March on DC in July..time to get away from the computer and speak up!

Members of this blog are currently putting together a march on DC in July, how many of you all are in with us?



http://citizensfortheusconstitution.blogspot.com/

Deja Vu.

ok so there are gonna be 2 of you....

ok so there are gonna be 2 of you....


thats an encouraging attitude. We need more gun owners just like you....oh yeah, thats the problem...we do. Most of them are hunters and hate those of us who own those "Assault weapons". If this movement doesnt get traction it will be because of individuals like yourself. "oh it wont do any good to try and get our elected officials attention, they never pay any attention to us anyway". "I'll just renew my membership to the NRA, go have a beer and hope for the best." That's a lame attitude. Instead of sitting around waiting for someone else to do someone for you, why do you get up and take some initiative".

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."

- Edmund Burke
Irish orator, philosopher, & politician (1729 - 1797)

Get it together!
Jeff

Get it together!
Jeff


jeff,

sign up to follow the blog that i attached to this thread. this will only work if responsible individuals get involved. several of us will be meeting at the National Gun Day gun show in Louisville, KY in March to coordinate more details. these marches seem to work pretty well for all those flaming socialist, no reason why we cant get attention. spread the word.

thats an encouraging attitude. We need more gun owners just like you....oh yeah, thats the problem...we do. Most of them are hunters and hate those of us who own those "Assault weapons". If this movement doesnt get traction it will be because of individuals like yourself. "oh it wont do any good to try and get our elected officials attention, they never pay any attention to us anyway". "I'll just renew my membership to the NRA, go have a beer and hope for the best." That's a lame attitude. Instead of sitting around waiting for someone else to do someone for you, why do you get up and take some initiative".

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."

- Edmund Burke
Irish orator, philosopher, & politician (1729 - 1797)
Swede, you might want to try a board search first before questioning anyone`s dedication. We`ve been down this road before just recently & it died, same as the 2AM site that tried to carry it on. Unless we get 100,000+, IMO we do more harm than good. Much less than that will make a weak impact. Not saying it`s not possible, but most people will sadly wait until a march is too late. Talk has turned to a wait/prepare mentality. - http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44890&highlight=march- http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45014&highlight=march

Fortis,

So in your opinion why is it that so many gun owners have little energy or interest in doing something like this? Its amazing how gays/lesbians and minorities can march in the millions without any effort so they can squeeze more money out of the working class, but when it comes to we gun owners
"well it just wont work because _____________ (fill in the blank). It seems that a majority of these guys like to sit on their ass behind their computer with a cold beer and and talk endlessly about "which is the best AK clone". While around the country their gun rights ( in which they havent tried to protect) are eroding away. These are the same gun show cammo clad wearing Rambo's that like to talk a big game about how "No ones gunna take my guns" But I can ASSURE you that when the AWB comes back they will all whine like little girls that "It just wudnt right but they't nuthng we can do bout it"...as they sit in the comfort of their home. Not saying that all are like this, but most of them are. If those that read this get pissed, then they better do a self check and ask themselves why. Like I said, its amazing how a bunch of limp wristed, pillow biters can assemble in DC and parade around with their double decaf, chocolate latte mochas with candy sprinkles and get all the rights they want but many gun owners are too lazy to get out of their chair except to go get another "Coor's" out of the fridge. It boggles the mind that these people have more intestinal fortitude. I would speculate that many gun owners are too busy with watching their football games, or still bragging about that 8 pointer they got last deer season to put any time and effort into doing something much more important.
The founding fathers of this nation put their lives and their livelyhoods on the line to start this nation, and many of them lost all to give us what we have today. I find it appalling that many today will stand by and let others make the effort to take back what they fought for. This reminds me of the following quote:

After the Constitution was drafted, a women on the street asked Benjamin Franklin "Sir, do we have Republic or do we have a Monarchy?" In which he replied; Madam, you have a Republic, but only if you can keep it".....

....food for thought...

