl. like that. maby even some ov them that i know.

[Kaleb]

Count me out of that one Doc. I don't know at what age I will meet my end. I refuse to get old though. The last day for me will be the first day I become a burden.

No wheelchairs, walkers, depends undergarments for me. Catch you bastards on the flip side.

[drjarhead]

Sounds like paradise to me, at least they'll have tapioca pudding and card night.


7Yeah, like they are going to put up with you... ;)

They'll just give you a shot and stick you over by the potted plants. You'll blend right in. :rofl_smal

:evil:



Me, I'm with Kaleb.
I've worked enough nursing homes. What you see when you visit your relatives is the tip of the iceberg. I'd rather be dead. Not even a maybe on that one.

I can't think of one CNA I can remember working with that wasn't certifiable as well as useless.

They will bring you your tapioca though, 7. LOL

[Kaleb]

Yeah, like they are going to put up with you... ;)

They'll just give you a shot and stick you over by the potted plants. You'll blend right in. :rofl_smal

:evil:



Me, I'm with Kaleb.
I've worked enough nursing homes. What you see when you visit your relatives is the tip of the iceberg. I'd rather be dead. Not even a maybe on that one.

I can't think of one CNA I can remember working with that wasn't certifiable as well as useless.

They will bring you your tapioca though, 7. LOL


:laugh_sma


Way I see it, who wants to sit in the damn waiting room reading the same crappy magazines when you can skip further up the line to your next appointment??? People cling on to life like that's all there is, and I guess for the atheist I can understand why. Seriously, getting sores from laying in your own piss for 8 hours, only to get jerked around by some half educated albatross with cold hands. My wife's grandmother was in one for a few years. I said then and there, ohh hell no. You'll see my wrinkled ass wheeling my chair out into traffic. The nursing home she was in was in a really bad part of town. I thought of Bruce Willis in Die Hard. I would just make a sign that says "I hate albatrosses" and go for a stroll. Maybe some gangbanger would get the "right" message and do me a favor, right between the eyes.

[JTEXX53]

The consensus looks like that most everyone is unhappy but as long as you have a roof over your head and food on the table, no one would be willing to do anything. Which I can't blame them. It's going to an individual that has been given a terminal diagnosis, who decides he has nothing to lose. It's highly unlikely but unless it was one of the major players(President, Dictator, whatever) from the middle east countries that's our enemy and takes them out on our soil but that wouldn't change politics at home but he'd be a dead instant hero!
JT

[insider]

The War is the only thing keeping our economy on life support! You have no idea how many companies supporting the war effort are keeping people employed. Without the war, unemployment would be 35% or higher. :uhoh_smal

[madmanmccoy]

[QUOTE=Beryl]Never happen. Too many pussies, too many distractions (MTV, Survivor, Oprah, Hanna Montana, porn, etc.), too many snitches, public school brainwashing. I could go on. The fact is, kids are no longer taught the significance of the Constitution, the Founding Fathers, and the history of our nation. We are doomed to become another second-rate, has-been superpower ruled by a bunch of overpaid lawyers.[/QUOTE}

Unfortunately this is the closest answer, the kids aren't taught what it means to be an American,to have a National Identity, to have National Pride, to have Role Models from History,& that is a crime.

[drjarhead]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDDBZuheQxs

[bluak47]

[QUOTE=Beryl]Never happen. Too many pussies, too many distractions (MTV, Survivor, Oprah, Hanna Montana, porn, etc.), too many snitches, public school brainwashing. I could go on. The fact is, kids are no longer taught the significance of the Constitution, the Founding Fathers, and the history of our nation. We are doomed to become another second-rate, has-been superpower ruled by a bunch of overpaid lawyers.[/QUOTE}

Unfortunately this is the closest answer, the kids aren't taught what it means to be an American,to have a National Identity, to have National Pride, to have Role Models from History,& that is a crime.And WHO decided it was better off this way?

You can argue about how wrong Rachel Maddox is 'till the cows come home, but what have YOU LEARNED?

Until we can discuss WHO gains, and then how they set us up, it's all just
pissing upwind.

And that is why the "tin foil" whiners, (those that can't/won't contemplate the conspiracy), are in fact worse than the Bolshevics.

Divide and Conquer, stay to the midddle of the herd ...

The answer is knowledge, but go ahead and jerk-off in bitterness,
that'll change 'em.

[bluak47]

The War is the only thing keeping our economy on life support! You have no idea how many companies supporting the war effort are keeping people employed. Without the war, unemployment would be 35% or higher. :uhoh_smalExactly.

What a Christian Nation we have.

Sell outs.

[drjarhead]

Ah, blu...

So what do you propose?

[bluak47]

Doc, an armed revolt against these criminals will fail.

Smarter heads realized this, a long time ago.

We have the entire satanic code (and the dots to connect the responsible parties) right at our finger tips here ... the internet.

We have the beginnings of public involvement in the crushed economy, as well as the 'tea party'.

But until first responders, active duty folks, LEO and other prominant and clear spoken citizens choose truth over family budgets, we are living among leeches.

was 9/11 a muslim effort?

are chemtrails only in my imagination?

is the fed reserve a private criminal enterprise?

is the industrial-military complex a cancer on the body of freedom?

are congressmen complicit in treason?

is the UN the head of the snake which is actively
involved in Agenda 21?

