Ejected cases are cut throught the rim....

As stated in other post, I built an older Galil kit on a new receiver. I have noted from the get-go the the bolt head has too much side-to-side play in the receivers top rails. What is interesting with this bolt, and a brande new one, is that it is much smaller than the 7.62x39 bolt head in width. The .30 caliber bolt head will fit and very little play is noted. The 556mm bolt head is a sloppy fit.
As the rifle cycles, the ejector cuts right through the rim of the fired cae leaving a "V " shaped notch in the rim. It will jamb the fired casing about 20% of the time.
I built this rifle with the tips from members here. I drilled the gas port hole to specifications, using a metric drill bit.
The recoil does not seem to be overly violent or excessive. My brass is however, being thrown about 25 feet.
What/how should I attempt to correct this problem.
would a stronger recoil spring help?

peen over the gas port ?
Thank you for your ideas.

Are you sure the "new" bolt is for a Galil? Some people use Bulgarian bolts for the spring loaded firing pin. Where is it loose? On the left bolt lug in the receiver between the upper and lower rails? How is it's diameter in the bolt carrier fit?

AK's are very hard on cases and 5.56 case rims are thin and weak. How does the chamber look? The Chinese 223 AK's have oversized gas ports. What size did you drill the gas port? You know the 5.56 Galil gas port is much smaller than the 7.62x39 gas port?

How is the headspace? How is the recoil spring? Inspect the barrel chamber. Use a different brand of ammunition. How does the extractor look? Is it the ejector in the receiver rail that is cutting the case rims? Sounds like it might be out of spec maybe.

Do you have any pics.?
Reason I ask, is that I have recently been messing around with my "ORFED" Galil (something to do !) and all the Galil Bolts I have (3) appear to fit, ---width wise all the same. (5.56)

As a point of possible interest, the 4 Romy AK bolts I had on the bench(7.62x 39) also fitted snug as the Galil bolts in the same receiver.

Your eject distance is not out of line, but as stated, it could be the ejector itself is not to spec.
Failing all else, start shaving the forward edge of the ejector in small amounts, so that it cannot cut right through the rim. It is normal though for rims to be indented with this rifle. You tend not to see it on steel cases so much, if at all.

Here is a photo of what the ejector is doing to the fire casing
As for what bolt is what in this rifle, both the original, serial numbered bolt to the rifles kit, and a brand new IMI .556 bolt are a very sloppy fit in the receiver. I will post photos of just how much later on.
The gas port hole is the diameter that was recommended here in this forum under " Build it yourself"
As I wrote above, any, no matter who made it, 7.62x39mm bolt is much tighter and has very little side-to-side play as it travels down the top rails.
Both .556 bolts can be moved down the receiver,towards the breech from the left to right side of the receiver as it passes over/through the ejector.you can wiggle the bolt on the ejector and open/close the gap in the bolt body as it rides past the ejector. Only the very edge of the tip is striking the rim of the fired casing. You can clearly see that in the fired casings.
I'm wondering if Ohio Ordnance made one receiver for two calibers or mismarked my receiver for .556 and it is really a 7.62mm

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c374/Rapidrob/galilcase3.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c374/Rapidrob/GalilIMIbolt.jpg

I'm not sure that "new" bolts have serial numbers. What size is the gas port? The 5.56 Galil gas port is different from the 7.62x39 AK gas port.

I've not seen serial nos. on bolts. On the AK kits, (Romy at least) You see nos. but not a Galil to my knowledge.

"Ohio Ordnance" ?---Do you mean Ohio Rapid Fire ?,----It's the Galil, right ?

Looks like your ejector is out of spec. If the gun is otherwise functioning, call the Receiver manufacturer and see what options are available to you.

Yea, Ohio Rapid fire made the receiver. The serial number is electro-penciled to what remained of the original receiver.

How about a good clear closeup of your ejector. Many of the ORF receivers had the ejectors cut too short, so they were welded up and recut to make them longer.
Looks to me like that might be your problem.

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/7488/1001168smallqv5.jpg

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/3545/1001094mediumsmallkl6.jpg

Is this the "new" bolt you used?

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=133053523

Botach?

.556?

Yes it is the type bolt I purchased. I cant wait to see your response.

It does look like the ejector might be short and maybe sharp. The bolt may not be an issue.

Having a too short ejector makes all the sence in the world. Would someone please measure your ejector and let me know the measurement? Perhaps I can get Ohio Rapid Fire to repair the receiver. I have emailed them they will not respond.

Here are a couple of pics of an original Galil ejector and a rivet-on ejector.

Rivet-on ejector

http://i16.tinypic.com/2u44j0m.jpg

Original Galil next to rivet-on ejector.

http://i18.tinypic.com/403eerl.jpg

I just measured an IMI receiver and the ejector is right at .500 (1/2 inch) from the inside wall of the receiver, measuring from on top of the ejector.

If that is your problem, good luck getting ORF to fix it................... :p

If you have some measuring calibers, measure from outside left side of the receiver to the end of the ejector.

If you have some measuring calibers, measure from outside left side of the receiver to the end of the ejector.

Is that message for Rapidrob or me ? I just scaled it with a 6 in. flex scale.

Measured the IMI, and a Norinco milled receiver in 7.62x39 with calipers like you suggest and the Galil checks .587 to outside wall and the Norinco checks .537.

I wanted to a measuring point that could be used on the ORF receiver. I don't have a Galil handy. The stamped 223 Saiga ejector measures 0.591" and the stamped Romanian in 5.45 measures 0.580" and K-var says the Romanian 5.56 and 5.45 are the same. I wasn't sure how it would meaure on a milled Galil but it's usually a good reference point from outside. That milled Norinco 7.62x39 sounds shorter than most 7.62 ejectors. Some are 0.550", most are 0.560" and the 7.62x39 Saiga is 0.570".

From the outside wall to Ejector tip , my Orfed "Galil" is .569".

I'm on the road now, but I was able to find a gun shop that had a Century build that has an ejector that measures .480 from the inside rail to the tip of the ejector. I'll measure mine when I get home. Thank you for the info guys.