Fortis,

So in your opinion why is it that so many gun owners have little energy or interest in doing something like this? Its amazing how gays/lesbians and minorities can march in the millions without any effort so they can squeeze more money out of the working class, but when it comes to we gun owners
"well it just wont work because _____________ (fill in the blank). It seems that a majority of these guys like to sit on their ass behind their computer with a cold beer and and talk endlessly about "which is the best AK clone". While around the country their gun rights ( in which they havent tried to protect) are eroding away. These are the same gun show cammo clad wearing Rambo's that like to talk a big game about how "No ones gunna take my guns" But I can ASSURE you that when the AWB comes back they will all whine like little girls that "It just wudnt right but they't nuthng we can do bout it"...as they sit in the comfort of their home. Not saying that all are like this, but most of them are. If those that read this get pissed, then they better do a self check and ask themselves why. Like I said, its amazing how a bunch of limp wristed, pillow biters can assemble in DC and parade around with their double decaf, chocolate latte mochas with candy sprinkles and get all the rights they want but many gun owners are too lazy to get out of their chair except to go get another "Coor's" out of the fridge. It boggles the mind that these people have more intestinal fortitude. I would speculate that many gun owners are too busy with watching their football games, or still bragging about that 8 pointer they got last deer season to put any time and effort into doing something much more important.
The founding fathers of this nation put their lives and their livelyhoods on the line to start this nation, and many of them lost all to give us what we have today. I find it appalling that many today will stand by and let others make the effort to take back what they fought for. This reminds me of the following quote:

After the Constitution was drafted, a women on the street asked Benjamin Franklin "Sir, do we have Republic or do we have a Monarchy?" In which he replied; Madam, you have a Republic, but only if you can keep it".....

....food for thought...
Believe me, you`re preaching to the choir & this has all been argued on this site long before you got here. I had initially signed on to the D.C. march on our forumn, but w/ all the infighting & lack of interest it died out. On further thought I really don`t think it would be the best use of our efforts. Why?- You can bet there will be an anti-gun media there waiting for some hothead from our side to take a swing at one of the many anti-gunners that will be there trying to start a confrontation. Not saying I would blame them but it would be a death nail to the whole thing. No matter what we do to try & show a unified force in support of the 2nd, the MSM will use it against us to portray us as a bunch of stereo-typical gun nuts, further enforcing their opinion that guns need to be controlled. [INDENT]I`ve contacted GOA w/ another idea. That would be to compose a letter, more of a re-declaration of our right to keep & bear arms, & send it to D.C. with as many signatures as possible(1,000,000+ hopefully). GOA replied w/ a degree of interest, but I`ve yet to hear back on a decision. In my mind it would basically state that any further infringements would not be tolerated or obeyed, as they are in violation of the Bill of Rights. The possibility of armed opposition would have to be made clear if enforcement of such new laws was attempted. The one thing to be sure of, is that in signing that letter, whoever it may be, better be ready to stand firm for whatever happens. I really think that this is the point we`ve come to, that our government will not back down until they realize the real possibility of violent opposition, brought about by their own actions. IMO it would be best to have GOA(mabye even NRA-but I doubt it) take the lead on this, though I`m not too hopeful that any gun rights organization would put themselves at such risk, though I hope to be surprised. This way we by-pass the media & our voice is heard. In the meantime, do what`s neccessary to ready & inform yourself in every way you can.

As I said before in the many other threads concerning this subject.

I'm in, fellow Swede.

As I said before in the many other threads concerning this subject.

I'm in, fellow Swede.


Thanks Black Wolf!