WE have a choice to save our souls here, but most
will remain in their fatted, drunken stupor until judgment day.

[bluak47]

"an awareness", the hundreth monkey.

[drjarhead]

Doc, an armed revolt against these criminals will fail.


Well, blu, that depends on a lot of things and neither victory nor defeat are guaranteed.


I don't think we will do shit though.
I really have to agree with that.
We will watch as our nation continues to lose its way and is conquered. I doubt I'll be here to see that last part but some of you here may well be.

Your grandsons will be enslaved or killed.
Your granddaughters will bear the children of the conquering race.

You know something?
We deserve it.

[bluak47]

You know something?
We deserve it.
Most do.

The rest of us, which drank the 9/11 kool-aid hook, line and sinker,
probably more than anyone.

[drjarhead]

It's a simple plan really, divorce your spouse (in court) not before God, transfer half your assets to your kids, the other half to her along with the house. Give away what you can to your friends. Then go make yourself famous! Get some- Hooah!!!


7
It has it's logic, does it not?

[drjarhead]

We were at the tea party here locally and I brought my 85 year old grandfather. He served in WWII, survived over three dozen invasions in the South Pacific. He was pissed about all the taxation and the Socialist shit hole this country is becoming. I've never seen him that excited or angry at anything.

He was screaming at the rally. Edited to protect my grandfather.

I thought, if we had eight to ten vets a month go off the deep end- it would be a completely unpredictable good start.


7
I was really referring more to the estate planning aspect you laid out.

I agree with your overall assessment of the WWII vets though. Top notch guys.

Too bad they fought the enemy off and then came back and let the enemy within have their way, however. Not to mention how screwed up the next generaton was allowed to be. Our nation is still paying for those mistakes and may never stop paying.

[JTEXX53]

You make me consider never ever remarrying again at 57, the old Johnson isn't at attention any longer in the morning!! Guess if I really needed, there's the blue pill!
JT

[Alvin]

It's going to take a small group with a specific mission and goal in mind, for example, free a youtube speaker arrested for making anti-gov speeches, like that one guy who's name i cannot remember. Something small like that. As you may have noticed i'm from Upstate New York, back in september the state government was going to attempt to aggressively collect taxes from the Seneca Nation, I called off work that day, was going to go up with a couple friends and sit in the woods with a camcorder and our rifles and observe, a lot of planning went into that. I was 100% certain it was going to start in my back yard and i think the gov. knew that too. They called it off, i was glad and disappointed at the same time. But like i said, it will start small, but our side NEEDS to be successful in the skirmish. I just hope that when this 'small thing' happens that everybody who talks about doing something will put their money where their mouth is and join in.

[drjarhead]

It's going to take a small group with a specific mission and goal in mind, for example, free a youtube speaker arrested for making anti-gov speeches, like that one guy who's name i cannot remember.
JULY4PATRIOT

Sgt Dyer

I agree that is an excellent situation to make a point over. The point is NO MORE.

Something small like that. As you may have noticed i'm from Upstate New York, back in september the state government was going to attempt to aggressively collect taxes from the Seneca Nation, I called off work that day, was going to go up with a couple friends and sit in the woods with a camcorder and our rifles and observe, a lot of planning went into that. I was 100% certain it was going to start in my back yard and i think the gov. knew that too.
Good for you.

They called it off, i was glad and disappointed at the same time. But like i said, it will start small, but our side NEEDS to be successful in the skirmish. I just hope that when this 'small thing' happens that everybody who talks about doing something will put their money where their mouth is and join in.
Absolutely.
On both points.

1] initial success this time around is vital. VITAL

2] If and when it occurs the rest of us need to get off the fence or it really will be over for us and our nation.


Good post. I like where you are coming from.

[NH3%er]

As for me, I've learned the less said the better. When the time comes, some will be surprised at the resistance that will arise.

[drjarhead]

As for me, I've learned the less said the better. When the time comes, some will be surprised at the resistance that will arise.
Someone's got to talk about it.

Might as well be us oldtimers. :wink_smal

[madmanmccoy]

I got my "bucket list" but I figured since I'm young, most of those assholes will be long gone before I go terminal. It's a simple plan really, divorce your spouse (in court) not before God, transfer half your assets to your kids, the other half to her along with the house. Give away what you can to your friends. Then go make yourself famous! Get some- Hooah!!!


7I don't know

[drjarhead]

I feel like I'm reliving the early 90's again- waiting for another Waco or Ruby Ridge.


There is a big difference.

Bush and Klinton knew when they were over their heads, when they had overextended their reach.

The current bunch of marxists has no idea of their limitations, under the Constitution or the Law. They don't care and don't want to care. They are incredibly arrogant and in fact, despise our law and our Constitution. Both serve to limit their power and thusly hey hold both in utter disdain. What matters is only what they want, how much power they can hold, to what degree they can control others and impose their will.

While I still believe their arrogance will be their undoing, it also makes them extremely dangerous to those they lash out against.