Believe me, you`re preaching to the choir & this has all been argued on this site long before you got here. I had initially signed on to the D.C. march on our forumn, but w/ all the infighting & lack of interest it died out. On further thought I really don`t think it would be the best use of our efforts. Why?- You can bet there will be an anti-gun media there waiting for the first idiot from our side to take a swing at one of the many anti-gunners that will be there trying to start a confrontation. Not saying I would blame them but it would be a death nail to the whole thing. No matter what we do to try & show a unified force in support of the 2nd, the MSM will use it against us to portray us as a bunch of sterio-typical gun nuts, further enforcing their opinion that guns need to be controlled. [INDENT]I`ve contacted GOA w/ another idea. That would be to compose a letter, more of a re-declaration of our right to keep & bear arms, & send it to D.C. with as many signatures as possible(1,000,000+ hopefully). GOA replied w/ a degree of interest, but I`ve yet to hear back on a decision. In my mind it would basically state that any further infringements would not be tolerated or obeyed, as they are in violation of the Bill of Rights. The possibility of armed opposition would have to be made clear if enforcement of such new laws was attempted. The one thing to be sure of, is that in signing that letter, whoever it may be, better be ready to stand firm for whatever happens. I really think that this is the point we`ve come to, that our government will not back down until they realize the real possibility of violent opposition, brought about by their own actions. IMO it would be best to have GOA(mabye even NRA-but I doubt it) take the lead on this, though I`m not too hopeful that any gun rights organization would put themselves at such risk, though I hope to be surprised. This way we by-pass the media & our voice is heard. In the meantime, do what`s neccessary to ready & inform yourself in every way you can.



I've heard that the GOA isnt the most reliable "Proponent" as far a 2A rights. Have you considered sending the letter to the JPFO? I have proposed the idea to the group on Gunboards that we get VFW's, American Legions and local churches (private individual church members), etc. involved. I googled conservative websites and have found that there are many conservative celebrities in Hollywood. Many more than I ever thought existed. Lets contact these individuals in attempts to see who would be willing to lend their voice.
If this letter is drafted up and distributed to the likes of these individuals and organizations so that they could in turn mail them to their represenatives, that might have some sort of impact. These so called represenatives need to understand that there is dessension in the ranks. As stated in the attached blog, this movement is more than just about the 2A, it is about the Constitution and the Bill of Rights as a whole. The goal is to hopefully gather the interest of many more individuals, not just gun owners. The average citizen must understand that this includes everyone who doesnt want to see this country continue it's downward slide into Socialism.
If one approach stalls, then we find another. We can't just give up because this is just what the socialist here in this country are hoping for.

I've heard that the GOA isnt the most reliable "Proponent" as far a 2A rights. Have you considered sending the letter to the JPFO? I have proposed the idea to the group on Gunboards that we get VFW's, American Legions and local churches (private individual church members), etc. involved. I googled conservative websites and have found that there are many conservative celebrities in Hollywood. Many more than I ever thought existed. Lets contact these individuals in attempts to see who would be willing to lend their voice.
If this letter is drafted up and distributed to the likes of these individuals and organizations so that they could in turn mail them to their represenatives, that might have some sort of impact. These so called represenatives need to understand that there is dessension in the ranks. As stated in the attached blog, this movement is more than just about the 2A, it is about the Constitution and the Bill of Rights as a whole. The goal is to hopefully gather the interest of many more individuals, not just gun owners. The average citizen must understand that this includes everyone who doesnt want to see this country continue it's downward slide into Socialism.
If one approach stalls, then we find another. We can't just give up because this is just what the socialist here in this country are hoping for.
I can`t say I`ve heard anything negative agout GOA. I`ve been a member for a few years after tiring of the NRA`s willingness to compromise. They have fought many battles that others have let pass. I`ve heard well of the jPFo however & will be most likely joining soon. I did send them my thoughts on the letter idea & hope to hear back. I don`t fault anyone for wanting to do something, ANYTHING to stop this onslaught by the socialists, but IMHO a march puts us in a vulnerable position. We will be surrounded by not just people who hate what we stand for, but also a media that is all too eager to portray us in a negative way. We will be at a disadvantage by playing on their turf. Believe me, I would probably be one of those hotheads that starts swinging when they try to spew their filth, & this is what the media wants. In line w/ your idea, I think that we, among other things, should beat them at their own game by putting out a privately funded(w/ our help through GOA or jPFo) televised(or radio) statement stating our cause & purpose. A respected celebrity as our statesman would be a great help, though they would have to have balls of steel to w/stand the backlash(Selleck, Nugent?). There are a large number of people who are just plain ignorant about this issue. Enough can be turned I think to at least begin to tip the scales. Let them have their pie throwing tantrums, we are better than them & the general public needs to see it.[INDENT]I agree that this is about more than just the 2nd, & people need to let the few politicians who give a shit know about it. Even so, those few are pretty powerless.

Just received this response from jPFo. Looks like the march idea may be gaining steam, mabye this time it`ll get more support. If it is highly organized & made clear to marchers that it will be done w/ class, then I`d be willing to reconsider adding my name to the list. The media needs to be used to our favor, rather than against us which you know they`ll try. Not sure how that`d be done. They were receptive to the letter idea but basically no for now. Here`s their response -

"Hope you will join JPFO. Your support like that of others is what can
help the site survive.

Your idea has merit - however there are ''hatching'' plans from a few
sources considering broadly similar. Hang tight for now - much needs
done in near future and while sometimes things seem rather quiescent,
behind the scenes there are moves to solidly defend the BOR by all
peaceful means possible ... it is or should be inviolate - the
foundation of America. As such it has to be preserved and the 2A above all.

Len Savage is planning a massive DC march in the spring I heard today -
the new site for it is not running yet but - keep watch on the various
sites that are there on the web, to try and protect our freedoms, and
news will filter out.

Stay with us - and GOA too among others ... there is much to be done.
We have to try and make basic Constitutional logic beat the proponents
of control - for control's sake.

Best regards, Chris

YOU want the truth?????????????? It's because so many are stupid fat losers, IDIOTS of the highest degree, American low-life white trash useless scum.
They won't get off thier ass till it's too late and then it'll be too late.

OH and they'll fight for thier Rights they say, yea right. Pathetic Losers.

Enemies of mine.

Scott




Fortis,

So in your opinion why is it that so many gun owners have little energy or interest in doing something like this? Its amazing how gays/lesbians and minorities can march in the millions without any effort so they can squeeze more money out of the working class, but when it comes to we gun owners
"well it just wont work because _____________ (fill in the blank). It seems that a majority of these guys like to sit on their ass behind their computer with a cold beer and and talk endlessly about "which is the best AK clone". While around the country their gun rights ( in which they havent tried to protect) are eroding away. These are the same gun show cammo clad wearing Rambo's that like to talk a big game about how "No ones gunna take my guns" But I can ASSURE you that when the AWB comes back they will all whine like little girls that "It just wudnt right but they't nuthng we can do bout it"...as they sit in the comfort of their home. Not saying that all are like this, but most of them are. If those that read this get pissed, then they better do a self check and ask themselves why. Like I said, its amazing how a bunch of limp wristed, pillow biters can assemble in DC and parade around with their double decaf, chocolate latte mochas with candy sprinkles and get all the rights they want but many gun owners are too lazy to get out of their chair except to go get another "Coor's" out of the fridge. It boggles the mind that these people have more intestinal fortitude. I would speculate that many gun owners are too busy with watching their football games, or still bragging about that 8 pointer they got last deer season to put any time and effort into doing something much more important.
The founding fathers of this nation put their lives and their livelyhoods on the line to start this nation, and many of them lost all to give us what we have today. I find it appalling that many today will stand by and let others make the effort to take back what they fought for. This reminds me of the following quote:

After the Constitution was drafted, a women on the street asked Benjamin Franklin "Sir, do we have Republic or do we have a Monarchy?" In which he replied; Madam, you have a Republic, but only if you can keep it".....

....food for thought...

Actually I have a higher regard for my enemy then most of you who say you support our constitution but don't.

Scott

I'm in if it works out.

Bump

Gents I'm here to tell you all that I'm dead serious about this issue. I've literally dedicated a quarter of a century of my life as a sworn defender of the U.S. Constitution against ALL enemies foreign and domestic. Each time I took that oath it wasnt to garauntee myself another steady paycheck for a few more years, it was my way of making a public profession to all who witnessed it that I was in it life or death and the long haul.

COME ON FOLKS!!!.....enough with the negativity, we need everyone on board with this cause!!!!!!.......Lets speak with a LOUD voice!!!!!

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Ok, here we go again, I`m in. Maybe this time all the different sites on this can combine. Sounds like jPFo may get involved. The damn media hates us anyway, might as well go for it.

Members of this blog are currently putting together a march on DC in July, how many of you all are in with us?



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If you're willing to fight and die for the cause, I'm in too. I just won't commit myself or my resources to yet another "give peace a chance" movement of compromise and inevitable failure.

The Constitution is already on our side. The government (at every level) has already demonstrated either their direct subversion of the Constitution, and/or support for such subversion and insodoing, have already passed the point of no return... No forgiveness.

We must not validate their supposed "power" with petitions and emails begging for our birthright like some 12th century English peasants.

They won't "do the right thing" until they are forced to and an unyielding mass of citizenry is more formidable than angry letters from a handful of AARP members.

We must demand uncompromising conformity to our Constitution (in its original form), including the immediate abolition of all unconstitutional laws (to be determined by a panel of Constitutionalist scholars, not the same old appointees who have been dis-interpreting the document all along) and all unconstitutional agencies, bureaus and organizations.



And Swede, you will find that cowardice rules the sheep everywhere. The AK-Files is no exception, though we do boast a few exceptional members.

If you're willing to fight and die for the cause, I'm in too. I just won't commit myself or my resources to yet another "give peace a chance" movement of compromise and inevitable failure.

The Constitution is already on our side. The government (at every level) has already demonstrated either their direct subversion of the Constitution, and/or support for such subversion and insodoing, have already passed the point of no return... No forgiveness.

We must not validate their supposed "power" with petitions and emails begging for our birthright like some 12th century English peasants.

They won't "do the right thing" until they are forced to and an unyielding mass of citizenry is more formidable than angry letters from a handful of AARP members.

We must demand uncompromising conformity to our Constitution (in its original form), including the immediate abolition of all unconstitutional laws (to be determined by a panel of Constitutionalist scholars, not the same old appointees who have been dis-interpreting the document all along) and all unconstitutional agencies, bureaus and organizations.



And Swede, you will find that cowardice rules the sheep everywhere. The AK-Files is no exception, though we do boast a few exceptional members.
I agree Illuminos, but just how is that to be accomplished? If we couldn`t even get 50 people from this site to sign on, the other 20k+ sure as heck won`t sign on for a movement of the next level, not to mention the general gun owning public. It seems to me if JPFO would get involved to help get the word out & get it moving it`d be worth another try. I`m willing to give it another shot, & in the end whether it happens or not I can at least say I tried. If it does happen & makes no difference, then whatever happens from then on will not only be justifiable but called for. I will join the march if it calls for, as you said, a restoration of Constitutional rights & not just a halt to attacks against it.

I agree Illuminos, but just how is that to be accomplished? If we couldn`t even get 50 people from this site to sign on, the other 20k+ sure as heck won`t sign on for a movement of the next level. It seems to me if JFPO would get involved to help get the word out & get it moving it`d be worth another try. I`m willing to give it another shot, & in the end whether it happens or not I can at least say I tried. If it does happen & makes no difference, then whatever happens from then on will not only be justifiable but called for. I will join the march if it calls for, as you said, a restoration of Constitutional rights & not just a halt to attacks against it. To be honest, the JPFO endorsement put me over the top, but the CFTUSC mission statement fits my agenda, almost to a tee.

I don't expect the numbers to increase enough because people are scared little cnuts who need their asses wiped by their socialist guardians. Men of conviction are an endangered species and we will have to get the job done, like David did with Goliath (if you believe the story).

It will fall on us and we will face overwhelming adversity, but hey... If the men of 1776 can do it, so can we.

And btw, the first American Revolution was supported, fought and won by a minority of the People. 30% if my sources are accurate. It wasn't until the end that the sheeple got on board, screaming about liberty and the bloodshed that it cost to secure it... You know, when their "patriotism" cost them nothing.

http://2ndamendmentmarch2009.lefora.com/forum/



heres a link, i dont think this will take off, most gun owners have jobs, and will be working, all the other marchs are full of people who are looking for a handout, not to worry, they cant win.

Here we go again!